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Phixsator
04-03-2013, 03:26 AM
So the fact is a lot of us are having issues with performance. But instead of making a complain thread I think we should pool up with our specs and drivers and FPS count to see if we can figure out how much we can do ourselves to remedy this problem.

For AMD GFX users I would recommend using RadeonPro to force the ingame vsync OFF, as it doesn't seem to be possible through the Catalyst Control Center.

My Specs
AMD FX8350 @ stock
Crossfired 7950 @ stock 925 (factory oc), Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 (works like a charm in any other game)
16 gigs of Kingston HyperX Beast @1866
OCZ Vector 256gb SSD, with win 8 pro(fully updated) and the game installed on.
120hz Samsung s950 monitor 1920x1080
850w XFX Proseries XXX PSU

Performance is not good for me, the biggest sinner is the shadows and the forced vsync. with everything turned on I get anywhere from 25ish to 60 in an empty area out in nowhere land. Also the game feels very chuggy or stuttering most of the game.

Please do not post a simple "the game runs fine here" comment as it does not help in any way or shape. If the game is running as you want it to please include specs and driver version of the gfx drivers you have installed, including ingame settings and an fps count and where it was taken as a minimum.

Senel
04-03-2013, 04:06 AM
Does Defiance support crossfire? I know a lot of games that don't support it and when you play it this usually causes massive FPS issues. I'm surprised people are having FPS issues the game runs very smooth for me.

Dinova
04-03-2013, 04:07 AM
The only issue i have is the flickering in some menu's, rest is all just default settings (AMD 5970).

Djimon Hounsou
04-03-2013, 04:22 AM
sli > cross over.

Phixsator
04-03-2013, 05:23 AM
Does Defiance support crossfire? I know a lot of games that don't support it and when you play it this usually causes massive FPS issues. I'm surprised people are having FPS issues the game runs very smooth for me.

Yes crossfire works in defiance but there is no profile for it as of yet so you have to enable it for unsupported games through CCC, and there is also scaling but not more than 30ish%. Also you say the game runs smooth for you so why don't you do us a favor and post your pc specs, ingame settings and what gfx driver you are using with an FPS count(you can use fraps demo for free to measure).


The only issue i have is the flickering in some menu's, rest is all just default settings (AMD 5970).
Again please post pc specs, ingame settings and driver version for you gfx with an fps count.


sli > cross over.
Troll go home. You know nothing of what you are talking about and your post is not helping anyone.

Senel
04-03-2013, 05:50 AM
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68B8)
Driver Version: 9.2.0.0

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/NonDeadDan/set_zps4b6b7915.png
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/NonDeadDan/fps_zps033b341c.png

I haven't used fraps before but is this everything you asked for? Tried my best back to the game.

Noupoi
04-03-2013, 06:54 AM
I'm using a i7 920 @ 3.8GHz, and a Radeon 7970 (13.3 Beta 2 drivers + Dynamic V-Sync on in RadeonPro) @ (1100/1600MHz) at 2650x1440. I see a constant 60 FPS apart from at busier locations, where they'll dip to about 45 minimum.

I'm running Fullscreen, Medium quality, with motion blur off. On the whole, the game runs perfectly for me.

Ins4neN1ghtmare
04-03-2013, 06:56 AM
I have everything set to HIGH/ON and i have 0 problems. My specs are in my signature. Game looks great to me. I do get the flickering at times, but that's at like game start-up and a menu every now and again. Nothing that actually impacts the game-play

Bluntski
04-03-2013, 06:58 AM
Game runes flawlessly 100% maxxed.

i5 3570k @ 3.8ghz
HD7970
8gb Ram

Phixsator
04-03-2013, 10:20 AM
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68B8)
Driver Version: 9.2.0.0

I haven't used fraps before but is this everything you asked for? Tried my best back to the game.

I appreciate that you put some efforts into your port. Thank you for that. How does the game feel for you? Fraps is a simple download and run app nothing major about it. it will give you an ingame FPS counter to measure the performance. Its not the best way of measuring performance but is the easiest to get up and running.


Game runes flawlessly 100% maxxed.

i5 3570k @ 3.8ghz
HD7970
8gb Ram

Your describtion of flawless may differ quiet a bit from mine or any others for that matter. Please be specific. Also what driver version are you using?


I have everything set to HIGH/ON and i have 0 problems. My specs are in my signature. Game looks great to me. I do get the flickering at times, but that's at like game start-up and a menu every now and again. Nothing that actually impacts the game-play

What driver version are you running?

