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Altras
04-25-2014, 01:34 PM
Have you spent months trying to collect the perfect weapons for your loadouts? How excited were you when you finally got that Legendary Techmag Pulser with syphon? I know I was ecstatic, that was until ALL MY GLORIOUS LEGENDARIES WERE NEUTERED. I mean what the hell trion? I spent months collecting those weapons and overnight they are now worth nothing more than a equal level green weapon. And since I never inherited millions, don't work for Donald Trump, or own a money making machine, I cannot afford the nearly $1000 it would cost to upgrade my weapons to my ego level. So thank you for insulting a veteran player who has always supported the game. I'm glad my loyalty was treated with a knife in the back. Here's my last $5, take it you money hungry pigs.

-Goodbye community.

Zippy McPinhead
04-25-2014, 01:40 PM
I will miss the zebra butt Altras. Fare well.
IB4L

Altras
04-25-2014, 02:01 PM
Its sad really. Anyone have $1000 they want to give me so I can enjoy this game again?

Yrkul
04-25-2014, 02:14 PM
Take the vendor circuit on a regular basis, and pick up some blues. Much cheaper to maintain. Then upgrade your oranges with what arkforge is left. My main still has 500+ of the 1K arkforge I recieved as part of the season pass.

Bonehead
04-25-2014, 03:40 PM
Have you spent months trying to collect the perfect weapons for your loadouts? How excited were you when you finally got that Legendary Techmag Pulser with syphon? I know I was ecstatic, that was until ALL MY GLORIOUS LEGENDARIES WERE NEUTERED. I mean what the hell trion? I spent months collecting those weapons and overnight they are now worth nothing more than a equal level green weapon. And since I never inherited millions, don't work for Donald Trump, or own a money making machine, I cannot afford the nearly $1000 it would cost to upgrade my weapons to my ego level. So thank you for insulting a veteran player who has always supported the game. I'm glad my loyalty was treated with a knife in the back. Here's my last $5, take it you money hungry pigs.

-Goodbye community.

If you could afford the 1000 bucks you would earn the in game title, Target Demographic.

Yrkul
04-25-2014, 03:44 PM
If you could afford the 1000 bucks you would earn the in game title, Target Demographic.
No, that's for 100. The title for 1K is "Whale".

r2nddan
04-25-2014, 03:46 PM
Are you on xbox? Do you have an eemc smg? the gunslinger 1 with blur effect? can I have it before you go? please?

Bonehead
04-25-2014, 03:49 PM
No, that's for 100. The title for 1K is "Whale".

Point taken good sir. It could be broken down further as well.
Orca, Blue, Right, and *****.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48129000/gif/_48129428_whales226x280.gif

Oh for heaven's sake it's a whale for cryin out loud.

ironcladtrash
04-25-2014, 06:19 PM
Its sad really. Anyone have $1000 they want to give me so I can enjoy this game again?

Oh, Glorious Zebra Butt, you can't leave me, although I understand. Half the time I feel like I am playing Brokeback Defiance. "I wish I knew how to quit you." There really isn't any other game out that's like this. Even with the problems I have, nothing is as fun.

I have my Courier, Typhoon, and glorious new Cannoneer Bio needler upgraded. So at the moment I got a little extra ark forge I could help you out with if you need.

Bonehead
04-25-2014, 06:23 PM
How about crowd source funding for arkforge addicts?

ironcladtrash
04-25-2014, 06:39 PM
How about crowd source funding for arkforge addicts?

What you mean?

Bonehead
04-25-2014, 07:03 PM
Get a famous spokesperson to publicly explain the plight of the defiance player strugling to keep his/her gear updated and use pictures of puppies and have Sarah McLachlan sing and then send the donations to;

Arkhunters Update Fund
c/o Bonehead
the interbutts.

BJWyler
04-25-2014, 07:26 PM
Point taken good sir. It could be broken down further as well.
Orca, Blue, Right, and *****.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/48129000/gif/_48129428_whales226x280.gif

Oh for heaven's sake it's a whale for cryin out loud.

