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Rashere
09-17-2014, 04:04 PM
Just a head's up that we'll be swapping the jackpot in the T4 Lock Box from the Wildcat to a Respark Regenerator V ARK shield. This is on PTS right now and, barring any major issues, should go live next week.

More info here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1618785&viewfull=1#post1618785

Rashere

moof
09-17-2014, 04:09 PM
Just a head's up that we'll be swapping the jackpot in the T4 Lock Box from the Wildcat to a Respark Regenerator V ARK shield. This is on PTS right now and, barring any major issues, should go live next week.

More info here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1618785&viewfull=1#post1618785

Rashere

where are the patch notes regarding the adding of the defiant few recon gear helmet and outfit to the defiant few vendor?tomorrow is the latest it could be added,and time is quickly running out,my signature shows phantasies post where he promised it when the code expires

jay ellis
09-17-2014, 04:19 PM
Just a head's up that we'll be swapping the jackpot in the T4 Lock Box from the Wildcat to a Respark Regenerator V ARK shield. This is on PTS right now and, barring any major issues, should go live next week.

More info here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1618785&viewfull=1#post1618785

Rashere

You are definitely my favorite trion employee of all time. I only know you from your posts here, and this may be a little premature, but here it goes, I love you. Im gonna farm tier 4's till my fingers bleed. Jackpot is the best thing going, keep em coming.

moof
09-17-2014, 04:21 PM
You are definitely my favorite trion employee of all time. I only know you from your posts here, and this may be a little premature, but here it goes, I love you. Im gonna farm tier 4's till my fingers bleed. Jackpot is the best thing going, keep em coming.

one hit from a decent bolt action could collapse that,i suppose its ok if you want shield break perks

also,where is the missing helmet phantasie promised us

jay ellis
09-17-2014, 04:30 PM
one hit from a decent bolt action could collapse that,i suppose its ok if you want shield break perks

also,where is the missing helmet phantasie promised us

Its not for pvp, its the best shield for pve though.

hardy83
09-17-2014, 05:07 PM
If anyone gets this, please. I want it. I want a good regenerator shield. lol

Menov
09-17-2014, 06:41 PM
Just a head's up that we'll be swapping the jackpot in the T4 Lock Box from the Wildcat to a Respark Regenerator V ARK shield. This is on PTS right now and, barring any major issues, should go live next week.

More info here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1618785&viewfull=1#post1618785

Rashere

If the jackpot has to be a ARK shield, why not make it a rare dropped shield like the Ironclad Regenerator ARK and several others. Resparks drop more often than Ironclad or the Rhino Regen's.

I still liked that you chose a vendor weapon, for the first. I hope you return to this. Like the EMC Service Rifle, EMC Commando, Votan Pulser, Votan Auto Bolter, Big Boomer, Frontier Battle Rifle's, Frontier Saw or any Rare dropped gun. Please nerf the drop rate of the Jackpots. There are way to many Jackpot Wildcats out there for them to feel like you pulled something unique. If this was a Vegas casino, you would have went bankrupt due to the frequency the Wildcat dropped.

Chump Norris
09-17-2014, 07:05 PM
This will get me playing as much as I used to. Thank you so much Rashere!

EDIT: also as long as you don't listen to the previous poster and nerf drop rates I and many others will actually buy boxes for real money. This shield was a really good call :)

jay ellis
09-17-2014, 07:33 PM
This will get me playing as much as I used to. Thank you so much Rashere!

EDIT: also as long as you don't listen to the previous poster and nerf drop rates I and many others will actually buy boxes for real money. This shield was a really good call :)

Agree, +1, chump is right, bravo, ect,....

DEATHBRINGER210
09-17-2014, 09:14 PM
rhino regen ark pls

Amack
09-17-2014, 09:25 PM
EDIT: also as long as you don't listen to the previous poster and nerf drop rates I and many others will actually buy boxes for real money. This shield was a really good call :)

Grin, this made me giggle.

You are only going to spend money on the boxes if they don't nerf the drop rates? How will you know if they do? By admitting that you plan to spend money on boxes, doesn't that actually entice them to lower the drop rate?

Chump Norris
09-17-2014, 09:54 PM
Grin, this made me giggle.

You are only going to spend money on the boxes if they don't nerf the drop rates? How will you know if they do? By admitting that you plan to spend money on boxes, doesn't that actually entice them to lower the drop rate?

I would be putting faith in the teams claim of transparency. They have been living up to their word so far imo.

To make sure I actually answer your questions.

Q. You are only going to spend money on the boxes if they don't nerf the drop rates?

A. Yes

Q. How will you know if they do?

A. Hopefully they are honest and let us know they did it and why.

Q. By admitting that you plan to spend money on boxes, doesn't that actually entice them to lower the drop rate?

A. That would entice some people but I trust the current team to be honest if they nerf the drop rate.

DEATHBRINGER210
09-17-2014, 09:57 PM
they already nerfed the oj drops rates

Market
09-17-2014, 10:06 PM
they already nerfed the oj drops rates

I don't think that's accurate. Quite a while ago they actually increased the Legendary rates from T4 boxes. Not by much, but an increase is still an increase.