Mog
04-03-2013, 10:25 AM
I am playing on High setting with shadows, motion blur and v-sync on. Game runs perfectly smooth with no hiccups and I get a consistent 60 FPS.

Specs:
Windows 8 Pro
i5 2500k clocked @ 4.3 GHz
8GB DDR3 1600
Nvidia GTX 670 2GB vram using latest drivers
Game installed on a SSD

Rip
04-03-2013, 10:43 AM
I don't know what happen but in Beta and Alpha I was able to run the game with everything to on with out any problems. In the release version I am having to run it in low with everything turned off and it is still laggy and choppy and enemies disappearing and then coming back, especially when I am driving or in arkfall

Windows 7 pro 64 bit
Intel Xeon E3110 (3.0 ghz )
8 gb of ram
Ati Radeon 5830

Yes I know my system is a little outdated but I am able to run Tomb Raider, Bioshock Infinite Start Trek online and many other game with high graphics settings or at least medium without any problems. I'm just having issues with this game and I didn't with the Alpha and 3 Beta's.

Exchequer
04-03-2013, 10:49 AM
So the fact is a lot of us are having issues with performance. But instead of making a complain thread I think we should pool up with our specs and drivers and FPS count to see if we can figure out how much we can do ourselves to remedy this problem.

For AMD GFX users I would recommend using RadeonPro to force the ingame vsync OFF, as it doesn't seem to be possible through the Catalyst Control Center.

My Specs
AMD FX8350 @ stock
Crossfired 7950 @ stock 925 (factory oc), Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 (works like a charm in any other game)
16 gigs of Kingston HyperX Beast @1866
OCZ Vector 256gb SSD, with win 8 pro(fully updated) and the game installed on.
120hz Samsung s950 monitor 1920x1080
850w XFX Proseries XXX PSU

Performance is not good for me, the biggest sinner is the shadows and the forced vsync. with everything turned on I get anywhere from 25ish to 60 in an empty area out in nowhere land. Also the game feels very chuggy or stuttering most of the game.

Please do not post a simple "the game runs fine here" comment as it does not help in any way or shape. If the game is running as you want it to please include specs and driver version of the gfx drivers you have installed, including ingame settings and an fps count and where it was taken as a minimum.

The FX8350 is kind of a slow cpu... I doubt you will find many games where it will not bottleneck. Check the gpu load with gpu-z or msi afterburner. I would not be surprised if it is <50% most of the time.

Racheakt
04-03-2013, 10:52 AM
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 750 @ 2.67GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.7GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Card name: ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x68B8)
Driver Version: 9.2.0.0

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/NonDeadDan/set_zps4b6b7915.png
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u224/NonDeadDan/fps_zps033b341c.png

I haven't used fraps before but is this everything you asked for? Tried my best back to the game.

So that is what the setting screen looks like, I have a 144hz monitor so I had no idea ;-)

Bluntski
04-03-2013, 10:56 AM
Your describtion of flawless may differ quiet a bit from mine or any others for that matter. Please be specific. Also what driver version are you using?

Catalyst 13.1

Flawless as in no hiccups, stutters, lag, crashes, glitches etc.

Angellus
04-03-2013, 11:00 AM
Intel 3570K OC @ 4.2Ghz
Nvidia GTX 670 FTW (EVGA) Drivers: 314.22 (WHQL) (set to application controlled)
1920x1080

99% of the time the game is showing as 60FPS in fraps with the occasional dip down as low as 40FPS (Custom Setting as well as High)

I haven't noticed a difference between the two settings and obviously Custom doesn't give any options.

Overall the game runs smooth and I haven't noticed many if any graphic errors.

Gigachip
04-03-2013, 11:02 AM
Running smooth for me. I turned fraps on, it was showing ~64fps on high, Don't think i've seen it (during avg gameplay) dip below 45fps. I'll have to check later today.
lowest I've gone was 25, but that was when last night/early this morning for some, the Challenger demo derby went on in Iron Demon Ranch.
Win 8.
i7-3770k @ 4.5ghz
16 gb 1600mhz Corsair Veng RAM
Sabertooth z77
HD7970 ghz ed. 1200/1600 in xfire
game installed on 750 gb hybrid drive (not the OS drive btw)
and a 1600x900 monitor @60hz


The FX8350 is kind of a slow cpu... I doubt you will find many games where it will not bottleneck. Check the gpu load with gpu-z or msi afterburner. I would not be surprised if it is <50% most of the time.

fx 8350 is on par with a 3570k

Mctash
04-03-2013, 11:27 AM
Intel 3820 OC to 4.4GHz
32 Gig Ram
SSD
2 X GTX 670SLI
1000W PSU
Dell 30" Monitor @ 2560X1600
All effects maxxed
The game seems to be capped at 60FPS, All I ever see is 60FPS, it never deviates, and never exceeds it. Wierd.

