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ProJH
09-12-2014, 07:34 PM
http://i60.tinypic.com/287nbpc.jpg


This thread contains show-off. Add your best weapon's stats picture here.
I'm starting with my own. It was a epic canker. I made it legendary because of It's fire rate and I got more fire rate which is cool.

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To make a comment, add a photo.


http://i59.tinypic.com/359iur6.jpg

Z0mb13
09-12-2014, 07:57 PM
My Tachmag, got it at rare with the three reload rolls, upgraded it to epic to see if I could be lucky to get the correct roll (yay me!), upgraded to legendary and got the damage roll. Granted on reload effects are now rather tame, this is still an awesome SMG.

http://i57.tinypic.com/30w9i0j.png

Psycroww
09-13-2014, 03:33 AM
How do you screenshot your weapons? I'd love to post mine and I'll edit mine in when I figure it out :)

3183beowulf
09-13-2014, 03:43 AM
My...Precious

crazyged
09-13-2014, 04:08 AM
My...Precious

...and mine...

Just need decent mods!

http://www.crazyfool.co.za/gifs/needler.jpg

Infinity Eagle
09-13-2014, 06:30 AM
Wolfhound and Needler

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/Defiance2014-09-1309-25-45-95_zps58e1e977.png

garrett53
09-13-2014, 06:39 AM
Needler u say

http://i.imgur.com/bUSvTNK.png

Sychs
09-13-2014, 08:24 AM
Perforator n Wolfhound

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TripleSixSVK
09-13-2014, 08:28 AM
A couple of my best weapon.

http://images.megaupload.cz/Sumimoto.png http://images.megaupload.cz/VBI_EEC_SMG.png

http://images.megaupload.cz/Springer.png http://images.megaupload.cz/Inagaki.png

http://images.megaupload.cz/FRC_Scattergun.png http://images.megaupload.cz/Wolfhound.png

PiccolaRivolta
09-13-2014, 09:19 AM
Well I don't know either how to make a full weapon screenshot...

hiban
09-13-2014, 04:59 PM
Perforator n Wolfhound

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OMG! how much do you want for that wolfhound? I'd give you all my monies and many weapons, too.

Here is my wolfhound:
http://i.imgur.com/EdQi0kN.png

satirized
09-13-2014, 05:54 PM
OMG! how much do you want for that wolfhound? I'd give you all my monies and many weapons, too.

Here is my wolfhound:
http://i.imgur.com/EdQi0kN.png

canonner is better then assassin.

Xaat Xuun
09-13-2014, 07:32 PM
unless I do cut & paste (which I didn't do here) I cannot get a full screen shot of all the stats.
I have to scroll and take a second screen shot, and paste the missing portion. it wasn't always like that, used to see the whole sheet.

here be just the legendary's, I use more Rares and Epics. a couple of those I'm just holding till my alt can start using 'em

Dunno if they be the best, but I really like 'em

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http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/XaatXuun/Legendarylist_zps12b14020.jpg

crystal030405
09-13-2014, 07:48 PM
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=132_r=Legendary_e=_s=10_me=_b=55;10;57;34;87_ego =5053_mod=910;968;954;1062_mas=163.jpg





http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=8_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=3_me=_b=55;2;61;17; 74_ego=5200_mod=944;955;919;930_mas=154.jpg

Chump Norris
09-13-2014, 08:18 PM
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=118_r=Legendary_e=_s=11_me=_b=55;10;59;16;108_eg o=5500_mod=927;909;1073;1060_mas=0.jpg

My Bloodhound (they arent that great anymore but I like the rolls)

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=240_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=25_me=_b=55;10;59; 18;74_ego=5500_mod=0;0;0;0_mas=0.jpg

This is a nice Bloodhound I upgraded from blue but traded it to a friend.

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=240_r=Legendary_e=Syphon_s=25_me=_b=55;10;57;17; 87_ego=5500_mod=0;0;0;0_mas=121.jpg

Some DLC favorites of mine.

Clusterdrop Detonator - Quartermaster

Needler - Bio - Cannoneer

Springer - Bio - Cannoneer

Proliferator - Quartermaster

Proliferator - Cannoneer

BC001
09-14-2014, 10:40 AM
How do you screenshot your weapons? I'd love to post mine and I'll edit mine in when I figure it out :)

I usually do it with FRAPS or Raptor. FRAPS is a pay thing but Raptor is free if you have a video card that supports it (and you are lucky enough that it actually installs and works).

TalynOne
09-14-2014, 01:34 PM
How do you screenshot your weapons? I'd love to post mine and I'll edit mine in when I figure it out :)

If you play the game through steam, the default screenshot key is F12. You can then upload the screenshot to your steam cloud account or re-upload the image to imgur.com and imgur.com has online editing tools to crop just the weapon portion of the screenshot.

Anyways, my Wolfhound:

http://i.imgur.com/lXoUr2n.jpg?1

Chump Norris
09-16-2014, 12:25 AM
Gonna add another I like.

