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Arsenic_Touch
09-06-2013, 04:05 PM
I asked on the live stream, they gave an answer to a few of my questions.

Question: What is going on with the cold fire plasma assault rifle we saw during the E3 demo?

Answer: The reason it was left out of DLC 1 was because it looked cool but it didn't have any unique mechanics to it. However they said they will be adding it with the DLC 2 (which we do not know when that will be happening)

Question: What is going on with the volge LMG drops?
Answer: They claimed they're in game, just really rare. We still haven't seen any evidence of this.

Question: Why were volge emergency drops nerfed?
Answer: They weren't supposed to be and they have people going through trying to find out what's wrong, evidently some one got a legendary drop off a volge elite and that's not supposed to happen. So I have a feeling that the non existent volge lmgs will fall under this bug.

Question: What about those that purchased the orange charge blade for 500k scrip?
Answer: They are doing something to make it fair for players affected.
(Update: They're refunding the difference according to the sticky)

These are the only ones I paid attention to because I'm playing Elder Scrolls Online.

Some other things we learned.

Pumped shotgun glitch will be fixed.
The device to call down arkfalls is part of a quest line.

JxSiN
09-06-2013, 04:07 PM
Double post?

I added a few other things to the other post but will add it here since this one will probably last a bit longer

They also said something about some form of payback to the people who purchased the orange sword at the high cost but didn't specify as to what

They also said they are looking into the weapon rolls and stuff that will be affected by the upcoming grenade change

Arsenic_Touch
09-06-2013, 04:10 PM
Lol, didn't even realize it double posted. Sorry about that.

Notturno
09-06-2013, 04:15 PM
Question: What is going on with the volge LMG drops?
Answer: They claimed they're in game, just really rare. We still haven't seen any evidence of this.

This is going to be exactly like the "orange world drops" that were insisted upon by a former community manager. If there's no proof from anyone, then it doesn't exist. In a week's time, one should have dropped somewhere by now. I'm calling this as incorrect information again, Volge LMGs beyond the quest-given green do not exist as drops.

I'm very disappointed I did not get to watch the stream, since I got my information from this tweet (https://twitter.com/DefianceGame/status/376044427971538944). Apparently they started an hour earlier than what was announced there. Depressing, as I was hoping to get at least one PvP-related question answered.

Maitreakow
09-06-2013, 04:20 PM
Hope they are quicker off the ball then they were for the fiasco Notturno is alluding to...

dahanese
09-06-2013, 04:58 PM
This is going to be exactly like the "orange world drops" that were insisted upon by a former community manager. If there's no proof from anyone, then it doesn't exist. In a week's time, one should have dropped somewhere by now. I'm calling this as incorrect information again, Volge LMGs beyond the quest-given green do not exist as drops.

I'm very disappointed I did not get to watch the stream, since I got my information from this tweet (https://twitter.com/DefianceGame/status/376044427971538944). Apparently they started an hour earlier than what was announced there. Depressing, as I was hoping to get at least one PvP-related question answered.

Sorry about that - I wrote the tweet and messed it up.

Highlighting is borked on Twitch but when it's up, we'll make the highlight and post here.

Also: if we have incorrect info, we'll correct it. Neither Trick nor I are going to lie to you because we don't want to say "yeah, you are right, we are wrong." That's silly.

OverloadUT
09-06-2013, 05:04 PM
If you'd like to watch a replay of the livestream in which Trick answers a ton of questions, you can do so here:
http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/457360595

Skip to 1:15:00, which is when Trick gets on for the Defiance segment.

dahanese
09-06-2013, 05:07 PM
If you'd like to watch a replay of the livestream in which Trick answers a ton of questions, you can do so here:
http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/457360595

Skip to 1:15:00, which is when Trick gets on for the Defiance segment.

Look at you one-upping me. :P

I highly recommend this. Paraphrasing can be the pits - but transcribing takes forever!

Iceberg
09-06-2013, 05:19 PM
Any info on Chat system???

JxSiN
09-06-2013, 05:23 PM
Any info on Chat system???

I vaguely remember something about the chat but I was also having to text some family members because of a family emergency (wife's side) so I have to relisten to the entire stream to get all the info. I also heard something about reimbursing those that bought the sword at a higher price (but didn't hear what or exactly when) but I think they said something about during a reset

Arsenic_Touch
09-06-2013, 05:30 PM
They said they know the chat is bad and they intend to fix it. What that actually means, who knows.