Angellus
04-03-2013, 11:29 AM
Running smooth for me. I turned fraps on, it was showing ~64fps on high, Don't think i've seen it (during avg gameplay) dip below 45fps. I'll have to check later today.
lowest I've gone was 25, but that was when last night/early this morning for some, the Challenger demo derby went on in Iron Demon Ranch.
Win 8.
i7-3770k @ 4.5ghz
16 gb 1600mhz Corsair Veng RAM
Sabertooth z77
HD7970 ghz ed. 1200/1600 in xfire
game installed on 750 gb hybrid drive (not the OS drive btw)
and a 1600x900 monitor @60hz



fx 8350 is on par with a 3570k

And in some instances out performs it.

Moose Of Woe
04-03-2013, 11:30 AM
Game runs fine at 60hz, but crashes on my 120hz capable monitor.

Other than that, it runs flawlessly but I do have a pretty over the top setup. (5.0ghz, 32mb 2133 ram, gtx 580 3gb)

Exchequer
04-03-2013, 11:31 AM
Running smooth for me. I turned fraps on, it was showing ~64fps on high, Don't think i've seen it (during avg gameplay) dip below 45fps. I'll have to check later today.
lowest I've gone was 25, but that was when last night/early this morning for some, the Challenger demo derby went on in Iron Demon Ranch.
Win 8.
i7-3770k @ 4.5ghz
16 gb 1600mhz Corsair Veng RAM
Sabertooth z77
HD7970 ghz ed. 1200/1600 in xfire
game installed on 750 gb hybrid drive (not the OS drive btw)
and a 1600x900 monitor @60hz



fx 8350 is on par with a 3570k

Even without considering the fact that each K cpu runs 4.5Ghz effortless this statement is untrue:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51141.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51140.png

The 8350 lacks power and it this has shown on previous games (for example check the planetside 2 forum, it is full of frustrated 8350 owners).

Gigachip
04-03-2013, 11:34 AM
Even without considering the fact that each K cpu runs 4.5Ghz effortless this statement is untrue:

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51141.png
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph6396/51140.png


these guys seem to say it does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg&list=PL8mG-RkN2uTzThDLOVYT6e0WpVz_0-dRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Death Lotus
04-03-2013, 11:43 AM
have you ever considered that maybe it is your internet connection? are you connecting wirelessly or directly to your modem?

Exchequer
04-03-2013, 11:50 AM
these guys seem to say it does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICVeN6WEGgg&list=PL8mG-RkN2uTzThDLOVYT6e0WpVz_0-dRc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu8Sekdb-IE

Skipped through the first vid even that clearly shows the 8350 is behind except for battlefield (that is gpu limited by the way see http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html ).

I would recommend you learn from the high quality sites that are out there (anandtech, tomshardware, bittech, techreport, techpowerup) and not some random guy with a youtube channel.

Phixsator
04-03-2013, 11:51 AM
It does not lack power, any statement saying it does is faulty at best. The single thread performance is a little slower than a 3570k but saying its a slow CPU by itself is improper and wrong. It rivals and sometimes even surpass the 3570k in overall performance, especially when it comes to more modern games that takes full advantage of multithreading. Release a game today thats incapable of proper multithreading is seriously dumb and inexcusable. Also listing only 2 benchmarks that is know to be all about singlethread performance does not give a proper picture. Take a look at Tomb Raider, FarCry 3, Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, all games where the fx8350 delivers competitive performance for its pricerange.

Phixsator
04-03-2013, 11:52 AM
have you ever considered that maybe it is your internet connection? are you connecting wirelessly or directly to your modem?

I highly doubt its my internet, since im sitting directly at the wall on a fiber connection running 150mb up and down when it peaks..

Gigachip
04-03-2013, 11:57 AM
Skipped through the first vid even that clearly shows the 8350 is behind except for battlefield (that is gpu limited by the way see http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063-13.html ).

I would recommend you learn from the high quality sites that are out there (anandtech, tomshardware, bittech, techreport, techpowerup) and not some random guy with a youtube channel.

what ever man, you just don't want to accept that its on par with it.
As far as them being random, I don't think they're as random as you think they are.