In the last five T4 boxes I've picked up, three of them included Legendary gear, and two of them had doubles. So, each of those two boxes contained two legendary items. It could just be luck that has you thinking they've lowered the rates. Since the recent changes to T4 boxes (weapons culled and guaranteed Epics) I've had much better luck getting Legendary gear. Hopefully your luck will pick up!!

Amack
09-17-2014, 10:11 PM
They are still a business Chump, be sure to keep that in mind.
We can forgive things they have done in the past, but we should never forget those things either.

Chump Norris
09-17-2014, 10:17 PM
They are still a business Chump, be sure to keep that in mind.
We can forgive things they have done in the past, but we should never forget those things either.

I totally agree. I can forgive but never forget :)

Xaat Xuun
09-18-2014, 02:23 AM
heh, the day I get a Jackpot item, will most likely be something I don't use or want

maybe I'll get me one on this round

crazyged
09-18-2014, 05:02 AM
Darn, I really wanted that Wildcat, but no luck.

Love Resparks, though - never leave home without one!

Lubber
09-18-2014, 06:22 AM
The problem is that there are different preferences for PvE and PvP.
While Respark (because of speed from zero to max, which means your health bar is protected from damage most of the time) and Regeneration (so your health bar come to max quicker yet it was damaged) is the best combination for PvE, the current state of PvP with tendency for one-shot kills demand high capacity (meaning PvP-players prefer Rhino or Ironclad) with some other bonuses.

PS. Already got my Wildcat, thanks. So this is the great news for me. The best shield I could dream of, cause I don't do PvP.

crazyged
09-18-2014, 07:48 AM
I'm going to hold off on lockboxes 'til the next jackpot - this respark doesn't really offer me anything I don't already have in my current shield.

Guns! I want guns!

drool...

taco man 67
09-18-2014, 08:23 AM
Just a head's up that we'll be swapping the jackpot in the T4 Lock Box from the Wildcat to a Respark Regenerator V ARK shield. This is on PTS right now and, barring any major issues, should go live next week.

More info here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1618785&viewfull=1#post1618785

Rasherewhat day will this begin good sir?

AllGamer
09-18-2014, 08:40 AM
i'm looking forward to more orange items, to meet that annoying Orange everything pursuit requirement for the last EGO pursuit

PhantasieTrion
09-18-2014, 09:29 AM
what day will this begin good sir?

Hi Taco

Assuming we find no issues with it internally (or on PTS), we plan to roll this change out in a server update on Tuesday Sept 23, or Wednesday, Sept 24. It will include some of the other bug fixes on PTS as well.

--Phantasie

Kobalobasileus
09-18-2014, 09:31 AM
Three things:

1. This jackpot Respark needs a nano resistance. I suggest Bio.

2. The drop rate on jackpots needs to be INCREASED not nerfed.

3. Respark is objectively the most useful shield. Why does everyone seem to be so in love with slow-arse Rhinos and Tachyons? When I got my Chimera Claw, I tried to use it in place of my older Respark, but found that the extra capacity disappeared just as fast and that the 6 second delay felt like eternity. I would never even consider a shield with a nearly 10 second delay.

Fuzzy
09-18-2014, 09:38 AM
Three things:

1. This jackpot Respark needs a nano resistance. I suggest Bio.

3. Respark is objectively the most useful shield. Why does everyone seem to be so in love with slow-arse Rhinos and Tachyons? When I got my Chimera Claw, I tried to use it in place of my older Respark, but found that the extra capacity disappeared just as fast and that the 6 second delay felt like eternity. I would never even consider a shield with a nearly 10 second delay.


It's an ARK shield, they CANNOT have a restiance.

Also, Ironclads and Rhinos are the best for PvP, not for PvE though. Agree with you there. Respark is my favourite shield.

Rashere
09-18-2014, 11:03 AM
I'm going to hold off on lockboxes 'til the next jackpot - this respark doesn't really offer me anything I don't already have in my current shield.

Guns! I want guns!

drool...

I'm in the process of adding jackpot weapons to the supply crates which follow the theme of those crates, so you'll have an option if you want it. Keep an eye on the PTS patch notes in the next day or two to see my first pass.

Rashere

Rashere
09-18-2014, 11:13 AM
The problem is that there are different preferences for PvE and PvP.
While Respark (because of speed from zero to max, which means your health bar is protected from damage most of the time) and Regeneration (so your health bar come to max quicker yet it was damaged) is the best combination for PvE, the current state of PvP with tendency for one-shot kills demand high capacity (meaning PvP-players prefer Rhino or Ironclad) with some other bonuses.

PS. Already got my Wildcat, thanks. So this is the great news for me. The best shield I could dream of, cause I don't do PvP.