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=28_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=4_me=_b=55;11;61;2 0;87_ego=5400_mod=0;0;0;0_mas=0.jpg

Wurm
09-16-2014, 01:42 AM
No BMG love? :p Well I'll do it then. I love this thing.

http://s28.postimg.org/5hy9kyunx/BMG.jpg

NeuroticHitman
09-16-2014, 05:46 AM
Just a few of my monsters...


http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=10_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=1_me=_b=55;2;61;17 ;74_ego=5505_mod=472;751;904;1055_mas=154_name=The Inferno.jpghttp://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=179_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=21_me=_b=55;2;61; 18;74_ego=5600_mod=944;955;1070;1059_mas=121.jpg

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=200_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=22_me=_b=72;10;57 ;20;89_ego=5600_mod=1093;1087;1070;1059_mas=121.jp ghttp://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=36_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=14_me=_b=55;2;61;1 7;74_ego=5450_mod=914;940;908;938_mas=125.jpg

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=88_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=6_me=_b=55;2;61;17; 87_ego=5600_mod=914;940;908;1054_mas=154.jpg
^^Crit isn't displaying correctly...I think it's 7.2x^^

...and I don't have an image for it, but my most prized shield is:
RESPARK ENERGIZER V ARK

WannV
09-16-2014, 06:59 AM
here's my small scale "lmg"
http://i.imgur.com/e8H9KVr.jpg

Edit: i'm looking for a purple mod for pistol with grenadier synergy and crit multiplier PC/EU

satirized
09-16-2014, 10:50 AM
I have yet to see the best weapon in defiance as predicted by mathematics. A lot of this stuff really dont deserve to be here. Like every assault rifle.

toggy321
09-17-2014, 06:06 AM
here's some of my favorite guns....
http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q691/mtoggy/guns_zps83f22626.jpg

J8 Sky
09-23-2014, 09:46 PM
I have the most enjoyment playing Defiance with this gun. Love to see a bunch of mobs (even elite) launch off into the sky with every reload. normally paired with a Perforator or fire Wolfhound.

http://forums.defiance.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7707&d=1411533680

I've had 10 mag assassin boomers but the damage & mag stack didn't work quite as well as the quick reload time. with the right perks you can keep overcharge up indefinitely in some sieges and most Arkfalls.

RAGEFIGHTER
09-23-2014, 10:52 PM
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=317990529

first is defiant feew crimefighter second vot pulser before trion nerfed it it had over 2k damage

PiccolaRivolta
09-24-2014, 08:09 AM
I have the most enjoyment playing Defiance with this gun. Love to see a bunch of mobs (even elite) launch off into the sky with every reload. normally paired with a Perforator or fire Wolfhound.



I've had 10 mag assassin boomers but the damage & mag stack didn't work quite as well as the quick reload time. with the right perks you can keep overcharge up indefinitely in some sieges and most Arkfalls.

How can it be that much damage? 21% damage from the mod + oj roll, an ego 5.500 boomer is ~27.000 base damage + 21% would be ~32.000. Missing something?

J8 Sky
09-24-2014, 09:23 AM
How can it be that much damage? 21% damage from the mod + oj roll, an ego 5.500 boomer is ~27.000 base damage + 21% would be ~32.000. Missing something?

Sorry I don't know the answer to that, i just capture the pic from my inventory. The boomer wasn't dropped as OJ.
I've had this boomer since around 1500 Ego started out as a rare, upgraded to Epic around 3000 Ego , than upgraded again to OJ before i hit 5000 Ego .

Psycroww
09-24-2014, 12:03 PM
Hopefully this worked uploading the pictures, not fully modded yet but they are my babies. Got so lucky to get them.
http://s21.postimg.org/8u8p0fyja/WEAPONS.jpg

SirServed
09-24-2014, 01:06 PM
How can it be that much damage? 21% damage from the mod + oj roll, an ego 5.500 boomer is ~27.000 base damage + 21% would be ~32.000. Missing something?
Overcharge may have been active when he took the screenshot.


I've had 10 mag assassin boomers but the damage & mag stack didn't work quite as well as the quick reload time. with the right perks you can keep overcharge up indefinitely in some sieges and most Arkfalls.
8 is the optimal mag size for a Big Boomer. You can't lay more than 8 sticky grenades of any sort without the oldest ones detonating prematurely. Let's assume you even used a T5 reload mod: You'd be able to reload 3 at a speed of 0.75 seconds as opposed to 8 at the speed of 1.5 seconds. For every grenade you have in your mag after 6, you're going to spend less time on reload cycles which increases your potential DPS.

ironcladtrash
09-24-2014, 03:11 PM
Overcharge may have been active when he took the screenshot.


Hard to see for sure on the phone but I am pretty sure that is the Top Notch faction Big Boomer which has a higher base damage.

J8 Sky
09-24-2014, 03:50 PM
Overcharge may have been active when he took the screenshot.


8 is the optimal mag size for a Big Boomer. You can't lay more than 8 sticky grenades of any sort without the oldest ones detonating prematurely. Let's assume you even used a T5 reload mod: You'd be able to reload 3 at a speed of 0.75 seconds as opposed to 8 at the speed of 1.5 seconds. For every grenade you have in your mag after 6, you're going to spend less time on reload cycles which increases your potential DPS.