It does not lack power, any statement saying it does is faulty at best. The single thread performance is a little slower than a 3570k but saying its a slow CPU by itself is improper and wrong. It rivals and sometimes even surpass the 3570k in overall performance, especially when it comes to more modern games that takes full advantage of multithreading. Release a game today thats incapable of proper multithreading is seriously dumb and inexcusable. Also listing only 2 benchmarks that is know to be all about singlethread performance does not give a proper picture. Take a look at Tomb Raider, FarCry 3, Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, all games where the fx8350 delivers competitive performance for its pricerange.

which is what I was saying...so Thank you :)

Doz
04-03-2013, 12:04 PM
Network Speed test :http://www.speedtest.net/

My network speed is 60 Mbps down and 5 Mbps up. I have no issue after 6 full hours of play last night.

Operating System: Windows 7 Pro SP1 x64
CPU: AMD FX-4100 Zambezi Quad 3.8GHz Turbo
RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 EVO AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
Graphics: EVGA SuperClocked 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
Hand Keyboard: Belkin N52te
Display: Samsung 22" Led
Mouse: Logitech MX518
PC Case: Antec P-182
PSU: Antec 850W Continuous Power 80 PLUS
Hard Drives: 120GB Corsair Force Series GT SSD for (OS)
2nd HD Western Digital Sata 6.0Gb 2TB 64MB for (games)

Rullingsen
04-03-2013, 12:18 PM
So the fact is a lot of us are having issues with performance. But instead of making a complain thread I think we should pool up with our specs and drivers and FPS count to see if we can figure out how much we can do ourselves to remedy this problem.

For AMD GFX users I would recommend using RadeonPro to force the ingame vsync OFF, as it doesn't seem to be possible through the Catalyst Control Center.

My Specs
AMD FX8350 @ stock
Crossfired 7950 @ stock 925 (factory oc), Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 (works like a charm in any other game)
16 gigs of Kingston HyperX Beast @1866
OCZ Vector 256gb SSD, with win 8 pro(fully updated) and the game installed on.
120hz Samsung s950 monitor 1920x1080
850w XFX Proseries XXX PSU

Performance is not good for me, the biggest sinner is the shadows and the forced vsync. with everything turned on I get anywhere from 25ish to 60 in an empty area out in nowhere land. Also the game feels very chuggy or stuttering most of the game.

Please do not post a simple "the game runs fine here" comment as it does not help in any way or shape. If the game is running as you want it to please include specs and driver version of the gfx drivers you have installed, including ingame settings and an fps count and where it was taken as a minimum.

Have you given Timer Resolution a go? http://www.lucashale.com/timerresolution/TimerResolution.zip Klick: Download TimerResolution.zip (7 kb) on the website. You will download a zip file containing a single file witch you have to run. Then start the game.

After you downlaoded the zip, open the software and klick "Maximum" (Don't close the software after), then run the game.

Please report if you have any ingame lagg improvements. It should give you some boost (in my case it's a 10-20 fps increase). Some systems allow better performance then others ofc. Some don't get any improvementsat all. It all depends on your CPU.

TacoThief
04-03-2013, 12:34 PM
Was getting 30ish FPS with a GTX 580, i7-2600k, and 8GB of ram. Updating my drivers to the latest and forcing Vsync off in the nvidia control panel seems to have fixed my problems. Getting around 80-100 now.

Now if they just redo this crappy console-port UI and get rid of the bunny hopping in PVP then I'll be set!

ExcuseMyMandarin
04-03-2013, 12:41 PM
So the fact is a lot of us are having issues with performance. But instead of making a complain thread I think we should pool up with our specs and drivers and FPS count to see if we can figure out how much we can do ourselves to remedy this problem.

For AMD GFX users I would recommend using RadeonPro to force the ingame vsync OFF, as it doesn't seem to be possible through the Catalyst Control Center.

My Specs
AMD FX8350 @ stock
Crossfired 7950 @ stock 925 (factory oc), Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 (works like a charm in any other game)
16 gigs of Kingston HyperX Beast @1866
OCZ Vector 256gb SSD, with win 8 pro(fully updated) and the game installed on.
120hz Samsung s950 monitor 1920x1080
850w XFX Proseries XXX PSU

Performance is not good for me, the biggest sinner is the shadows and the forced vsync. with everything turned on I get anywhere from 25ish to 60 in an empty area out in nowhere land. Also the game feels very chuggy or stuttering most of the game.

Please do not post a simple "the game runs fine here" comment as it does not help in any way or shape. If the game is running as you want it to please include specs and driver version of the gfx drivers you have installed, including ingame settings and an fps count and where it was taken as a minimum.

