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jesseisabeastt
08-13-2014, 10:28 AM
All you guys ever do is complain?! I see people complaining its to easy to level now, and you use to have to 'Grind' to level up. And thats what theyre trying to do. Theyre trying to brind that grining element back to defiance. They want us to grind for OJ weapons, and make scrip actually worth something and make us think about what we spend scrip or forge on. Theyre OJ (Legendary) for a reason, meaning you dont get them often.

All over forums all i see is people who want zagger or ARK shield from every lock box, 1million scrip for there whites and 200 arkforge per arkfall. THATS BROKEN.

I played for maybe 3 hours yesterday. I got 50 keycodes, about 25 or so forge and an OJ Zone Arkfall drop. Not lagging out even once. And im more than content with that. All im saying is if they took your guys ideas, everybody would be running aound with 00 zaggers and wildcat switches. With respark regen arks. And a backpack full of OJs. And your 'ponys' would be worth nothing. This game barely has variety now, and you want even higher drops?

Flank
08-13-2014, 10:32 AM
So you are complaining about complainers?
Seems productive.

jesseisabeastt
08-13-2014, 10:34 AM
Indeed it is

Iceberg
08-13-2014, 10:43 AM
I'll make a deal, when Trion stops then I will stop.

bigguy
08-13-2014, 10:48 AM
Most people dont care so much about value as they do getting an item they can have fun with and thier complaints are now i have what i want to have fun in the game and your nerfing it , These are legitimate complaints. I believe you care more about value after all how can you ask someone to "make an offer" if the market is flooded with good items.
Also your exagerated complaint is not productive.

Deunan
08-13-2014, 10:48 AM
It is still easy to level up. They only fixed the xp scaling for weapon skill xp. Unless they did a ninja change which they have said they would no longer do, they haven't done anything to xp scaling for EGO grid perk points which are the largest source of EGO rating points and are acquired much faster since 1.5 went live.

Most Legendary weapons are unimpressive so the claim that you shouldn't get them as often as we used to has no merit. The only guaranties you get with a Legendary is a slight boost in damage compared to an Epic or Rare version and the additional Legendary rarity bonus stat, but if the other rarity stats are sub par, it will be outperformed by an Epic or even a Rare weapon of the same type with better rarity bonus stats. That should never happen in a non-dysfunctional loot system but it does in this game.

Everyone was not running around with Zaggers and Wildcats before they nerfed PvE event rewards into the ground so that argument is also baseless.

Your narrow experience of the game doesn't mean that the game hasn't been suffering serious latency issues since F2P went live on the PC servers. It is factual and acknowledged by the devs themselves so I don't even know why you would make such a pointless statement.

Kyosji
08-13-2014, 10:49 AM
Well, SOMEONE walked into an angry mob without actually knowing why they were mobbing about in the first place.

What you are assuming we are all complaining about is just a very small portion of the whole. Sure, they dropped the amount of keys that dropped, that's fine. I actually have nothing against that. Yes, a legendary should actually BE legendary. You're missing the big picture here, man (or woman). The types of items that drop are nearly all garbage rolls. there is nearly no real upgrade option for higher EGO players but to either tough it out with extremely under leveled, under powered weapons, or spend an outrageous amount of money at the cash shop. To top it off, when you do buy things like keys or lockboxes, your chance of a usable weapon is abysmal. The developers have been telling us one thing, and delivering us another. You can't trust the word of Trion half the time. Those are some of MY issues, but there are other people on here with their own. I've don't hundreds of events, and killed many many thousands of NPCs since this patch. My drops are 10% of what they were pre-patch, and I have yet to actually find any real weapons I can use. I'm stuck, currently, using weapons that are 1,000 ego below me because I can't find anything to replace them with. It gets tough at that point to play a game they make abundantly clear has become a 'pay-to-progress' game, especially when I originally bought the game retail and actually invested in inventory slots. It feels like the company is laughing at me to my face and expecting me to give them more of my money with a smile. It's pathetic.

Again, those are some of MY beefs with the company, others have their own.

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 10:55 AM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

Kyosji
08-13-2014, 10:57 AM
How many bits is that?