Overcharge was not active, maybe it's the Perforator ?.

Referring to "math DPS" This may be true for most single target weapons, detonator's DPS is for muiti-target (but everyone already knows that). so did you forget that the boomer only hits when you reload it, or is that just your play-style, off-loading 8 mag than detonating it when all the mobs are already killed by other players. If it's solo, than even more so you don't need more than 3 rounds, everything dies in 1-2 hits. If for PvP, reload time is even more important. for manual detonators, PvE DPS = shooting & reloading at the exact moment with most mobs within the blast radius (perk+%30 damage/mob within blast), which in most occurrence is with-in the time frame of 1-2 sec (1-4 round), and the ability to re-shoot again quickly.

Detonator mag size changes the reload time if you reload while mag is not fully empty, which means reloading 4 rounds out of 8 mag takes longer than 4 rounds out of 12 mag with the same reload speed. so no, 8 is not optimal, it all depends on player's play-style.

this is getting off-topic , i will stop replying to this post.


Edit:

Actually, Detonator reload speed is percentage based. I sent you a PM explaining why.
It's faster to reload 3 of 8 with 1.5 reload speed than it is to reload 3 of 3 with 0.9 speed.Reload what ? :confused: can you activate perks by reloading 3 of 8 ?

Ok, since you will not drop the subject and insist on PM'ing me , i will type it out in layman's term for you to understand, why a 3 mag Big Boomer with a reload time less than 1 sec is most useful in PvE.

My 0.9 sec reload time when reloading one round will become 0.3, with reload speed perks it can be as low as 0.1 sec. the reload time is so low that it over laps the slow fire rate of the Boomer (ever used zagger?). By doing this, what do you have? a "Crash Boomer" that has a 43 round magazine, blast radius and damage of a Big Boomer. press the overcharge and throw down an ammo spike, now you have a "Flaming Big Bad LMG Nuker" that hits Crts for 100+ rounds.

So why 3 mag only, why not 2 ,4 or 5 mag with a reload mod? with 2 mag reload time will be even longer, since 1 out of 2 mag already hits the 2nd stage of reload time (%50). 4 mag is pretty good, will have the same reload time when reloading 1 mag, but you'll have to spend 1 more ammo every time you want to activate a "on full reload perk". so it's preference when playing with large groups, but if used on low TL mobs (mobs die in 1-2 shots) it will be a pain to activate the full reload perks. also you will be restricted to one choice of rolls which is .95 and .90 reload, +2 mag. For the 5 mag Boomer, pretty much the same but longer reload and even more pain to activate full reload perks.

Flaming Big Bad LMG Nuker Loadout link on Defiance Data:
http://www.defiancedata.com/loadout.php?id=27

SirServed
09-24-2014, 04:15 PM
Actually, Detonator reload speed is percentage based. I sent you a PM explaining why.

It's faster to reload 3 of 8 with 1.5 reload speed than it is to reload 3 of 3 with 0.9 speed.

badbat111
09-24-2014, 07:53 PM
get a bmg and volge pistol both combined is a beast shame i cant get the volge gun orange :(

Altras
09-25-2014, 03:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BwHoEAf.jpg (http://imgur.com/BwHoEAf) http://i.imgur.com/8jyxaNG.jpg (http://imgur.com/8jyxaNG) http://i.imgur.com/FG0RH0P.jpg (http://imgur.com/FG0RH0P) http://i.imgur.com/cslv1Ze.jpg (http://imgur.com/cslv1Ze) http://i.imgur.com/lfi5eYf.jpg (http://imgur.com/lfi5eYf) http://i.imgur.com/mcvX0AU.jpg (http://imgur.com/mcvX0AU)

Chump Norris
09-25-2014, 08:10 PM
I finally got this:

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=129_r=Legendary_e=Syphon_s=19_me=_b=55;2;61;16;8 7_ego=5600_mod=0;0;0;0_mas=0.jpg

Would loved to have had it prior to consumable grenades.

otonagamer
09-26-2014, 06:48 AM
here's my small scale "lmg"
http://i.imgur.com/e8H9KVr.jpg

Edit: i'm looking for a purple mod for pistol with grenadier synergy and crit multiplier PC/EU
Wow. This is my dream weapon. Isn't this even better than Wolfhound? I'm sure this will beat any Springer. Don't you prefer stabilizer stock then melee stock?

Tallon
09-26-2014, 06:56 AM
Wow. This is my dream weapon. Isn't this even better than Wolfhound? I'm sure this will beat any Springer. Don't you prefer stabilizer stock then melee stock?
Wolfhound can be found with MUCH higher crit muti. That is what counts when using it for certain purposes. Being a semi-auto also allows to conserve ammo better. While the VOT Blaster shown is fun, it's no longer usefull if your out of ammo.