Intel I7 3770 @3.4 GHZ
Sapphire Radeon 7950 @ 1250 Mhz on memory and 810 Mhz on GPU clock
The game is stored on a 1 TB WD Green Cavalier
Benq 1920 x 1080 2 MS 60 Hz
650w PSU (cant remember fabricant)
16 GB 1600 Mhz Ram

So, Id guess its the CPU that is causing the problems. I do not have any problems playing the game. Id guess 100 FPS (have not checked, cba atm)

Phixsator
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Have you given Timer Resolution a go? http://www.lucashale.com/timerresolution/TimerResolution.zip Klick: Download TimerResolution.zip (7 kb) on the website. You will download a zip file containing a single file witch you have to run. Then start the game.

After you downlaoded the zip, open the software and klick "Maximum" (Don't close the software after), then run the game.

Please report if you have any ingame lagg improvements. It should give you some boost (in my case it's a 10-20 fps increase). Some systems allow better performance then others ofc. Some don't get any improvementsat all. It all depends on your CPU.

Actually I already have it on my desktop as it seems to fix some issues with hit detection in Battlefield 3. Ill give it a go.. thank you for pointing it out.

Senel
04-03-2013, 12:54 PM
I appreciate that you put some efforts into your port. Thank you for that. How does the game feel for you? Fraps is a simple download and run app nothing major about it. it will give you an ingame FPS counter to measure the performance. Its not the best way of measuring performance but is the easiest to get up and running.

Oh the game is perfectly fine for me, i'm shocked that people are having issues with FPS at all. Honestly it's very smooth.

v1ctor
04-03-2013, 01:33 PM
i5 2500k@4.2ghz
R7970GE 3GB
8GB RAM
Win7 64

Playing the game in 1080p, medium details with shadows, blur and bloom turned on.

(Note: Keep in mind that framerate is influenced by the time of day in game)
Average FPS when exploring: 50-60FPS
Average FPS in major arcfalls: 40-45FPS (feels laggy and unresponsive)

I generally disable shadows in major arcfalls due to the huge impact on performance and the fact that the game just doesn't feel smooth with 40fps.

GPU optimization in Defiance is very poor, that's why you don't see a difference between High End and Mid end GPUs. Like many others I'm really disappointed with the performance in this game.

Lastly, for those of you wondering what the differences between High and Medium details are: It only affects Tree foliage, view distance and shadow quality. Texture quality remains untouched.

Nipper
04-03-2013, 01:45 PM
Well first off. They use dx9 so it wont be like mind blowing gfx with effects. There is alot of clipping issues while playing in ark falls. What I mean by this is players that don't show up at all. I run with high settings I get sold 59.9 fps at menus while out playing I get 25 to 30 as well with out a drop past that. I think thats how it was designed as to play on low end computers.

I also notice it never uses more then 60% of my gpu power. Not saying that is a bad thing just saying it doesn't use what I could be using.

My specs is a Intel core 2 Quad q9300 2.5ghz with 8gig ram and a EVGA 660 GTX SC.

few screen caps of how it looks. In the upper left it shows my gpu temp usage and fan speed. Want to see the images more clearly http://mcdominion.net/images/defiance
http://mcdominion.net/images/defiance/Defiance%202013-04-03%2013-37-58-48.bmp
http://mcdominion.net/images/defiance/Defiance%202013-04-03%2013-38-33-13.bmp

DroidZ
04-03-2013, 01:47 PM
can i get some help? The patcher for my pc keeps on just redownloading the game. I cant even get the game downloaded and to run. PLEASE HELP!

Handbanana
04-03-2013, 01:54 PM
can i get some help? The patcher for my pc keeps on just redownloading the game. I cant even get the game downloaded and to run. PLEASE HELP!

contact support, or uninstall the patcher /reinstall it and try again.

Nipper
04-03-2013, 01:55 PM
can i get some help? The patcher for my pc keeps on just redownloading the game. I cant even get the game downloaded and to run. PLEASE HELP!

Vista or Windows 7? Try running the patcher as ADMIN aka right click on it and use the run as.

Lasse B
04-03-2013, 02:01 PM
Increasing the Timer Resolution may (doesn't have to) have negative side effects.

Read the last paragraph under "Remarks":
http://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/windows/desktop/dd757624%28v=vs.85%29.aspx


If you do this, I think it might be a good idea to also raise the priority of the Defiance process.

Gigachip
04-03-2013, 02:10 PM
ok, now that I'm back from class I can say that my lowest so far (aside from what I mentioned earlier) was 59 fps, highest being 108fps
average I was getting was 75-83fps

Rullingsen
04-03-2013, 03:30 PM
Increasing the Timer Resolution may (doesn't have to) have negative side effects.