Look on the bright side, we won't have no problem discussing the various genus of cumquat all day long.

ironcladtrash
04-25-2014, 07:44 PM
Get a famous spokesperson to publicly explain the plight of the defiance player strugling to keep his/her gear updated and use pictures of puppies and have Sarah McLachlan sing and then send the donations to;

Arkhunters Update Fund
c/o Bonehead
the interbutts.

Wait no pictures of puppies. Whoever the spokesperson is should be cuddling an injured hellbug. But still keep the Sara McLachlan song.

polarity
04-25-2014, 07:48 PM
Have you spent months trying to collect the perfect weapons for your loadouts? How excited were you when you finally got that Legendary Techmag Pulser with syphon?

http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu268/cierona/Defiance/Image-060.jpg

Got mine on my second day of playing. Doesn't mean I'm not pissed though, barely got a week's use out of it.

Yrkul
04-25-2014, 09:05 PM
Got mine on my second day of playing. Doesn't mean I'm not pissed though, barely got a week's use out of it.
Now imagine it with damage and crit bonuses and assassin synergy. No wonder some people are upset seeing their babies held hostage.

Bonehead
04-25-2014, 09:31 PM
Now imagine it with damage and crit bonuses and assassin synergy. No wonder some people are upset seeing their babies held hostage.

Not so much held hostage as kidnapped and taken to re-education camps never to be seen again.

Yrkul
04-25-2014, 10:05 PM
Not so much held hostage as kidnapped and taken to re-education camps never to be seen again.
What? No, no, no. It's improved now. See? It's happy. We're all happy..... (strokes gun in a disturbing fashion)

Altras
04-25-2014, 10:31 PM
So at the moment I got a little extra ark forge I could help you out with if you need.

Have I ever told you how much I love you? Btw I know you wont see this till later, but we're about to spank this Explosions 101 expert. And too a previous comment, im playing on PC/NA

Tallon
04-25-2014, 11:30 PM
No, that's for 100. The title for 1K is "Whale".
Actually, for 1k It's "girlfriend needed". (or "boyfriend need" not to descriminate here)

Altras
04-26-2014, 12:20 AM
Hell, if they even released a thingy in the bit store to put all my weapons up to my ego, I'd be all over that. But the current "deal" for arkforge reminds me of a middle finger, follow by a ***** slap, followed by getting spat on, followed by getting kicked in the shin, then getting urinated on. Like jeez Trion we get it, you hate poor players, enough said.

Hopeisdead
04-26-2014, 01:14 AM
I do not agree. 5 layouts = 10 weapons 3750 if you were lucky to get low EGO weapon of your dreams to 5750 = 10k arkforge that is approximately an month top. But yes whole scaling of weapons is indeed an feature based around micro-transactions.

On the other hand, players asked for being more powerful when they are higher EGO. And it comes hand to hand with additional "Goals" to get even higher for DLC owners.

Atticus Batman
04-26-2014, 01:54 AM
Hell, if they even released a thingy in the bit store to put all my weapons up to my ego, I'd be all over that. But the current "deal" for arkforge reminds me of a middle finger, follow by a ***** slap, followed by getting spat on, followed by getting kicked in the shin, then getting urinated on. Like jeez Trion we get it, you hate poor players, enough said.

That may be painful and disgusting to us, but some people pay alot for that, and those Doms enjoy every bit of the cash as well as dishing out THAT punishment!

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/lois-griffin-dominatrix.png

Coyote Clive
04-26-2014, 02:04 AM
Hell, if they even released a thingy in the bit store to put all my weapons up to my ego, I'd be all over that. But the current "deal" for arkforge reminds me of a middle finger, follow by a ***** slap, followed by getting spat on, followed by getting kicked in the shin, then getting urinated on. Like jeez Trion we get it, you hate poor players, enough said.