JxSiN
09-06-2013, 05:32 PM
I vaguely remember something about the chat but I was also having to text some family members because of a family emergency (wife's side) so I have to relisten to the entire stream to get all the info. I also heard something about reimbursing those that bought the sword at a higher price (but didn't hear what or exactly when) but I think they said something about during a reset

Never mind, just saw the sticky that said earlier next week

Iceberg
09-06-2013, 05:32 PM
They said they know the chat is bad and they intend to fix it. What that actually means, who knows.

Fix for them is making it worse. :(

TigrisMorte
09-06-2013, 05:32 PM
I believe that Trick said the new chat shall be an etch-a-sketch style mini-game.

Azubaz
09-06-2013, 05:32 PM
Question: What is going on with the volge LMG drops?
Answer: They claimed they're in game, just really rare. We still haven't seen any evidence of this.


This is "Legendaries drops from mobs" and "all synergy mods come from synergy mod caches (before fix)" all over again.



Also: if we have incorrect info, we'll correct it. Neither Trick nor I are going to lie to you because we don't want to say "yeah, you are right, we are wrong." That's silly.

Silly yes, but on the past lies I don't recall anyone admitting they were wrong (Eventually it came out that only 'lockbox drops' can contain legendary, but no reference to the past statement). So you will lie to us then just not say anything at all? Then fix it and not admit anything was wrong in the first place?

Market
09-06-2013, 05:49 PM
If you'd like to watch a replay of the livestream in which Trick answers a ton of questions, you can do so here:
http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/457360595

Skip to 1:15:00, which is when Trick gets on for the Defiance segment.

This link doesn't seem to be working. Not sure if it's on my side or not.

nateD
09-06-2013, 05:59 PM
You can add that pump-shotguns reloading will be repaired (thanks to all the gods that we have created).

Have long waited for confirmation.

Spiltmilk
09-06-2013, 06:08 PM
This link doesn't seem to be working. Not sure if it's on my side or not.

Doesn't work for me as well.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5084/623t.png
This is with Google Chrome

Thanks for this thread, I was curious about a few of those questions too.

Iceberg
09-06-2013, 06:10 PM
The page isn't redirecting properly
Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete

This is the message I got when clicking that link.

Gilgamesh83
09-06-2013, 06:55 PM
The page isn't redirecting properly
Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete

This is the message I got when clicking that link.

Same here on Chrome - page detects a redirect loop and will not render anything but the error message.

Bonehead
09-06-2013, 07:02 PM
I believe that Trick said the new chat shall be an etch-a-sketch style mini-game.

Nice!............

Bonehead
09-06-2013, 07:05 PM
You can add that pump-shotguns reloading will be repaired (thanks to all the gods that we have created).

Have long waited for confirmation.


If I hold right mouse I can reload one and fire when my pump shotty goes dry.

nateD
09-06-2013, 07:15 PM
If I hold right mouse I can reload one and fire when my pump shotty goes dry.

Yeah, same as rolling... or a melee attack.
That does not change anything, because it's still broken. Well, unless you consider it as a fix.

A s0t
09-06-2013, 09:20 PM
Doesn't work for me as well.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5084/623t.png
This is with Google Chrome

Thanks for this thread, I was curious about a few of those questions too.

still not working 12:20 am east coast time

OverloadUT
09-06-2013, 09:42 PM
Yep, looks like Twitch is borked at the moment. Unfortunately nothing we can do about it. Hopefully they get it resolved overnight. Worst case scenario we do save a local copy of the stream to our livestream computer and could upload it to YouTube on Monday if the problem persists. Sorry about that guys.

MacDeath
09-06-2013, 11:03 PM
Yep, looks like Twitch is borked at the moment. Unfortunately nothing we can do about it. Hopefully they get it resolved overnight. Worst case scenario we do save a local copy of the stream to our livestream computer and could upload it to YouTube on Monday if the problem persists. Sorry about that guys.
Greg, please don't wait til Monday to fix this.

pooch83
09-07-2013, 12:03 AM
If you'd like to watch a replay of the livestream in which Trick answers a ton of questions, you can do so here:
http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/457360595

Skip to 1:15:00, which is when Trick gets on for the Defiance segment.
Greg i would love to watch it, since i missed it cuz i worked. but your link is not working. and liz please answer my pm when ya get a chance.

pooch83
09-07-2013, 12:05 AM
I vaguely remember something about the chat but I was also having to text some family members because of a family emergency (wife's side) so I have to relisten to the entire stream to get all the info. I also heard something about reimbursing those that bought the sword at a higher price (but didn't hear what or exactly when) but I think they said something about during a reset

i hope whatever is going on (on wifes side) is ok. i have been down that road and it sucks. so best wishes to ya brother.

pooch83
09-07-2013, 12:11 AM
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JxSiN
09-07-2013, 12:21 AM
i hope whatever is going on (on wifes side) is ok. i have been down that road and it sucks. so best wishes to ya brother.

