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jackdaws_1999
01-30-2014, 07:20 AM
Starting this from another thread as to not divulge from topic.

Its about time that trion look into putting some weapons in the rep vendors that arent complete shtako. The thorn liro was at least a step in the right direction with the OJ Blade, but we need weapons in the vendors that encourage people to earn rep.

Im sick of maxing out a rep, then just bombing the mod cache for stuff that does nothing... "yey a detonator mod with precision... how useful... oh wait no thats stupid at best"

Where is the incentive to get rep once you are maxed out? A stupid title? really? as an ultimate edition owner, I dont want to change from "pale wars ronin"... and I definately dont want to be known as "quatermaster"! wtf?!

Here is what I propose:

each vendor already has certain guns that they specialise in, VBI = precision weapons, Soleptor = high fire rate, top notch = ammo regen, thorn liro = well thorn liro, and Paradise... ok forget paradise.

How about that for 1000 rep + 12k scrip they give OJ versions of a random weapon from the machine, gives us something to work for. Make it a random roll, random synergy (from that vendor), with a RANDOM NANO! I dont want Poo shoes on EVERYTHING I OWN!

Actually give us a pistol with prepared, how about an smg with precision? Or how about something from Paradise thats actually worth putting in my inventory and not straight down the shtako pipe in my salvage matrix!

I would love people to suggest other changes to the rep vendors. They need an overhaul.

This wouldnt be something that detracted from fixes and dlcs, it also wouldnt be something that unbalanced the game. It would also add some kind of reason for people to actually do paradise other than to get the achievement/trophy/challenges done. It would certainly make those who dont get OJs no matter how many keys they spend happy, I cant think of a single reason that this wouldnt be a win win.

We get more OJs (tradable, they MUST be tradeable), We get more reason to do Rep contracts, There would be more people willing to take part in stuff, and trion would extend the life of the game. Whats not to like.

Please peoples of the united clans of defiance... even you Nuclear Rubber (only joking), Support this Thread, bump it, view it, reply, suggest stuff, add to it, Annoy Trick and Dahanesse with pointers to it.

I want a reason to do contracts other than to make me feel... empty inside.

DarkNisha
01-30-2014, 07:22 AM
I second this... even if he did wake me up, drag me from my bed and force me to log in and second it... I definately second this.

DarkNisha
01-30-2014, 07:25 AM
Ok, I just read through it, other than the ranting wall of text, I agree. Now can I go back to bed, the stitches in my new cornea are hurting... Thankyou, now go make coffee!!! And I demand another OJ wolfhound for my patience!

dramaQkarri
01-30-2014, 07:30 AM
I agree, this is a good idea! I have no expectation that Trion will hear you tho. But I'll keep bumping the thread.

Regarding MODS, it's about impossible to find mods in the mod vendor that are more than garbage too. I think that should all be revamped so we can buy blue mods of any synergy at the mod vendor, and then keep the specialty vendor mods in the specialty vendor instead. Why on earth Trion would want us to be only modding OJ's with green mods is beyond me. And when blue mods are on special, that price should be less than the regular price if they were all in the vendor. Then we wouldn't be complaining about pathetic mod specials of either weird/useless synergies or two of the same non-synergy. If I really want a certain blue mod, I'm willing to spend scrip for it!!

Generally I've been working contracts to build up the clan, tho I don't need any of those pursuits anymore. It's still fun to run thru them with my friends. I have also been buying the special titles just to have something to show for it. It's not much but once I'm done with that, GEEZ!

Saminator
01-30-2014, 07:42 AM
I agree. I have 1000 reputation on all the vendors as their's just nothing decent to actually buy. The only things that have actually been worth buying was the sword and surge bolter (before the buff). Besides those two, their isn't really much else, you often see some blue/purple weapons that will pop up in normal vendors as a special that I see often outclass the rep vendor weapons and it's just silly, their just isn't really any motivation towards players doing contracts for reputation points besides completing certain pursuits. One thing I would have liked to have seen in a rep vendor would have been a purple EMC Service Rifle, as a lot of recruits that are new to the game, I often take to Hermits Hideaway to buy the blue EMC Service Rifle as it's pretty good, so I'd love to see a purple one for some people to earn, I'm sure a lot of people would actually go for it, or better yet, an orange one :)

BlaqWolf
01-30-2014, 07:46 AM
Agreed - but not a random draw on the OJs.
Have a set selection of weapons in the tradition of that particular faction (but not the one that requires PvP - those offerings should be PvP centric for those who want to torture themselves with that flop), just have the synergies and Nano switch every hour like the 'specials' do so that people who actually bother getting the rep can get a weapon to their preference.
OR: Reduce the rep cost by 50% and make it a random OJ with random (but appropriate) synergy and Nano.

So: 600 rep - pick weapon and 'cycle' through random rolls on the selector until you get the bonuses/synergy/nano you want. Hit 'buy' and all set.
So: 300 rep - you get the OJ weapon you want, take the currently offered Synergy/Nano.
So: 150 rep - you get a random OJ.