I know how ya feel bother. I quit the day after I realized the B.S. fix was in. Arkforge is all DLC 5 was about. Like I said in another post the introductory low rate of interest is over. I am willing to bet this was the plan all along with Trion. I bet it was "let them play a year and build up a group of friends and a big inventory before we hit them with arkforge" "Then they will be more likely to hang on and keep playing cuz they don't want to walk away from all they achieved"

Well Altras. It was fun being in Ozz squad with you. I am curious about the status of the clan. I have refused to even log into the game since they torpedoed it.

Ironhide
04-26-2014, 06:11 AM
Actually, for 1k It's "girlfriend needed". (or "boyfriend need" not to descriminate here)

How bout we just combine the 2 terms, "Whale Polisher"

What? Why is everyone looking at me?..... It means to "Entice the people with money till they give up their glorious bounty"... Geeze people get yer minds outa the gutter.....;)

Bonehead
04-26-2014, 09:05 AM
Arkforge is all DLC 5 was about.

I have to agree with you on that point. It wasn't even very clever how they did it. All the ego progression and difficulty scaling theat level falderal was about introducing arkforge into the game. The new scoring system seems designed so that you really can't keep your weapons current with your ego as well. at sieges and arkfalls you level up far faster than you earn arkforge. the boxes help but that's just more Trion rng casino gambling.
On the other hand, it's not so different from other games with vertical progression. Borderlands comes to mind but one of the really nice unique and cool parts of the game that made it stand out from the rest is gone forever.
I wonder what else Trick has in mind for it?

From Trick;
"While arkforge certainly is useful throughout the game, for keeping prized weapons at the same rating as the ark hunter, it becomes absolutely vital to high-rating characters for its use both for bringing up low level gear, but also for its ability to allow for a reroll of mastery bonuses. Arkforge will continue to provide additional benefits as we continue adding features to the game."

Hmmmmm, additional benefits.

bigguy
04-26-2014, 10:41 AM
Arkforge will continue to make you feel you must purchase it from the bit store as we continue adding features to the game.

ironcladtrash
04-26-2014, 04:09 PM
Have I ever told you how much I love you? Btw I know you wont see this till later, but we're about to spank this Explosions 101 expert. And too a previous comment, im playing on PC/NA

You're welcome but in hindsight I probably should have made you promise not to headshot me in SWs. :) I think you are cursed on Explosions 101 map. I have lost track how many times I have done that and did it at least 3 times yesterday and that was the first time we couldn't do it. There is almost nothing we can do when all the minions non stop spawn.

ironcladtrash
04-26-2014, 04:13 PM
That may be painful and disgusting to us, but some people pay alot for that, and those Doms enjoy every bit of the cash as well as dishing out THAT punishment!

http://www.toptenz.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/lois-griffin-dominatrix.png

The wife keeps hitting the gym like a mad woman. She's been telling me to keep playing video games and and sit on my but and eventually she is just going to get so buff and will beat me up on general principle. I tried to tell her I liked it rough but she reminded me my safe word is OUCH.

polarity
04-26-2014, 05:12 PM
Arkforge will continue to provide additional benefits as we continue adding features to the game."

Hmmmmm, additional benefits.


I'm guessing the guy spends more time talking to upper management and shareholders, than the devs or players, and got confused about exactly who is going to benefit. Just like how he seems confused about which sheilds are better than others.

Altras
04-26-2014, 05:53 PM
Well Altras. It was fun being in Ozz squad with you. I am curious about the status of the clan. I have refused to even log into the game since they torpedoed it.

The clans actually doing really well, we've almost double in size, especially since I convinced ozz to merger with Blood Syndicate Gaming. Ontop of recruiting my fellow pvper's. The warriors continue to grow, even tho Trion is trying to drive all its players away. Maybe when I win the lottery ill upgrade my weapons egos. Yah that's a good plan, win the lottery, then give it all to Trion. That's what they want right? Kinda like "Oh you have bills to pay? We really don't care. Give us your money or we'll ruin the game for you even more."