Read the last paragraph under "Remarks":
http://msdn.microsoft.com/de-de/library/windows/desktop/dd757624%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

The effects all depends on your CPU, you will either get performance boost, or you will have no effect at all ingame. If your windows gets choppy or something while having 50 applications open when activating the program you can close it and it goes back to default settings. Nothing will catch on fire or blow up. In most cases people will see an increased fps increase. Not everyone have FPS increase either, the game will just feel smoother and less choppy.

Some have low-end computers with mid-end CPU's (basically high end CPU's will have no effect with Timer resolution in most cases and it also depends on the game coding). Timer resolution starts the call when the game (application) starts and ends. Alot of games are poorly optimized and simply wastes CPU and timer resolution "fixes" the "gap", kinda (to simplyfy things). It basically decreasing the wieght time between your CPUs actions. So basically this boosts your GPU performance as well (with small margins)!

So, don't scare people away from atleast trying it (i'm not flaming) because there are so many people with low end mid end computers/CPUs that needs the extra "boost".

But yeah. Always be cautious no matter what third party software you use that tempers or alters settings etc.

Imfamy
04-03-2013, 04:05 PM
turning off motion blur,bloom and shadows will help to increase FPS lag.


intel i7 3770k @ stock
Nvidia gtx 680 @ stock
16 gig ram @1866mhz
2x ocz vertex 3 ssd 120gb

v1ctor
04-03-2013, 04:21 PM
turning off motion blur,bloom and shadows will help to increase FPS lag.


intel i7 3770k @ stock
Nvidia gtx 680 @ stock
16 gig ram @1866mhz
2x ocz vertex 3 ssd 120gb

motion blur and bloom have almost no impact on framerate.

Carsfanatic
04-03-2013, 05:04 PM
AMD 8350 @ 5GHz
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
32mb 2133 G.Skill memory
2x EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 680
2x YAMAKASI 300 SPARTA S-IPS 30inch 2560x1600 60hz
Rosewill Thor Case
Water cooled CPU

I run at max FPS for my monitors.

Sorry all you AMD haters I see in the thread anyone that ever posts about an AMD CPU of any kind always gets put down in some way over it. When you compare it to any intel CPU on the same ram/video card and close motherboards at most it loses 1-10 fps most and all others it is tied or blows the intel away.

I have an Intel Core i7-3960X rig and sad to say since my 8350 OC's better it runs Defiance better. Price vs performance no brainer there. Same cooling same ram same video cards same monitors everything the same other than the motherboard of course hard to ever buy an overpriced Intel again.

Dixa
04-03-2013, 05:16 PM
i7 2600
8gb ddr3
msi lightning 680 gtx
regular old platter hard drives
60 fps everywhere. never more (because the client doesnt support my 120hz monitor) and never less unless i try to run bandicam or fraps as the client is a bit cpu heavy.

little odd seeing someone run the game at 1024x768. if that's your best resolution you are in desperate need of an upgrade.

Lasse B
04-03-2013, 05:33 PM
The effects all depends on your CPU, you will either get performance boost, or you will have no effect at all ingame. Actually slowing your applications is another possibility.


Timer resolution starts the call when the game (application) starts and ends. While an adjustment of the timer resolution may be implemented in such a way that it activates when a certain program is detected, any changes to the timer resolution are system-wide. They affect all applications and Windows itself.


Alot of games are poorly optimized and simply wastes CPU and timer resolution "fixes" the "gap", kinda (to simplyfy things). I don't know if games are to blame if the developers don't want to mess with the workings of Windows. There is no precise timer in Windows per default that the developers could make use of. So they either opt for the imprecise ones, or attempt to write a precise one on their own.


It basically decreasing the wieght time between your CPUs actions. So basically this boosts your GPU performance as well (with small margins)! Sleeping inside loops of a program is necessary so that a program doesn't claim all the processing power for itself when it's not needed. Some developers choose to use 1ms as a parameter for the sleep function, others use 10ms. The default imprecise Windows timer this is based on however varies between 12ms and 16ms. That means that even 1ms per default gets "downgraded" to something between 12ms and 16ms. If you now change the timer resolution to 1ms, then yes, a program with sleep(1) now will sleep for a shorter time than 12 to 16ms. That is when you do indeed see an improvement in how fast that program runs. If however the developers of a program went with sleep(10) or something even higher, you'll hardly notice an improvement.