Flank
08-13-2014, 10:58 AM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

Seems reasonable. :cool:

edispilfnairb
08-13-2014, 10:59 AM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

Troll.........LMAO

crazyged
08-13-2014, 11:00 AM
I do wish that people could be a bit more selective about their complaints.

Trion tends to do a blanket nerf that affects a ton of other weapons that really didn't need it.

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 11:00 AM
Troll.........LMAO

You just need to buy scrip boosts available via the bit store.

edispilfnairb
08-13-2014, 11:01 AM
You just need to buy scrip boosts available via the bit store.

Lol still wouldnt get past 999,999,999

Kyosji
08-13-2014, 11:07 AM
Lol still wouldnt get past 999,999,999


You have to purchase the "unlock extra digit in Scrip counter" from the bit store. 1500 bits, it's a steal!

JadedSinn
08-13-2014, 11:09 AM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

ur selling urs for 8B i was selling mine for 10B o.o hell iv even starting throwing away Ojs to random people in my clan o.o hmmmm the way the world turns sad so sad.

cmpowell
08-13-2014, 11:09 AM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?
considering the OP this is probably more of a viable point than trolling

ironcladtrash
08-13-2014, 12:02 PM
I may need to start my own meta thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints.

N3gativeCr33p
08-13-2014, 12:05 PM
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4083/5055032357_69d1d1be72.jpg

Copperpot
08-13-2014, 12:13 PM
It is still easy to level up. They only fixed the xp scaling for weapon skill xp. Unless they did a ninja change which they have said they would no longer do, they haven't done anything to xp scaling for EGO grid perk points which are the largest source of EGO rating points and are acquired much faster since 1.5 went live.

Most Legendary weapons are unimpressive so the claim that you shouldn't get them as often as we used to has no merit. The only guaranties you get with a Legendary is a slight boost in damage compared to an Epic or Rare version and the additional Legendary rarity bonus stat, but if the other rarity stats are sub par, it will be outperformed by an Epic or even a Rare weapon of the same type with better rarity bonus stats. That should never happen in a non-dysfunctional loot system but it does in this game.

Everyone was not running around with Zaggers and Wildcats before they nerfed PvE event rewards into the ground so that argument is also baseless.

Your narrow experience of the game doesn't mean that the game hasn't been suffering serious latency issues since F2P went live on the PC servers. It is factual and acknowledged by the devs themselves so I don't even know why you would make such a pointless statement.

I've noticed that you are a very patient person. Well done.

TASHINKA
08-13-2014, 12:14 PM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?no, because Potato

Copperpot
08-13-2014, 12:15 PM
no, because Potato

For konstantinov-

http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Archer-Cooks-Some-Potatos-While-Having-Deep-Thoughts.gif

DEATHBRINGER210
08-13-2014, 12:27 PM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

seems legit carry on

TalynOne
08-13-2014, 12:41 PM
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/13404/hammer-time-o.gif

fighterpilot04
08-13-2014, 12:56 PM
...in the name of love

Lillith Valerian
08-13-2014, 02:14 PM
I've noticed that you are a very patient person. Well done.

Most of the time he's on target, too. I don't have quite the patience.

Getting really tired of off-the-boat newbs who don't have a clue what year-and-a-half vets (who have been playing non-stop) have gone through, much less have any real idea what the problems are, and complain about the complaining. Meta-textual stuff just gets old.

There's no reason to fold a situation over and stuff it up its own @ss. It doesn't accomplish anything.

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 03:39 PM
...in the name of love

xhrBDcQq2DM

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 03:55 PM
ur selling urs for 8B i was selling mine for 10B o.o hell iv even starting throwing away Ojs to random people in my clan o.o hmmmm the way the world turns sad so sad.

I have some ~decent OJ's though. Replacing what I've collected would take quite a while.

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:23 PM
Is this because I'm selling my OJ's for 8 billion scrip?

Cheep at twice the price!

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 04:24 PM
Cheep at twice the price!

Compared to the bit store it's a

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Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:27 PM
I may need to start my own meta thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints.

I would support such a thread.

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 04:29 PM
I would support such a thread.

I'd take a gander at such.

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBkiBbO4_4

Deunan
08-13-2014, 04:31 PM
I may need to start my own meta thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints.If you do that someone will just start a thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints about all the complaining about the game.

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 04:33 PM
If you do that someone will just start a thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints about all the complaining about the game.