I half expect season 2 to bring us the following:
1.200 Bits to enter Coop
2.400 Bits to play Shadow war
3.You want to play competitive?(Observatory, Freight yard, etc.) Well **** that noise, we'll charge 1600 bits for it.
4. Anytime you want to spawn a vehicle, 100 bits
5. Need to restock your sticks, stems and grenades? 200 bits.
6. Oh you got a legendary! 500 bits to unlock and use it!
7. Ohnoez you ran out of ammo, that's 200 bits son
8. I like the way the dance boy, that'll be 150 bits.
9. LOL you want to do something with your clan? 50 bits to talk in clan chat.
10. Sorry but we don't like you, that'll be 500 bits just to log on.

Happy hunting mother ****er.

BJWyler
04-29-2014, 07:26 AM
The clans actually doing really well, we've almost double in size, especially since I convinced ozz to merger with Blood Syndicate Gaming. Ontop of recruiting my fellow pvper's. The warriors continue to grow, even tho Trion is trying to drive all its players away. Maybe when I win the lottery ill upgrade my weapons egos. Yah that's a good plan, win the lottery, then give it all to Trion. That's what they want right? Kinda like "Oh you have bills to pay? We really don't care. Give us your money or we'll ruin the game for you even more."

I half expect season 2 to bring us the following:
1.200 Bits to enter Coop
2.400 Bits to play Shadow war
3.You want to play competitive?(Observatory, Freight yard, etc.) Well **** that noise, we'll charge 1600 bits for it.
4. Anytime you want to spawn a vehicle, 100 bits
5. Need to restock your sticks, stems and grenades? 200 bits.
6. Oh you got a legendary! 500 bits to unlock and use it!
7. Ohnoez you ran out of ammo, that's 200 bits son
8. I like the way the dance boy, that'll be 150 bits.
9. LOL you want to do something with your clan? 50 bits to talk in clan chat.
10. Sorry but we don't like you, that'll be 500 bits just to log on.

Happy hunting mother ****er.

So what you are saying is that they are following the EA model of developing. That's just fantastic.

Don't forget about the 200 bits per post to use the forums.

Altras
04-29-2014, 08:55 AM
So what you are saying is that they are following the EA model of developing. That's just fantastic.

Don't forget about the 200 bits per post to use the forums.

Pretty much yah.

Extreme Rugburn
04-29-2014, 10:08 AM
Obviously Trion is a business and wants to make money and microtransactions were a reality from the beginning of this game. I am fine with both of these facts; however, as many people have already commented, the way in which they went about reorganizing gameplay and penalized players in order to increase revenue through the bit store is seriously wrong. Everyones equipment should have been raised to their current ego. If Trion had done this I think most of us would be happy because we could then manage the leveling of our equipment and some people would still buy bits for arkforge. As I have said in previous threads, I have been dumping most of my equipment because it is not realistic that I will be able to level even half of it up to my current ego. I really think Trion needs to look at ways to be less abrrasive and more consumer friendly in how they attempt to get us to use their Bit Store. Again, I know Trion is a business and wants to make money but they are alienating their consumers with there blatant and obvious money grab attempts. Its really very aggravating as many of us here on the forums truely like the game, but are tired of how Trion keeps "messing" with things.

Opus
04-29-2014, 10:09 PM
I was 2550 EGO or so when the newest patch hit. All of my legs and fave weapons were scaled up to level 1886. I upped the EGO on a handful choice weapons and my shield, most of which were legs, and I think I have maybe -- 300 arkforge left. And now I'm left with quite a few legendary weapons that will never make it past 1886. I'd like to just get rid of them, but I'd be willing to bet that arkforge becomes more easily attainable in the coming weeks/months. And then I'll just kick myself for selling them.

It's damn infuriating. If nothing else, they should have made upping legs cheaper, or at least increased them to the EGO level we were.