I appreciate the wishes. After I posted that I got the call that her grandmother had passed and she is taking it really hard. My daughter as well since this is the first time she has had to experience losing a loved one. :(

MacDeath
09-07-2013, 01:51 AM
Greg i would love to watch it, since i missed it cuz i worked. but your link is not working. and liz please answer my pm when ya get a chance.
It was after midnight in California (where she lives) on a Friday night when you posted this. Don't expect an answer before Monday. She deserves time off too.

Greezy
09-07-2013, 03:14 AM
It was after midnight in California (where she lives) on a Friday night when you posted this. Don't expect an answer before Monday. She deserves time off too.


No she doesn't. None of them do. EVER! :)

Hellthrive
09-07-2013, 04:48 AM
I asked on the live stream, they gave an answer to a few of my questions.

Question: What is going on with the volge LMG drops?
Answer: They claimed they're in game, just really rare. We still haven't seen any evidence of this.


I had no idea that those were so rare i found mine within 1 hour after i started playing again this week to check out the dlc.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6666/jcqs.th.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/jcqs.jpg/)
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2776/0ekm.th.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/0ekm.jpg/)
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7243/03i8.th.jpg (http://img600.imageshack.us/i/03i8.jpg/)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6483/r4pg.th.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/r4pg.jpg/)
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4268/nssl.th.jpg (http://img513.imageshack.us/i/nssl.jpg/)
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1257/wojk.th.jpg (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/wojk.jpg/)
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6033/0jhp.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/0jhp.jpg/)

nateD
09-07-2013, 05:22 AM
I had no idea that those were so rare i found mine within 1 hour after i started playing again this week to check out the dlc.
(...)


This particular gun is a reward from the quest (and it's always green then). Arsenic_Touch was referring to the looting VLMG / reward for a siege

HELL MAMA
09-07-2013, 05:58 AM
If you'd like to watch a replay of the livestream in which Trick answers a ton of questions, you can do so here:
http://www.twitch.tv/trionworlds/b/457360595

Skip to 1:15:00, which is when Trick gets on for the Defiance segment. i cant get this link to work. anyone else having trouble with this?

TravelerX1
09-07-2013, 06:21 AM
Yep, looks like Twitch is borked at the moment. Unfortunately nothing we can do about it. Hopefully they get it resolved overnight. Worst case scenario we do save a local copy of the stream to our livestream computer and could upload it to YouTube on Monday if the problem persists. Sorry about that guys.

Trion buy out Twitch?

Spiltmilk
09-07-2013, 06:28 AM
This particular gun is a reward from the quest (and it's always green then). Arsenic_Touch was referring to the looting VLMG / reward for a siege

I guess we can't blame the newcomers, we been casually referring them as Volge LMGs lately, I just realized the confusion.

But this is pretty funny, every time someone posts a picture it is not the one we are seeking which is a blue, purple, or an orange Volge Battle Rifle MK... which leads us to think, there may be a problem with the loot table. Possibly.

Zootharuu
09-07-2013, 07:59 AM
I'm sorry for your loss. I have know clue what I'm going to do when my daughter loses her grandparents.

KashiDoll
09-07-2013, 07:59 AM
This link doesn't seem to be working. Not sure if it's on my side or not.

It's not working for me either. Keeps giving me a redirect loop error or something. :confused:

Been trying to get it to work for 10-15 mins now.

*ETA* I should probably read the rest of a thread(which I normally do) before replying...lol

N3gativeCr33p
09-07-2013, 08:01 AM
I asked on the live stream, they gave an answer to a few of my questions.

You're welcome. Apparently, they got tired of seeing me type: "Don't ignore Arsenic's questions" in the Twitch chat after a few times. ;)



I had no idea that those were so rare i found mine within 1 hour after i started playing again this week to check out the dlc.

That's not the one of rare Volge rifles that's being debated, homie. Nice pictures, though.