Lubber
09-27-2014, 05:49 AM
LOL.
Jackpot items, now with a discount! Just for 2,298 scrip! :D
Are you still buying T4 boxes? ;)

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Xaat Xuun
09-27-2014, 02:13 PM
LOL.
Jackpot items, now with a discount! Just for 2,298 scrip! :D
Are you still buying T4 boxes? ;)
1st . . nice, did you pick up a couple for your Non-DLC friends, or to sell
2nd . . that's not a Jackpot item

Lubber
09-27-2014, 02:29 PM
1st . . nice, did you pick up a couple for your Non-DLC friends, or to sell
2nd . . that's not a Jackpot item

1) My low EGO toon found it and it fits "her" great. Until "she" is waiting EGO 5400+ for the legendary double crit Wolfhound from my main toon.
2) Yes, I know it is not a Jackpot (got it for my main toon), but looks almost the same in case of crit mult and synergy.

EpicValor
09-27-2014, 02:33 PM
What does it mean to reroll a weapon, and what happens when you do?

ProJH
09-27-2014, 02:37 PM
What does it mean to reroll a weapon, and what happens when you do?

It's a showcase thread. Not for your questions. Share a picture to make comment.

Lubber
09-27-2014, 02:38 PM
What does it mean to reroll a weapon, and what happens when you do?
As I get it, it means to reroll weapon mastery bonus for mastered weapon. The mastery bar goes empty again and you get another mastery bonus after filling it back.

My precious, for those who need pictures:
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JEMINAI
09-27-2014, 06:41 PM
The Spanner Trapper with +2 Links, oodles of range and Damage increase. added benefit of healing.
this is great for Blur builds, 1 quick zap to stop a player to a snails pace then a follow up finisher.
old favorites like using target-able objects and npcs to beam around corners to keep those pesky slugger users at bay.
handy for supporting allies in a pinch.

The 7th Legion Gashima - a pretty standard grenade launcher of course but take a look at that velocity. 200% means you will be lobbing these things out of the park. you would have to get used to using it though as it behaves totally different than any launcher without the velocity.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RxIuVwStbt8/VCdl5QLvJ1I/AAAAAAAA1eY/ziPxmIoBnvo/w346-h520/Trapper%2BwackyGL.png

Lubber
09-29-2014, 06:07 AM
The Spanner Trapper with +2 Links

As I recall "trapper" do not link. Does it mean that +2 Max Link make it to tag three targets (1+2)?

PiccolaRivolta
09-29-2014, 06:22 AM
As I recall "trapper" do not link. Does it mean that +2 Max Link make it to tag three targets (1+2)?

Spanner trapper links and make poop shoes, for a damage decrease downside. Only Tele-spanner does not link.


Anyway I'm still trying to figure out how to make a full screenshot of a weapon....

duction
09-29-2014, 08:10 AM
That's right, let them know what to nerf next lol

Lubber
09-29-2014, 08:32 AM
Spanner trapper links and make poop shoes, for a damage decrease downside. Only Tele-spanner does not link...
Yeah, the latter has it in the description, so I was frustrated :confused: when I didn't see linking for Trapper when used it to raise the skill for my toon. Maybe mine was broken. :D
̶T̶h̶a̶n̶k̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶m̶i̶s̶t̶a̶k̶e̶.̶

Update: Just found and used another Trapper - also do not link. Also broken, eh?

PiccolaRivolta
09-29-2014, 08:33 AM
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Xaat Xuun
09-29-2014, 10:18 AM
I need to get new Screen shot of my Alt's Headshot Bolter, that is one kick *** Bolt action rifle

Brindled
09-29-2014, 01:11 PM
EDIT: I'm going to preface this post with my further calculations that appear to be greatly in favor of the rate of fire Pulsers. DPS is greater when second by second is considered versus clip by clip, but not far behind over time where critting is concerned. Also, I added PiccolaRivolta's Hogleg, Z0mb13's VOT Tachmag Pulser, TripleSixSVK's Castithan Springer, and SirServed's VOT Needler for comparison. I understand this comparison is subjective with my VOT Pulser as the reference point. The reference point being 1 clip compared with the other smg's in its relative category. I did not compare the long bodied smg's.



http://i.imgur.com/4ptSgRx.jpg
I've been wondering how my vanilla VOT Pulser stacks up against some DLC smg's, and if my calculations are correct they aren't far apart. My Pulser in 1 clip (~7.1 seconds) would get 270,175 direct damage and 702,455 if all bullets land critical damage. I used several types offered in this thread for my sample comparisons.
However my "best" weapons would be these

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In the time it takes me to unload 1 clip versus PiccolaRivolta's Hogleg, you can unload almost 2 (including reload time) clips. Again, if my calculations are right you'd get 316,000, that's 2 clips (~6.7 seconds) at 158,000, direct damage (non-crit), 530,880 crit damage if all bullets landed crits (hip crit % towards crit multi factored in). So, it would seem vanilla Pulsers can do almost if not as much damage as the DLC variants, and if this is correct the P2W argument isn't true for these high DPS weapons. All things considered, all weapons so far linked could have better rolls.

I understand timing can be crucial in getting kill shots, but in the grand scheme of things it seems to be splitting hairs. Any input regarding my calculations or assumptions would be greatly appreciated. Now, I'm also not considering PvP, but I'd like input regarding that if anyone cares to elaborate.