Also:

250 rep - complete blue mod set
500 rep - complete purple mod set
1000 rep - complete orange mod set
All sets are of matching synergy and weapon type. Either random, or on a rotating selection.

More expensive mods should also be available through these reputation vendors - offering two bonuses on blues, three on purple, and four on oranges. The mutibonuses would be relatively low on blues (what you find on greens now, but two of them), equivalent of the current blues on purples, et al.
Each mod would cost... 200/300/500 rep respectively.

N3gativeCr33p
01-30-2014, 07:51 AM
Now this is an idea that I can 100% align myself with. Rep vendors should have better shtako!

blujoker
01-30-2014, 07:57 AM
well they did address this after a fashion, though it is a RNG on what you get, but in the DLC the rep vendors will have 'Supply Caches' which will drop rare or better versions of the weapons they sell with there signature synergies (they drop three items altogether, I have gotten 2 weapons and a third misc). Costs 100 rep tokens and 5000 scrip. Sadly don't have a lot of rep on the test server, so can't do much testing in that regard. Mod boxes are 50 and 8k for 4 random mods of that reps signature synergy.

dramaQkarri
01-30-2014, 11:10 AM
BUMP sweetie.

Arsenic_Touch
01-30-2014, 11:15 AM
The rep vendors on the test realm have two new boxes. One is basically a tier 4 chest that gives 4 guns of that particular synergy. You can get oranges out of this box (people have confirmed it)
The other is basically a mod horde chest that gives 4 random mods of that synergy. You can get purple out of this one according to Trick, though what we've seen is greens and blues. Rarity is random on both.

Nefarious
01-30-2014, 11:43 AM
The vendor mods on the test realm have two new boxes. One is basically a tier 4 chest that gives 4 guns of that particular synergy. You can get oranges out of this box (people have confirmed it)


Was going to say this after reading OPs post. But yeah, I think its 100 Rep points to. A lot less then 1000.

MattyTarheel
01-30-2014, 11:46 AM
This is a great idea! I hope this can gather some traction.

TKhBecker
01-30-2014, 12:58 PM
Where is the incentive to get rep once you are maxed out? A stupid title? really? as an ultimate edition owner, I dont want to change from "pale wars ronin"... and I definately dont want to be known as "quatermaster"! wtf?!If you know anything bout the military the quartermaster is actually a privaleged position. I was happy to been a QM while serving in line units while in the Army and I made damn sure that my 10th item from Echelon was the Quartermaster title.

OT: Sure there should be encentives and thats what we'll be getting with the 7th Legion DLC. Supply caches that have a chance of a Legendary faction weapon.

jackdaws_1999
01-30-2014, 01:13 PM
If you know anything bout the military the quartermaster is actually a privaleged position. I was happy to been a QM while serving in line units while in the Army and I made damn sure that my 10th item from Echelon was the Quartermaster title.

OT: Sure there should be encentives and thats what we'll be getting with the 7th Legion DLC. Supply caches that have a chance of a Legendary faction weapon.

I was using quartermaster as an example, having had friends in that position before I appreciate it as a real life title, as a title in defiance... Not so much, for me anyway, you understand my stance, if not my position :)

Re: Arsenic et al, I shall wait to see if this is what we end up with. I certainly hope that they follow the general outline. I prefer the idea of spending 1000 rep for a guaranteed OJ, over a t4 lockbox anyway.

jackdaws_1999
01-30-2014, 01:17 PM
Oh, and thanks for all the support as well :D its nice to see a community responce like that :)

I hope trion read this as a "yip, we got to make rep vendors awesome", rather than "that feature can be removed, its not popular".

I shall withhold judgment till we know better. Perhaps Dahannese could post to confirm or deny what the final outcome will be?

bigguy
01-30-2014, 01:30 PM
i agree with OP ihave had 1000 rep in all vendors for a while and havent done a contract in months or even looked in a rep vendor because everything in the rep vendors is garbage

TKhBecker
01-30-2014, 01:40 PM
I was using quartermaster as an example, having had friends in that position before I appreciate it as a real life title, as a title in defiance... Not so much, for me anyway, you understand my stance, if not my position :)LOL, OK. Yeah alot of the titles are pretty worthless when you take them in real world concept.

Angeleus09
01-30-2014, 01:48 PM
The rep vendors on the test realm have two new boxes. One is basically a tier 4 chest that gives 4 guns of that particular synergy. You can get oranges out of this box (people have confirmed it)
The other is basically a mod horde chest that gives 4 random mods of that synergy. You can get purple out of this one according to Trick, though what we've seen is greens and blues. Rarity is random on both.

Really? That actually seems pretty cool. Now that I think about it I think Trick touched on this last week during the livestream. Still, that does seem like a better way to spend the Rep points. How much does each box cost?

BlaqWolf
01-31-2014, 04:08 PM
Trion is not listening.

Trion does not even read the forums - they leave that to their three mods who have been hired from 'Who Gives a F Temp Staffing', who make 1/2 minimum wage and don't even know what the game 'Defiance' is.