ErikR68
09-07-2013, 08:59 AM
The link is now working! ;)

pooch83
09-07-2013, 09:03 AM
It was after midnight in California (where she lives) on a Friday night when you posted this. Don't expect an answer before Monday. She deserves time off too.

im well aware of the time difference from west to east cost, thanks for telling me. in my defense i did say "when you get a chance". so that doesnt mean right that moment lol.

pooch83
09-07-2013, 09:08 AM
I appreciate the wishes. After I posted that I got the call that her grandmother had passed and she is taking it really hard. My daughter as well since this is the first time she has had to experience losing a loved one. :(

man that f**king sucks, im so sorry to hear that. im not religious, but your family are in my thoughts. i hope she can eventually pull past this. if my wife lost her grandmother, she would be destroyed.

Maitreakow
09-07-2013, 09:13 AM
I appreciate the wishes. After I posted that I got the call that her grandmother had passed and she is taking it really hard. My daughter as well since this is the first time she has had to experience losing a loved one. :(

Sorry to hear about your family's loss SiN.

Sanguinesun
09-07-2013, 09:25 AM
I appreciate the wishes. After I posted that I got the call that her grandmother had passed and she is taking it really hard. My daughter as well since this is the first time she has had to experience losing a loved one. :(

Sorry to hear that JxSiN. My thoughts go out to you and your family.

Maitreakow
09-07-2013, 10:01 AM
Watching the Twitch now, can't believe Overload didn't know about Decoy's swapping ability. LOL, it's not only players then...

Cavadus
09-07-2013, 10:27 AM
...can't believe Overload didn't know about Decoy's swapping ability.

They really put the "less" in "hapless," don't they?

I was surprised to hear Trick talk about Scott (RedAvocado). Apparently he's still with the project.

MacDeath
09-07-2013, 11:00 AM
It's at about 1:28 where Trick says that HE will be providing us with a State of the Game address. That's about as close as he can come to telling us he's the guy in charge these days. He also mentioned about meeting with the team in Redwood Shores so I take that as an indicator that some folks already in Redwood have been reassigned to Defiance. And one more tidbit from reading between the lines, he mentioned one of his people being suprised at how 1990s some of the user interface was. So, new eyes looking at the mess. Stay tuned. /salute Trick

At ~1:37 Trick says, "I play on the Xbox 360, along with the majority of our players." So that suspicion has been confirmed.

At 2:03 He was asked what they were doing about player retention and he had lots to say. First they DO want to retain veteran players. They have initiatives to improve overall game quality and to give us more reasons to log in.

Trick had mentioned earlier that they are improving the clan system and that they are removing the requirement to go solo for certain instances. His crew did a four man on Nim.

Sanguinesun
09-07-2013, 11:33 AM
Watching the Twitch now, can't believe Overload didn't know about Decoy's swapping ability. LOL, it's not only players then...


He only really plays for work. Otherwise he does other things. Seems he burned burgers last night :P

skepticck
09-07-2013, 01:14 PM
I kinda liked this live stream, i like the way Trick answers or try to answer most of the questions and i like what he says when he talks about some of the disappointing aspects of the game.
He gives me a tiny bit of hope that they may go in right direction, of course i had the same hope for DLC 1 and it was pretty much shattered but maybe with Trick more in charge and maybe new eyes, who knows.

OverloadUT
09-07-2013, 01:35 PM
Watching the Twitch now, can't believe Overload didn't know about Decoy's swapping ability. LOL, it's not only players then...

That was incredibly embarrassing. It's true that I haven't used Decoy since release instead favoring Cloak and more recently Overkill. Still though. I should have known! Shame deserved.

DarknessEyes PT
09-07-2013, 01:39 PM
The links works but it gets stuck at begin for a long time.
BTW why Trion dont upload the videos to youtube? Twitch is sooo slow loading the videos... Takes me half hour to watch a 15 mins video on twitch...

Edited: In 60 minutes i was able to watch 25 mins of the video...


and more recently Overkill.

New ability Overkill??? You mean overcharge? :)

Iceberg
09-07-2013, 02:33 PM
The links works but it gets stuck at begin for a long time.
BTW why Trion dont upload the videos to youtube? Twitch is sooo slow loading the videos... Takes me half hour to watch a 15 mins video on twitch...

Edited: In 60 minutes i was able to watch 25 mins of the video...



New ability Overkill??? You mean overcharge? :)

Another foot in mouth moment? :P

DarknessEyes PT
09-07-2013, 02:35 PM
Another foot in mouth moment? :P

Or a shoe in hand (while writing =P)

Iceberg
09-07-2013, 02:37 PM
Or a shoe in hand (while writing =P)

Well said, good sir or madam!

N3gativeCr33p
09-07-2013, 03:01 PM
Twitch is sooo slow loading the videos...