My Tachmag...7727
Z0mb13's VOT Tachmag Pulser's output from calculations reaches these numbers: 2 clips (~7 seconds) 410040 direct damage and 655064 critical damage if all bullets land critically.


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TripleSixSVK's Spring does 239,841 direct damage/ 383,746 crit damage



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SirServed's VOT Needler does 397,440 direct damage/ 635,904 crit damage.

Edit: added T4 mods to my Pulser giving it higher crit damage per clip output

SirServed
09-29-2014, 02:25 PM
You're comparing your Pulser to the wrong weapon. You would have to compare a VOT Pulser to a Castithan Springer. You'd want to compare your Hog Leg to a VOT Needler. DLC2 weapons have the best SMGs and Automatic Pistols in their classes. Here's my Dynamic Duo:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Sirserved/VOTNeedler.jpg~original http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Sirserved/Quickshot.jpg~original

Brindled
09-29-2014, 02:36 PM
At the risk of incurring ProJH's wrath, I just want to point out that your Needler pumps out in one clip (~3.11 seconds), 198,720 dmg noncrit/365,644 crit) what my Pulser deals, 117,791 dmg/294,478, in the same amount of time. The DLC weapons do seem to be a good bit stronger. I do understand the differences between the smg types. I was just pointing out their general DPS comparisons, and my error was looking at the long term and not the short term (DPS).


You're comparing your Pulser to the wrong weapon. You would have to compare a VOT Pulser to a Castithan Springer. You'd want to compare your Hog Leg to a VOT Needler. DLC2 weapons have the best SMGs and Automatic Pistols in their classes. Here's my Dynamic Duo:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Sirserved/VOTNeedler.jpg~original http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv22/Sirserved/Quickshot.jpg~original

In general terms of DPS, why I initially was stating per 1 Pulser clip is it would be sustained DPS for 6.4 seconds. Any of the variants that have a fire rate that is almost double will have to reload causing anywhere from 1 to 1.5 seconds of no DPS and another full clip to match the plain Pulser's output. Of course, you could argure they're different guns, but I'm trying to compare general DPS, which if you compare second by second shows the obvious differences. However, over time the plain Pulsers aren't really that far behind but indeed are.

Xaat Xuun
09-29-2014, 04:59 PM
here's that Headshot Bolter
when hip shooting this thing, it feels like it is shooting as fast as the slowest auto sniper

too bad about the synergy that came with it,
And it can only get better, only have green mods in it now

,



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http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii601/XaatXuun/Headshot1046_zpscec4c2f8.jpg

JEMINAI
09-29-2014, 05:43 PM
As I recall "trapper" do not link. Does it mean that +2 Max Link make it to tag three targets (1+2)?

yup +links makes it 3 in this case. very efficient. also shows the cloakers ofc.
I don't believe I have seen a tele spanner with +links though.

J8 Sky
09-29-2014, 06:08 PM
yup +links makes it 3 in this case. very efficient. also shows the cloakers ofc.
I don't believe I have seen a tele spanner with +links though.

They do, but more rare, green +1, OJ +2
but if you get the green +1 link, it will suck because you can't have 0 or -2 damage charge.
(-2 actually reloads while you do damage, in the scenario that you used some charge for healing)
personally i think Tele with 0 damage charge, +2 OJ link is awesome. well, that is if i ever get bored enough to use a BMG.

Snowclan
09-29-2014, 07:31 PM
The formula for sustained damage per second is fairly simple.

Multiple the base damage of the weapon by the clip size. That gives you total damage per clip.
Divide the clip size by the fire rate. Add the reload time. That gives you the time to fire a full clip and reload.
Divide the total damage per clip by the time it takes to fire a full clip and reload.

Multiply the total damage per clip by the critical rating if you're wondering what the gun would do if you could crit with every shot. Otherwise the formula remains the same.

A Vot Needler with cannoneer is a veritable engine of destruction.

Chump Norris
09-29-2014, 07:46 PM
This is my Tele-Spanner

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=40_r=Legendary_e=_s=16_me=_b=79;27;171;20;95_ego =5550_mod=0;0;0;0_mas=128.jpg

Its the best Tele-Spanner ive seen yet.

Lubber
09-30-2014, 05:42 PM
The formula for sustained damage per second is fairly simple.

Multiple the base damage of the weapon by the clip size. That gives you total damage per clip.
Divide the clip size by the fire rate. Add the reload time. That gives you the time to fire a full clip and reload.
Divide the total damage per clip by the time it takes to fire a full clip and reload.

Using this formula any FRC Sub-Carbine is better than VOT Needler. Even that from the page 4 with absurd accuracy rolls and without mag booster mod is almost the same as the above mentioned Needler with T5 mods. Simple maths.

arekesh
09-30-2014, 05:45 PM
Using this formula any FRC Sub-Carbine is better than VOT Needler. Even that from the page 4 with absurd accuracy rolls and without mag booster mod is almost the same as the above mentioned Needler with T5 mods. Simple maths.

The FRC shoots in bursts, you have to account for dead time.