I get motion sickness if I spin around too much.

Atticus Batman
08-13-2014, 04:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBkiBbO4_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu8KFlfzk3Y

konstantinov
08-13-2014, 04:35 PM
If we stop the videos now we can forego the Rick rolled video.

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:37 PM
If you do that someone will just start a thread to complain about the complainers complaining about the complaints about all the complaining about the game.

Yea, then it ends up like this and Kon throws up.

http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag464/lenzdude/giphy1_zps3aa5bea7.gif

dramaQkarri
08-13-2014, 04:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ

DeadEye68
08-13-2014, 04:39 PM
I get motion sickness if I spin around too much.

Anyone got a barf bag ?

Atticus Batman
08-13-2014, 04:40 PM
If we stop the videos now we can forego the Rick rolled video.

Stop the Video?! Never!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrUvu1mlWco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx5tSmOY_iM

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ

I won't click it 'cause I know that link by heart.

dramaQkarri
08-13-2014, 04:41 PM
I won't click it 'cause I know that link by heart.

OMG you've memorized YOUTUBE? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eidetic memory much?

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:43 PM
OMG you've memorized YOUTUBE? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eidetic memory much?

Oh my no, I have just used it a bit now and then.

TriGlav 2000
08-13-2014, 04:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBQVrCflZ_E

dramaQkarri
08-13-2014, 04:48 PM
Oh my no, I have just used it a bit now and then.

Oh stop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

DeadEye68
08-13-2014, 04:55 PM
Oh stop...

12 minutes good enough ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_vKWcEtcs

Crasharr
08-13-2014, 04:56 PM
only now found out there were more posts, i got caught off guard by that video with that chick with her jiggling belly... i ccouldnt stop watching... its hypnotic. Gonna watch again

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 04:59 PM
Oh stop...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

I'm not too proud to admit I was a bit afraid of that link. It turned out good though.

dramaQkarri
08-13-2014, 05:00 PM
I'm not too proud to admit I was a bit afraid of that link. It turned out good though.

It's AWESOME my fave band ever. My first music I ever fell in love with as a kid. Still feels good to hear it too =D

Vega
08-13-2014, 05:11 PM
          

Bonehead
08-13-2014, 05:39 PM
http://edublogs.misd.net/theskinny/files/2013/05/stop-chicken-160l5fe.jpg

BlackTalons
08-13-2014, 05:51 PM
Hammer time!

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/980226/hammertime-o.gif

Copperpot
08-13-2014, 06:05 PM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1353729280/h834DD94B/

Copperpot
08-13-2014, 06:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3x7URWDGI3U

N3gativeCr33p
08-14-2014, 06:06 AM
Nobody bothered to mention this classic? Color me verrr disappoint. lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwI02OHtZTg

430005
08-14-2014, 06:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNRphySWOfE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiSDFhQ_1XY

Last video: NSFW & does not work if you do not have a subwoofer turned to maximum.



Ha! Why complain at all? I make facetious threads mocking people who complain.

Unless your thread has over 2k+ views or some decent arguments, I'm not even going to read it.


Still brings pain to my butt and a tear to my eye :D
Fixed that for you. You know how it goes, don't feed the trolls.

Cyripax NeoPrime
08-14-2014, 07:04 AM
Most of the time he's on target, too. I don't have quite the patience.

Getting really tired of off-the-boat newbs who don't have a clue what year-and-a-half vets (who have been playing non-stop) have gone through, much less have any real idea what the problems are, and complain about the complaining. Meta-textual stuff just gets old.

There's no reason to fold a situation over and stuff it up its own @ss. It doesn't accomplish anything.

This right here. +1 ....its frustrating for us that have been playing since day1 and test phases b4. Weve put a lot of time AND Money in a game that has totally changed its core promise and done nothing but stab us in the back every step of the way. 1 step forward, 10 back.

still. Im not about to quit playing. I somehow still manage to have some degree of fun with it. I had high hopes for the game and show and wont lie. I enjoy both. Its a love hate relationship some ppl will never understand.

konstantinov
08-14-2014, 09:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBQVrCflZ_E

Did anyone notice that they all have the same haircut?

Iceberg
08-14-2014, 12:46 PM
Did anyone notice that they all have the same haircut?