I think Twitch runs surprisingly well on my cell phone. Yesterday produced one of their better webcasts, IMHO.

dahanese
09-07-2013, 06:31 PM
The links works but it gets stuck at begin for a long time.
BTW why Trion dont upload the videos to youtube? Twitch is sooo slow loading the videos... Takes me half hour to watch a 15 mins video on twitch...

Edited: In 60 minutes i was able to watch 25 mins of the video...


Twitch was being weird - we're going to be highlighting out the three different segments but it wasn't working at home or work yesterday. Sometimes is does that. :(

Etaew
09-08-2013, 04:14 AM
Transcription is up: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=87

Dracian
09-08-2013, 04:24 AM
Transcription is up: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=87

Thanks, very much appreciated.

DragonsWife
09-08-2013, 04:48 AM
From the live stream:

Sound issues

There has been a lot of discussion of the sound issues inside of arkfalls, you guys make a lot of noise. From a technical perspective there are only so many channels they can do. They have been definitely working on the priotization of those sounds, but in the face of lag and performance issues the sound is not the highest on our priority.

Frankly, it needs to be a priority, at least for the PS3 headset issues. Every time we use our headsets it increases lag, and makes the sound go out, not just just at arkfalls. It negatively impacts the gaming experience and is just plain frustrating. :mad:


Switch grenades easily?

We're not making a change to the loadout system just yet, because anything in your inventory can be smart loot dropping you will be able to run up to any dropped grenade and hold the pickup button and immediately swap to the grenade.

What happens if you run out of the grenades you have equiped and none have dropped? You go into your loadout screen, LAG, you try to change your grenade, LAG. All the while you're getting shot up by your enemies because Trion wants us to buy more scrip bonuses from them.


The rewards for emergencies are rather weak?

If you grind emergencies and the minor arkfalls, you should actually end up with higher scrip value than any other kind of content. Right now I am getting metrics to find out people who play in particular ways their profit margin.

If after we crunch the numbers that emergencies are still under performing we will bump those up, but for right now they should be scrip ones, salvage from arkfalls and xp from everything. You can actually get a suprising number of ark keys from completing the conflict sites (Events), the locations you fight in during the missions.

One of the things I rather liked about this game was that it didn't feel like a grind. Past tense there, because now apparently they want it to be a boring grind.

DarknessEyes PT
09-08-2013, 05:41 AM
Twitch was being weird - we're going to be highlighting out the three different segments but it wasn't working at home or work yesterday. Sometimes is does that. :(

Twitch is always slow for me, except during live streams.
Its possible to get the Defiance part of twitch videos on Youtube?

Misfit501
09-08-2013, 06:27 AM
Twitch doesn't like my internet connection for some reason.

Etaew
09-09-2013, 03:40 AM
Looks like my Twitch video jumped when I was doing the transcription, missed 11 questions. (Maybe more)

Updated the transcription: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=87

Sirros
09-09-2013, 04:32 AM
Looks like my Twitch video jumped when I was doing the transcription, missed 11 questions. (Maybe more)

Updated the transcription: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=87

Cheers. Good to have it in text.

Spiltmilk
09-09-2013, 06:23 AM
Thanks for the transcription, I had trouble viewing this on twitch. I think a lot of the players are going to want to read the whole thing, I just copied a snip and pasted below.


Retention

We do care, which is why we are making the shift that I am helping to spearhead. The increase in overall quality the better chase, the more reasons to log on.

I think that would mean that we would get a greater retention of people who already are here but it would mean that our acquisitions would stay. It is difficult to discuss that in any specific way without talking a lot of shop that I shouldn't talk about.

Krazy Karen
09-09-2013, 06:54 AM
sound is not the highest on our priority. "

That's sad to hear :( lol, my 800$ sound system says it should be a priority :p

ten4
09-09-2013, 07:02 AM
The rewards for emergencies are rather weak?

Yes, yes they are.


If you grind emergencies and the minor arkfalls, you should actually end up with higher scrip value than any other kind of content. Right now I am getting metrics to find out people who play in particular ways their profit margin.

This made me laugh, it's obvious they rely on 'metrics'. I can list at least 4 different ways to make 90k+ scrip or salvage an hour. To the dev that said that, try playing your game some time imo.

Hint: it's not minor arkfalls or emergencies. Also it has to do with certain CS buffs which I am damn sure you know about; the whole game is designed around them after all.

Maitreakow
09-09-2013, 09:17 AM
That was incredibly embarrassing. It's true that I haven't used Decoy since release instead favoring Cloak and more recently Overkill. Still though. I should have known! Shame deserved.

Wasn't my intent to shame, just found it amusing is all. :p