J8 Sky
09-30-2014, 07:39 PM
The FRC shoots in bursts, you have to account for dead time.

yes, and the burst drops it from 18 fire rate to about 13.2 ( my test results land from 12.9 to 13.4 , sorry only human. fingers don't click the same on every test run)

Snowclan
09-30-2014, 10:44 PM
Oops. Y'all are correct, the formula I posted doesn't work with guns that fire bursts.

seckmeth
10-01-2014, 10:51 PM
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i9i
11-19-2014, 07:18 PM
Vot Needler - 31.2 Fire Rate
http://www.ladda-upp.se/tumnagel/nbtykphetuxlt/ (http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/nbtykphetuxlt/)
Hog Leg - 31.2 Fire Rate
http://www.ladda-upp.se/tumnagel/gpzpywzzzawsxc/ (http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/gpzpywzzzawsxc/)

Lubber
11-23-2014, 09:24 PM
Vot Needler - 31.2 Fire Rate
http://www.ladda-upp.se/tumnagel/nbtykphetuxlt/ (http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/nbtykphetuxlt/)
Hog Leg - 31.2 Fire Rate
http://www.ladda-upp.se/tumnagel/gpzpywzzzawsxc/ (http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/gpzpywzzzawsxc/)

Nice for PvP, I guess.
As for PvE... Second and a half of shooting, than second for reload... Half of bullets missing targets, after every 30 seconds of shooting (where 10 seconds went for reloads) - 30 seconds for rushing for ammo crate and back...

King Stud
11-23-2014, 10:13 PM
The whole point of SMGs is a high dps weapon that kills fast. If I wanted a sustained DPS weapon I'd use a SAW. It's also why OJ mag rolls are so dreaded on SMGs. Anyways, here're my weps:

http://i.imgur.com/JjOGKbI.jpg

The Hellfire tachmag has great accuracy and virtually no recoil. The accuracy rolls also allowed me to outfit a commando scope instead of a stabilization sight, making this gun highly effective at all ranges. I call it my "hellfire laser" :D.

The bonfire is just plain fun to use with all the speed perks. Been trying to combo it with a sword in PvP with limited success. Now I'm on the hunt for a legendary EEC smg to combo with my sword, PM me if you have any to sell :P

SirServed
11-23-2014, 10:29 PM
Nice for PvP, I guess.
As for PvE... Second and a half of shooting, than second for reload... Half of bullets missing targets, after every 30 seconds of shooting (where 10 seconds went for reloads) - 30 seconds for rushing for ammo crate and back...
In defense of the Needler, he mods his poorly. Can't blame misses on the weapon. I personally rarely need ammo crates since enemies killed rain down ammo.

ArthriticNed
11-24-2014, 12:23 AM
Yeah, the latter has it in the description, so I was frustrated :confused: when I didn't see linking for Trapper when used it to raise the skill for my toon. Maybe mine was broken. :D
̶T̶h̶a̶n̶k̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶m̶y̶ ̶m̶i̶s̶t̶a̶k̶e̶.̶

Update: Just found and used another Trapper - also do not link. Also broken, eh?


Trappers DO NOT link to adjacent targets unless said trapper has +max links roll/rolls.


If icould add pics people's laptops and phones would fry from drool.:p

Lubber
11-24-2014, 05:18 AM
1.
... I personally rarely need ammo crates since enemies killed rain down ammo...
So you need to run not for ammo crates, but for ammo drops - not a big change. The only event that has "ammo rain" are minor arkfalls, where all enemies are clustered in a small space so drops are covering the ground. But it is only my experience - yours may differ, so no way I am going to dissuade you from using it - it was just a note of possible flaws of a particular gun. Everyone may use any gun they are comfortable with. And I better stick with guns with better damage per bullet balance.

2.
... Trappers DO NOT link to adjacent targets unless said trapper has +max links roll/rolls...

Thanks, I've already figured that out when assumed this earlier.

As I recall "trapper" do not link. Does it mean that +2 Max Link make it to tag three targets (1+2)?

The post you've answered for was a trolling for the post quoted there, that compared Spanner Trapper with Tele-spanner.

Spanner trapper links and make poop shoes, for a damage decrease downside. Only Tele-spanner does not link.

3.
The whole point of SMGs is a high dps weapon that kills fast. What can be faster than one-shot kill of sniper rifle or shotgun? Seems you should get a better "whole point" for SMGs.

Psycroww
11-24-2014, 06:52 AM
79497950795179527953

Among the best weapons I currently have, here are a few of my favorites.

ColapsN7
11-24-2014, 07:12 AM
thx *CO., LTD 株式会社* LOVE :cool: Vot Needler - 31.2 Fire Rate
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Kosmiker
11-24-2014, 07:37 AM
From previous event I often kill with these:
7954

King Stud
11-24-2014, 09:56 AM
3. What can be faster than one-shot kill of sniper rifle or shotgun? Seems you should get a better "whole point" for SMGs.

A sniper rifle only kills in 1 hit if you're able to land a crit shot, and a shotgun if you're at very close range. A smg consistently kills fast at every range no matter where you hit.

You also didn't take in account threat levels. Ever get your threat level boosted to above your ego rating? Were you still able to one shot those mobs then?