I get they need to make money, I do. But I probably picked up 1/3 of my legendaries using bits to buy boxes. So, they've essentially punished me for spending real money in the first place.


On the other hand, it's not so different from other games with vertical progression. Borderlands comes to mind but one of the really nice unique and cool parts of the game that made it stand out from the rest is gone forever.


Although Gearbox does give away codes for golden keys all the time for top level gear. For free.

cary2010haha
04-29-2014, 10:17 PM
ark forge is so cheap, few of my aisa friends already upgrade about 40-90 item from 3700 ego to 5600ego, and they buy nearly 20+ orange weapon kit and they want those back.



but i am poor and i can't make these offer............sad

Bonehead
04-29-2014, 10:23 PM
Although Gearbox does give away codes for golden keys all the time for top level gear. For free.

Hella good point there. Totally different business model.

Bonehead
04-29-2014, 10:25 PM
ark forge is so cheap, few of my aisa friends already upgrade about 40-90 item from 3700 ego to 5600ego, and they buy nearly 20+ orange weapon kit and they want those back.


Thar she blows!

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1527925/thumbs/o-HUMPBACK-WHALE-HAWAII-900.jpg?1

Yrkul
04-29-2014, 11:39 PM
...and they buy nearly 20+ orange weapon kit
http://cdn.motinetwork.net/animeotakus.org/image/anime/1308/gundamn-it-gundam-damn-facepalm-anime-otakus-1375456317.jpg

This is why we get shoddy games.

Atticus Batman
04-30-2014, 12:02 AM
ark forge is so cheap, few of my aisa friends already upgrade about 40-90 item from 3700 ego to 5600ego, and they buy nearly 20+ orange weapon kit and they want those back.



but i am poor and i can't make these offer............sad

Darn Asian whales ruin every MMO!

http://www.thejunglestore.com/site/images/Gray%20Whale.jpg

polarity
04-30-2014, 01:09 AM
Although Gearbox does give away codes for golden keys all the time for top level gear. For free.Hella good point there. Totally different business model.

Yeah. With Gearbox you pay for a DLC season pass, and you get DLC, with actual quality content.

Altras
04-30-2014, 05:43 AM
This thread has been on the front page for a couple of days now, and still not one trion member feels the need to explain why we are being punished. fml

N3gativeCr33p
04-30-2014, 05:45 AM
This thread has been on the front page for a couple of days now, and still not one trion member feels the need to explain why we are being punished. fml

You're really not that surprised though, are you?

Altras
04-30-2014, 06:27 AM
You're really not that surprised though, are you?

Just because your right, doesnt mean i agree
http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k607/AnnaTangelo/Gifs/1296117345607.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/AnnaTangelo/media/Gifs/1296117345607.gif.html)

N3gativeCr33p
04-30-2014, 06:39 AM
Just because your right, doesnt mean i agree

I don't agree with the silence from their end as well, but it is what it is...

Coyote Clive
04-30-2014, 06:49 AM
Geez. How would they respond? It's way too close to their BS zone's soft gooey center.

Trion: "Well guys! The good news is we added arkforge so you can make your weapons improve with you!!!!!!!!"

Sane person: "Weren't all my weapons as good as they could be before you dropped the new DLC?"

Trion: "So with the new arkforge you will be able to fight the new old enemies that are way tougher with your arkforge enhanced new old weapons that are better now than they were before they were worse."

Sane person: "Feets don't fail me now!"

Altras
04-30-2014, 06:52 AM
Geez. How would they respond? It's way too close to their BS zone's soft gooey center.



http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/ae179/vader1230/damnit.gif (http://media.photobucket.com/user/vader1230/media/damnit.gif.html)

Zugo
04-30-2014, 08:14 AM
Thar she blows!

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1527925/thumbs/o-HUMPBACK-WHALE-HAWAII-900.jpg?1

LOL, thanks for that. My morning is full of smiles.