What also happens when you increase the timer resolution is that the process scheduler of Windows is working more frequently. The process scheduler is the boss of everything, it decides what process and what thread runs on which CPU core and how long they are ran until the next process or thread gets its share of your CPU's processing power. It may come as a surprise to those of you who kept reading until now, but no process in Windows runs continuously. Every process is executed for a short amount of time and paused again. It happens so fast we slow humans don't notice it. But it is necessary to seemingly be able to run several programs at once.

What happens now if the thread scheduler is invoked more often is that it runs and pauses processes and threads more often. Since it requires processing time for itself to decide on which CPU core to put processes and how long to run them, there's actually less time to actually run those processes and threads.


So, don't scare people away from atleast trying it (i'm not flaming) because there are so many people with low end mid end computers/CPUs that needs the extra "boost".I'm not trying to scare away people, I'm merely pointing out that and why there may be adverse effects when using this tool or similar ones. Of course everybody is encouraged to try things out. It's part of the PC experience ;)

I'm currently experimenting with the timer resolution function myself, luckily not needing to pay AUD 10,-. It has a positive effect for what I need it for (somewhat precise sleeps), but it looks like it has no effect on the game in my case.

Phixsator
04-04-2013, 10:26 AM
Seems my performance has gone up after a few tweaks through RadeonPro. Sitting roughly now between 55ish to 100ish using Medium preset with Motion blur off(because I hate that effect more than anything else). Specs are the same per my first post. Also using SweetFX through RadeonPro really does a lot for this game in terms of looks. Check this link out http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/285/ for some awwsome screenies of the difference.

Doublespeak
04-04-2013, 10:31 AM
I am playing on High setting with shadows, motion blur and v-sync on. Game runs perfectly smooth with no hiccups and I get a consistent 60 FPS.

Specs:
Windows 8 Pro
i5 2500k clocked @ 4.3 GHz
8GB DDR3 1600
Nvidia GTX 670 2GB vram using latest drivers
Game installed on a SSD

Yup runs great for me as well at about the same fps

I-7
GTX 550 ti, newest driver whatever version that is
Windows 7 - 64 bit
4 GB of RAM

LordAGUNI
04-04-2013, 12:57 PM
I always play DEFIANCE @ 30-40 FPS, yeah my CPU is bottle necking, but it never reaches the 80% of usage and my GPU it's always at 30-40%, If I can play almost any game at high settings @ 1920x1080 why I can't play this in the same way?
One thing that I noticed is that when the game load part of the map it have a heavy drop of FPS so maybe it's better install it in a SSD . . . ?

WIndows 7
CPU Athlon II X2 @ 3.44 (Unlocked from an AMD single core @ 2.7 stock)
GPU XFX HD 6870
RAM 8 GB Corsair Vengance
HDD SATA II 150 GB

SparX
04-05-2013, 04:33 AM
Intel i5 2400
8gb Ram
2 - GTX 580 1.5 gb SLI

Running at high settings 5760x1080 on triple monitors. Capped at 60fps. Forces my monitors into 60hz.

Octaval Acorn
04-05-2013, 05:12 AM
So the fact is a lot of us are having issues with performance. But instead of making a complain thread I think we should pool up with our specs and drivers and FPS count to see if we can figure out how much we can do ourselves to remedy this problem.

For AMD GFX users I would recommend using RadeonPro to force the ingame vsync OFF, as it doesn't seem to be possible through the Catalyst Control Center.

My Specs
AMD FX8350 @ stock
Crossfired 7950 @ stock 925 (factory oc), Catalyst 13.3 beta 2 (works like a charm in any other game)
16 gigs of Kingston HyperX Beast @1866
OCZ Vector 256gb SSD, with win 8 pro(fully updated) and the game installed on.
120hz Samsung s950 monitor 1920x1080
850w XFX Proseries XXX PSU

Performance is not good for me, the biggest sinner is the shadows and the forced vsync. with everything turned on I get anywhere from 25ish to 60 in an empty area out in nowhere land. Also the game feels very chuggy or stuttering most of the game.

Please do not post a simple "the game runs fine here" comment as it does not help in any way or shape. If the game is running as you want it to please include specs and driver version of the gfx drivers you have installed, including ingame settings and an fps count and where it was taken as a minimum.

Please tell me how to actually get the client to force Vsync off....I cannot for the life of me get RadeonPro to finish the job. I have selected Vsync OFF in both the Tweaks AND Visual tab with no effect.

FizzyMyNizzy
04-05-2013, 06:28 AM
nvm
/10char

CptBadger
06-25-2013, 04:35 PM
Optimization is rather horrible. As expected from a shoddy console port.