Dixie Cougar
11-24-2014, 10:34 AM
A sniper rifle only kills in 1 hit if you're able to land a crit shot, and a shotgun if you're at very close range. A smg consistently kills fast at every range no matter where you hit.

You also didn't take in account threat levels. Ever get your threat level boosted to above your ego rating? Were you still able to one shot those mobs then?

Best weapon is still the nerf bat, watch out :P

Atticus Batman
11-24-2014, 08:51 PM
Best weapon is still the nerf bat, watch out :P

Hey NO nerfing this bat! You bully!!! What did I do to deserve a nerf?! :p:(

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-YPrf4Mz5M/TUmr2xD4MeI/AAAAAAAAADI/HcMDLH7vRYw/s1600/Bartok+the+Bat+III.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RNLInNJFJ8o/T0c552DbG6I/AAAAAAAAAzM/s6m2_Zh-rkY/s1600/anastasia+bartok.jpg

Tyber Paradym
01-01-2015, 07:30 AM
My Favorite Weapons. :) I am f2p..so no DLC to have those weapons...But, I think this line-up shows you can have some decent guns without paying for them. ;)
http://s9.postimg.org/u5g6ogaz3/Auto_Shotgun.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/rudj6jatr/Golden_Ring.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/8gcp6ujdb/Radiant_Pulser.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s9.postimg.org/u07u11ea7/Rebound_Lobber_grenadier.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/sz7lbwxan/slugger.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/wf4az7jwv/Spanner_protector_slicer.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s9.postimg.org/cdzyw966n/Spanner_Protector_cannoneer.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/e8herqikv/Turtle_dove.jpg (http://postimage.org/) http://s9.postimg.org/q05a2jd73/VOT_Fragger_brutal.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

http://s9.postimg.org/pyvc94bdb/VOT_Tachmag_bio.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
free image host (http://postimage.org/)

BenXFrank
01-01-2015, 09:50 AM
It's not modded to its best potential but here is what I use. (Glad to read some suggrstions!)

Warning: the following screenshot is in german :P

http://i.imgur.com/iP2fF83.jpg

Altras
01-01-2015, 08:27 PM
It's not modded to its best potential but here is what I use. (Glad to read some suggrstions!)

Warning: the following screenshot is in german :P



I'm only fluent in English, yet I found this easy to read. Cannonneer, accuracy,doublecrit, 25% stowed clip/kill, firerate.15%crit firing from the hip or from behind. My subconscious speaks German apparently.

King Stud
01-01-2015, 11:31 PM
Got a few more weapons since the last time I posted, so I thought I'd share. @BenXFrank, that's a very nice Hog Leg, I wish you were on PC-NA so I could buy it T.T

http://i.imgur.com/9CEkaiU.png
http://i.imgur.com/FoxDrx8.png
http://i.imgur.com/0khJCYT.png
http://i.imgur.com/dYrGN7H.jpg

Unfortunately, the tachmag pulser is at a higher lvl ego than I am so I can't use it atm. Time to grind....

Atticus Batman
01-01-2015, 11:36 PM
{SNIP}

Unfortunately, the tachmag pulser is at a higher lvl ego than I am so I can't use it atm. Time to grind....

Or you can spend the arkforge to batch downgrade to your level.

Impearlex
01-02-2015, 02:11 AM
Some of my weapons i normally use.
http://i.imgur.com/9KxRmr8.jpg

King Stud
01-02-2015, 02:25 AM
^thanks for revealing to me your weapon stats. now i that i know your secrets you'll never kill me again in PvP huehuehue

Jet1337
01-02-2015, 02:41 AM
The topic name is misleading. How are all of these guns the best in the game? Can someone make a list of the current best weapons in the game?

Xaat Xuun
01-02-2015, 05:00 AM
The topic name is misleading. How are all of these guns the best in the game? Can someone make a list of the current best weapons in the game?so you think the OP should add "Your" in front of 'Best' in the title ?

Soundtrack26
01-02-2015, 07:03 AM
so the Golden Ring is a pistol...i'll be getting another orange from this event tomorrow i hope its that.

Soundtrack26
01-02-2015, 07:09 AM
Or you can spend the arkforge to batch downgrade to your level.

i'v been wondering is downgrading bad in anyway, does it make the weapon worst then if you were to get it without DGing? (not sure how to word it right)

konstantinov
01-02-2015, 07:32 AM
i'v been wondering is downgrading bad in anyway, does it make the weapon worst then if you were to get it without DGing? (not sure how to word it right)

The damage of a weapon and capacity of a shield will scale down to match the ego you downgrade it to.

