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cary2010haha
05-25-2014, 02:23 AM
and don't ask other player not to use cloak if you use auto sniper and slugger in PVP games

lucky i join a PVP game without auto sniper and slugger, and i use it(weak one, mag+ mag rolls as i use it for PVE not PVP)

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497125455/D8FB1154FDAF003770DD18F2F579A4162B096B45/

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497538816/06E2C49E6990ACBEBD42B5D868F5CD6D6C7EE4B0/

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497574321/73CCC4085F1A0769DD6E8B102CE6BC0E08BD9ABF/


this means pro?
you don't use bmg and others use bmg to kill you, they are ****?
you don't use cloak and others use cloak to kill you, they are ****?
you use slugger and auto sniper kill others that don't use them, means you pro?

O~ ya i love use full auto weapon only so I can't have a gd PVP game in defiance, because this game have very few type of weapon can work effectively in PVP, and none of them are full auto weapon.


and i don't understand whats the different between slugger and low ego bmg's one mouse click kill ? A(special to those no nano 1-2 body shot kill sluggers)

And don't say you aim for head every hit, fk off, use a wolfhound in PVP and see can you got so many headshots?

duction
05-25-2014, 03:53 AM
and don't ask other player not to use cloak if you use auto sniper and slugger in PVP games

lucky i join a PVP game without auto sniper and slugger, and i use it(weak one, mag+ mag rolls as i use it for PVE not PVP)

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497125455/D8FB1154FDAF003770DD18F2F579A4162B096B45/

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497538816/06E2C49E6990ACBEBD42B5D868F5CD6D6C7EE4B0/

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/486699290497574321/73CCC4085F1A0769DD6E8B102CE6BC0E08BD9ABF/


this means pro?
you don't use bmg and others use bmg to kill you, they are ****?
you don't use cloak and others use cloak to kill you, they are ****?
you use slugger and auto sniper kill others that don't use them, means you pro?

O~ ya i love use full auto weapon only so I can't have a gd PVP game in defiance, because this game have very few type of weapon can work effectively in PVP, and none of them are full auto weapon.


and i don't understand whats the different between slugger and low ego bmg's one mouse click kill ? A(special to those no nano 1-2 body shot kill sluggers)

And don't say you aim for head every hit, fk off, use a wolfhound in PVP and see can you got so many headshots?

I don't get you? Are you bragging or talking about the bmg glitch that got fixed?

ironcladtrash
05-25-2014, 05:28 AM
I don't get you? Are you bragging or talking about the bmg glitch that got fixed?

He's talking about how ridiculously OP the slugger is now. When they tried to balance it awhile ago they went too far and it went from being one of the worst guns to better then the rest. Almost as bad as the Surge Bolter fiasco.

The only problem I have with Semi Auto snipers is that there is no reason to use a bolt action now.

ConcreteSnake
05-25-2014, 05:51 AM
Slugger has natural 2.0 crit mult tho and high damage. They made an unusable gun wonderful.....cary tho? Can't fix that.

Lucent
05-25-2014, 06:07 AM
I haven't used it in PvP, but the Slugger/Wanyu is really fun out in the world.
It's not OP anymore than any other one-shot weapon. Less OP than sawed-offs because you have to have slightly better aim.

Maybe we are congratulating you?
Congrats on a good round!

ironcladtrash
05-25-2014, 06:11 AM
I haven't used it in PvP, but the Slugger/Wanyu is really fun out in the world.
It's not OP anymore than any other one-shot weapon. Less OP than sawed-offs because you have to have slightly better aim.

Maybe we are congratulating you?
Congrats on a good round!

It's a lot worse than the sawed offs. The slugger has far range with little to no fall off, a good fire rate, and you can keep shooting if you miss because you don't have to reload after each shot. Also it's super easy to aim so it's not likely you'll miss anyway.

cary2010haha
05-25-2014, 06:55 AM
It's not OP anymore than any other one-shot weapon. Less OP than sawed-offs because you have to have slightly better aim.




you sawed-off can do 40K damage pre shot(2 shot)?