CPU usage sits at 30% and both my GPUs are at 30-40% each.

With that I drop to 25 fps at major arkfalls.

So there is no scaling whatsover with Crossfire, and the game can't use multicore CPUs at any efficient manner.

Ataraxia
06-25-2013, 05:13 PM
I run defiance at a steady 55-60fps most of the time. The frame rate drops drastically when playing in some of the instanced bunkers though, it can drop down to 27fps at times. The game is always playable though.

Here are my specs (yeah it's a laptop, don't hate I travel a lot, lmao):

CPU: Intel Core i7-3610QM @ 2.4ghz
G-card: Nvidia Geforce GTX 670M / 3GB GDDR5
RAM: DDRIII 12GB (4GBx3)
HDD: 750GB @7200rpm

I play at max settings, 1920x1080 resolution.

Billy Guile
06-25-2013, 05:21 PM
i maintain 50-60 fps. wish it would go higher. battlefield 3 pumps out some obnoxious numbers for me.

CptBadger
06-25-2013, 07:09 PM
i maintain 50-60 fps. wish it would go higher. battlefield 3 pumps out some obnoxious numbers for me.

I am VERY sceptical about your claim. Are you really getting 50 frames per second during a major arkfall ?

If that is the case, please post a screenshot with a framerate counter on (use fraps) during a major arkfall with more than 20 people around.

Also, what is your rig ?

Switches
08-16-2013, 08:22 PM
Uhm... I know this thread is 2 months dead, but I have a question. I just installed RaedonPro and I have an issue. I created a new profile for Defiance and set the Vsync to "always off." On the other hand, I have CCC on as well. Am I suppose to disable CCC?

Setting up a Defiance profile doesn't give me any performance boost, the framerate is still capped at 60FPS.

WARDUKE
08-16-2013, 09:03 PM
Win 8 x64
AMD APU 3800
6Gig


Not a single issue with the game for me. Run on highest setting no problem.

Iceberg
08-16-2013, 10:12 PM
I have some issues, normally player models not loading until I am right up on them (Major ark falls) and if my back is turned when an enemy spawns as I try to turn around quickly the game stutters a tiny bit. As of right now though I can't even play thanks to Microsoft and their botched patch.

Orbital
08-17-2013, 12:34 AM
I have pretty much everything turned up and my rig is old, I do have to go to the task manager and set my defiance.exe process priority to low which makes a world of difference. I also have SweetFX turned up a bit as well.

1920x1200 on a 22" Samsung SyncMaster 2433bw
ATI Radeon 4870
AMD 6400+ Black edt. 3.2ghz dual core
4GB Gskill DDR2 800 memory
Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe Mobo
1.5TB Seagate and a 250GB Seagate

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/Orbitalz/Defiance/2013-08-17_00001.jpg

Billy Guile
08-17-2013, 12:40 AM
I am VERY sceptical about your claim. Are you really getting 50 frames per second during a major arkfall ?

If that is the case, please post a screenshot with a framerate counter on (use fraps) during a major arkfall with more than 20 people around.

Also, what is your rig ?

lol, ok. when i can get back on the game, i will.

VicousBlood
08-17-2013, 04:08 AM
Don't forget bandwidth and ping/latency have a bigger role in MMO's than ordinary shooters which also affects framerates. As soon as players get near you, the server is sending your client all that/those player(s) data as you are sending them yours. As well as calcultions made on the server for each players damage on different or same mobs, what they are hitting, location,...in short a lot of data. All of this ESPECIALLY on an mmo can greatly affect framerate as well. I have a massive system myself I'm not gonna post specs here cause everyone always wants screenshots or homevids to back up what I'm spitting out and frankly I'm tired of doing/making those especially since I update hardware once a year. I have no doubts to Billy's claim.

Uploaded framerate vid, used fraps for fps counter, recorded with MSI Afterburner
Resolution: 2048X1536
Net Connection Type: Satellite Average Latency to server 110-150 20mbit Down 10Mbit up
All Graphic Options On
Vertical Sync FORCED OFF THROUGH NVIDIA DRIVER
MSI Afterburner at that resolution drops my framerates by 30-50 FPS. It' why in the video you will see no fps lag/jitter difference between 50 FPS to when fraps calculates it as low as 27 FPS it will still look as smooth as glass and it played that way even while recording. Average FPS with recording OFF is 55+ in heavy populated arkfalls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkaCVI_mEBo

May reupload another video, youtube made that one ridiculously blotchy.