PS- most of these weapons are mediocre at best.

iFantastical
01-02-2015, 11:36 AM
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=3_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=4_me=_b=56;7;61;18; 87_ego=5606_mod=944;905;904;932_mas=125.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=3_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=4_me=_b=56;7;61;18;7 4_ego=5806_mod=944;905;810;932_mas=125.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=255_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=30_me=_b=55;2;91; 17;87_ego=5706_mod=944;905;904;932_mas=154.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=179_r=Legendary_e=Syphon_s=21_me=_b=56;7;61;17;8 9_ego=5600_mod=944;905;805;932_mas=125.jpghttp://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=34_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=14_me=_b=55;10;57;1 8;87_ego=5511_mod=1093;751;1070;903_mas=121.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=169_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=20_me=_b=72;10;17 3;17;74_ego=5600_mod=472;751;810;767_mas=137.jpght tp://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=259_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=30_me=_b=56;7;91; 17;87_ego=5508_mod=944;905;904;930_mas=121.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=132_r=Legendary_e=_s=5_me=_b=68;14;57;17;87_ego= 5711_mod=1097;969;954;1062_mas=141.jpg http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=120_r=Legendary_e=_s=1_me=_b=56;2;61;17;87_ego=5 632_mod=803;783;823;1065_mas=154.jpg

Chris Robet
01-02-2015, 06:02 PM
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=99_r=Legendary_e=_s=3_me=_b=55;169;59;36;74_ego= 5412_mod=1095;1084;1073;1061_mas=122.jpg
The stats on this are off he are the real stats:

DMG: 2949x8

Fire Rate: 3.0

Mag: 21

Reload: 2.6

Accuracy: 14.5

Bloom: 0.0

konstantinov
01-02-2015, 06:28 PM
Didn't bother including any named weapons.

Shields
5806 EXL Darkest Hour Firewall
5606 Ironclad Charger V ARK
5585 Respark Regen V ARK (had long before it was the jackpot)
5872 Rhino Charger V ARK
5636 Rhino Regen V ARK

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=40_r=Legendary_e=_s=29_me=_b=79;27;80;25;96_ego= 5656_mod=942;1137;918;916_mas=128.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=3_r=Legendary_e=_s=4_me=_b=72;10;57;18;87_ego=57 06_mod=944;723;878;1059_mas=121.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=8_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=3_me=_b=56;2;61;18; 87_ego=5501_mod=1093;905;827;1055_mas=125.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=132_r=Legendary_e=_s=5_me=_b=55;10;57;34;87_ego= 5806_mod=802;969;954;1062_mas=121.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=132_r=Legendary_e=_s=10_me=_b=55;14;57;17;87_ego =5846_mod=910;969;954;1062_mas=121.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=61_r=Legendary_e=_s=29_me=_b=55;5;70;34;87_ego=5 900_mod=802;969;948;952_mas=140.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=101_r=Legendary_e=_s=29_me=_b=55;10;59;17;102_eg o=5580_mod=974;782;939;967_mas=122.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=190_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=21_me=_b=84;2;81;2 0;87_ego=5806_mod=929;909;1073;1060_mas=121.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=190_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=21_me=_b=55;2;81;1 7;109_ego=5887_mod=929;909;877;1060_mas=122.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=97_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=19_me=_b=56;2;81;16 ;74_ego=5706_mod=929;909;877;1060_mas=159.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=231_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=11_me=_b=55;10;59; 17;87_ego=5585_mod=800;909;1073;1060_mas=141.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=257_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=30_me=_b=84;169;5 9;17;109_ego=5596_mod=929;909;933;911_mas=122.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=14_r=Legendary_e=_s=20_me=_b=10;20;107_ego=5569_ mod=801;788;1073;1060_mas=122.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=119_r=Legendary_e=_s=11_me=_b=55;10;59;17;107_eg o=5706_mod=801;788;933;1061_mas=141.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=122_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=6_me=_b=55;2;61;1 8;87_ego=5580_mod=803;551;962;959_mas=154.jpg

konstantinov
01-02-2015, 06:28 PM
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=134_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=29_me=_b=55;2;57; 17;88_ego=5591_mod=937;965;962;959_mas=156.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=28_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=4_me=_b=55;7;59;20 ;87_ego=5531_mod=945;955;904;903_mas=124.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=3_r=Legendary_e=Syphon_s=4_me=_b=72;2;61;16;89_e go=5636_mod=944;723;827;930_mas=147.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=43_r=Legendary_e=_s=9_me=_b=79;27;171;25;95_ego= 5821_mod=942;1137;918;916_mas=130.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=218_r=Legendary_e=Radiation_s=15_me=_b=55;2;61;1 8;87_ego=5708_mod=936;934;1067;1054_mas=121.jpg
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=3_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=4_me=_b=72;10;59;20 ;87_ego=5545_mod=472;723;904;767_mas=0.jpg

Jaydogg
01-02-2015, 06:38 PM
sorry no pics

5900 blackend hellfire fragger
4 t4s

+8 mag

+3 mag
.15 crit
.05 dmg
ego reload
.10 dmg

5900 frontier saw
hard boiled 4 t5s
bio

.75 recoil

.10 accy
.15 crit
.05 dmg
ego on crit
.10 dmg

Kuroro
01-02-2015, 06:49 PM
This is my best weapon that's not named

http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=260_r=Legendary_e=Incendiary_s=30_me=_b=72;10;57 ;18;87_ego=4955_mod=944;955;919;930_mas=156.jpg

crusheralpha
01-04-2015, 10:46 PM
Definitely my snapdragon my friend gave me! :)