It's a lot worse than the sawed offs. The slugger has far range with little to no fall off, a good fire rate, and you can keep shooting if you miss because you don't have to reload after each shot. Also it's super easy to aim so it's not likely you'll miss anyway.

yes, slugger's aim adj is totally glitched, those slugger pvper can't get 1/3 kills if they change to wolfhound(which has more damage to headshot and 3 times fire rate)

and they keep saying other player who use cloak as nub, who don't cloak if they get 1-2 hit kill in every range? if they said change to auto sniper and slugger yourself------wat's the different as

bmg glitcher tell you use bmg,
infector(before nerf) tell you use a infector?
plasma pulser user tell you use a plasma pulser ?

konstantinov
05-26-2014, 09:07 PM
you sawed-off can do 40K damage pre shot(2 shot)?


I have a heavy sawed off scattergun prepatch that's nanoless that is doing 32400 dmg per slug with a 10 round clip and shoots as fast as a 0.0 zagger.

Deunan
05-26-2014, 09:31 PM
It's a lot worse than the sawed offs. The slugger has far range with little to no fall off, a good fire rate, and you can keep shooting if you miss because you don't have to reload after each shot. Also it's super easy to aim so it's not likely you'll miss anyway.How does a slug combat shotgun like the FRC Auto-Scattergun compare?

EDIT: Doesn't have the same crit multiplier so not as good.

cary2010haha
05-26-2014, 10:07 PM
How does a slug combat shotgun like the FRC Auto-Scattergun compare?

FRC Auto-Scattergun is bad if it's compare to slugger, FRC Auto-Scattergun don't have headshot aim adj , 2 times crit bouns, and FRC Auto-Scattergun's falloff range is short.....



I have a heavy sawed off scattergun prepatch that's nanoless that is doing 32400 dmg per slug with a 10 round clip and shoots as fast as a 0.0 zagger.

i can put 5-6 roound full damage slugger rounds to your head before your heavy sawed-off run into it's full damage range.

and heavy saw-off have no crit bouns.

just like the pre-patched glitch low ego bmg, you can acturlly 1 hit kill them in short range, but the truth is you'll never success to get so close without cloak.

konstantinov
05-26-2014, 10:09 PM
i can put 5-6 roound full damage slugger rounds to your head before your heavy sawed-off run into it's full damage range.

and heavy saw-off have no crit bouns.

just like the pre-patched glitch low ego bmg, you can acturlly 1 hit kill them in short range, but the truth is you'll never success to get so close without cloak.

It's a stalker and I just use it to piss people off. I figure it's a good break from all the cankers/boomers

Deunan
05-26-2014, 10:10 PM
FRC Auto-Scattergun is bad if it's compare to slugger, FRC Auto-Scattergun don't have headshot aim adj , 2 times crit bouns, and FRC Auto-Scattergun's falloff range is short.....Wait are you saying it auto assists aiming to the head? O.o

What is the falloff range for a Slugger?

cary2010haha
05-26-2014, 10:13 PM
Wait are you saying it auto assists aiming to the head? O.o

What is the falloff range for a Slugger?


nearly no fall off, if you can hit a target, it do enough damage to kill him

cary2010haha
05-26-2014, 10:25 PM
It's a stalker and I just use it to piss people off. I figure it's a good break from all the cankers/boomers
stalker only add very little range (EG if your sawed-off do full damage at 10m, with stalker bouns just have 10x(1+0.15)=11.5 M)


canker is bad......only gd is it have adj aim with long range(32M)

duction
05-26-2014, 11:25 PM
Lol yea the scailing on this thing is crazy too! One shot kill with the assisted aim!!!!!

Pandur
05-27-2014, 12:46 AM
PVP in Defiance is still completely broken after the BMG fix ? I'm really shocked!

ironcladtrash
05-27-2014, 08:16 AM
How does a slug combat shotgun like the FRC Auto-Scattergun compare?

EDIT: Doesn't have the same crit multiplier so not as good.

Looks like you and Cary have it figured out because I really didn't know. I dont think I ever used the FRC Auto-Scattergun, never liked slug shotguns much before.

Maybe we can get Kiwi to pass this thread up to the devs to take a look at what happened and what is wrong with sluggers now.

MagnusRune Daltus
05-27-2014, 10:36 AM
i use a sword and VBI AR for PVP with bio nade, blur, damage spike and brawler stim. as i find it more fun, and usually do quite well.