Was it in the 80's?

adrokier
08-14-2014, 12:52 PM
All you guys ever do is complain?! I see people complaining its to easy to level now, and you use to have to 'Grind' to level up. And thats what theyre trying to do. Theyre trying to brind that grining element back to defiance. They want us to grind for OJ weapons, and make scrip actually worth something and make us think about what we spend scrip or forge on. Theyre OJ (Legendary) for a reason, meaning you dont get them often.

All over forums all i see is people who want zagger or ARK shield from every lock box, 1million scrip for there whites and 200 arkforge per arkfall. THATS BROKEN.

I played for maybe 3 hours yesterday. I got 50 keycodes, about 25 or so forge and an OJ Zone Arkfall drop. Not lagging out even once. And im more than content with that. All im saying is if they took your guys ideas, everybody would be running aound with 00 zaggers and wildcat switches. With respark regen arks. And a backpack full of OJs. And your 'ponys' would be worth nothing. This game barely has variety now, and you want even higher drops?

Problem is when only few Players have Zagger or ARK others complaining bout advantage of those Gamers and so Trion will may be nerf every "good" weapon. .. so why not higher drop rate for those Weapons ? U need to buy the purple Mods and u need the right Mastery ... everybody wud do this pleasure cos its a good Deal... they wud buy Mods and AF to reset Mastery until they have a nice one ^^

Then its more fair in PVP and PVE ^^ so on the way to 5000 everybody shud get a non encrypted Zagger Purple QM and HP7, HP6, good Boomer ... this shud be granted from my point of view ... Zagger is really good and sometimes really needed ...

I m not talking bout tons but 3 really really good Weapons shud be granted to way to 5000...if u play over year u will get an Ark Shield for sure (Respark) but I never ever received a Zagger QM .. a friend traded it to me ... and u need a Weapon with Speed Boost .. I have seen Boomers with double Speed Boosts ... on Reload (Mastery) and Purple on a Kill ... and u need a Boomer round 34K DMG with OJ Mods for sure ... u need that ... Mods u can farm by getting cores but good Weapon Drop Rate for everybody when reaching or in between from 2000-5000 shud be granted and wud be fair... think bout

konstantinov
08-14-2014, 01:53 PM
Problem is when only few Players have Zagger or ARK others complaining bout advantage of those Gamers and so Trion will may be nerf every "good" weapon. .. so why not higher drop rate for those Weapons ?

ARK shield are intended to be rare, hence the bonus stat increase. People will always have an advantage over you. Trion will not increase the drop rate for Zaggers nor ARKs I can guarantee that.


U need to buy the purple Mods and u need the right Mastery ... everybody wud do this pleasure cos its a good Deal... they wud buy Mods and AF to reset Mastery until they have a nice one ^^

Purple mods are nice but they're not necessary.


Then its more fair in PVP and PVE ^^ so on the way to 5000 everybody shud get a non encrypted Zagger Purple QM and HP7, HP6, good Boomer ... this shud be granted from my point of view ... Zagger is really good and sometimes really needed ...

Worst idea ever. There's no welfare in Defiance. What's there to be fair about in PvE? Nothing is "needed" to play this game other than time and dedication.


I m not talking bout tons but 3 really really good Weapons shud be granted to way to 5000

No they shouldn't.


if u play over year u will get an Ark Shield for sure (Respark)

You're not guaranteed to pull anything regardless of how long you've played the game. RNG is RNG, deal with it.


but I never ever received a Zagger QM .. a friend traded it to me ...

That's cool, he must have been a good friend to give you a QM Zagger.


and u need a Weapon with Speed Boost .. I have seen Boomers with double Speed Boosts ... on Reload (Mastery) and Purple on a Kill ... and u need a Boomer round 34K DMG with OJ Mods for sure ... u need that ...

Speedy feet is nice but it is not needed for any aspect of this game. A boomer with 34k DMG is on the lower end of boomers.


Mods u can farm by getting cores but good Weapon Drop Rate for everybody when reaching or in between from 2000-5000 shud be granted and wud be fair... think bout

Defiance isn't a market where you go in a pick exactly what you want. Your definition of fairness is beyond ridiculous.

Bonehead
08-14-2014, 02:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJnfhYCC-Bo