I've been thinking about this. I need to delve deeper into Defiance PvP and the drivers there, but my experience has been that you basically need to treat PvP and PvE separately since they have different needs. Instead of trying to make a single item that works well for both (which tends to get you something that doesn't work well for either), it may be better to introduce new items and boxes that are built for PvP specifically.

Rashere

crazyged
09-18-2014, 11:19 AM
I'm in the process of adding jackpot weapons to the supply crates which follow the theme of those crates, so you'll have an option if you want it. Keep an eye on the PTS patch notes in the next day or two to see my first pass.

Rashere

Woohoo!

You just made me drool even more!

Maybe a wolfhound...? hint, hint!

Market
09-18-2014, 11:23 AM
I've been thinking about this. I need to delve deeper into Defiance PvP and the drivers there, but my experience has been that you basically need to treat PvP and PvE separately since they have different needs. Instead of trying to make a single item that works well for both (which tends to get you something that doesn't work well for either), it may be better to introduce new items and boxes that are built for PvP specifically.

Rashere

I think adding a box for this to the Echelon Vendor would likely make you a very popular guy... just throwing that out there! ;)

TremerChrist
09-18-2014, 11:55 AM
I've been thinking about this. I need to delve deeper into Defiance PvP and the drivers there, but my experience has been that you basically need to treat PvP and PvE separately since they have different needs. Instead of trying to make a single item that works well for both (which tends to get you something that doesn't work well for either), it may be better to introduce new items and boxes that are built for PvP specifically.

Rashere

The Echelon Vender is for PVP. Its never had any attention and is almost useless. Maybe a new synergy and a few new weapons would help a lot. If it had anything unique in it, I would play PVP just for the weapons.


Edit: Gave this a little more thought, maybe a three part backpack synergy. Call it Blindsided. Have it help with initial contact and only be active when shields are full. Would help a lot against all the one shot weapons in the game.

Blindsided
(1) 10% dam reduction when shield full
(2) 10% dam reduction when out of combat
(3) 25% speedy feet on shield break ( let this stack with the perk)

Now I don't do axlot of PVP, and biggest reason why is because of all the one shot weapons. Between the charge snipers, big boomers and sawed offs, there's really no tactics but shot first. If you survive the initial contact with a chance to counter attack, it could force a lot of players to change tactics.

Wurm
09-18-2014, 12:08 PM
The Echelon Vender is for PVP. Its never had any attention and is almost useless. Maybe a new synergy and a few new weapons would help a lot. If it had anything unique in it, I would play PVP just for the weapons.

Absolutely. Everything on that vendor is pretty much trash right now. I was thinking I'd get some weapons to help me PVP but I can get better on almost any of the other vendors which is sad.

richardkrainium
09-18-2014, 12:43 PM
id go with this

equalizer

(1) sensor sweep always active to counter cloak
(2) slowing effect always active to counter blur
(3) damage reduction to counter overcharge

Bar6arian
09-18-2014, 02:32 PM
I've been thinking about this. I need to delve deeper into Defiance PvP and the drivers there, but my experience has been that you basically need to treat PvP and PvE separately since they have different needs. Instead of trying to make a single item that works well for both (which tends to get you something that doesn't work well for either), it may be better to introduce new items and boxes that are built for PvP specifically.

Rashere

There is a PVP shield you can get. The Chimera Claw. If the Extra Life Vendor brings back it's shield, it will be the one most use I'd think because of the increased cap. This Respark is a great PVE shield and would be a nice addition to the collection.

SirServed
09-18-2014, 02:39 PM
3. Respark is objectively the most useful shield. Why does everyone seem to be so in love with slow-arse Rhinos and Tachyons? When I got my Chimera Claw, I tried to use it in place of my older Respark, but found that the extra capacity disappeared just as fast and that the 6 second delay felt like eternity. I would never even consider a shield with a nearly 10 second delay.
I will have to disagree. The Respark is good for beginners and players that do not engage in advanced usage of their EGO perks. In my experiences at TL10, the Respark users are hiding because their shields are broken or dead because it wasn't enough to take all the incoming love taps. I'm not here to derail the thread or convert you but I will state that larger shields do have merit. You will have to invest in the Detachment and Execution perks for it to work. My Rhino Berserker IV EX has 22203 capacity. A critical kill = 3330 capacity restored. Any kill in general grants me 3 armor plates for 3 seconds. In the event that my shield breaks, I gain 10% firing speed for 9.6 seconds or until I get a critical kill (or some person heals me with his BMG).

TL;DR Version: Hopefully after this one cycles, we Detachment and Execution users will see a Rhino Berserker V ARK go up.

Kobalobasileus
09-18-2014, 06:35 PM
I will have to disagree. The Respark is good for beginners and players that do not engage in advanced usage of their EGO perks. In my experiences at TL10, the Respark users are hiding because their shields are broken or dead because it wasn't enough to take all the incoming love taps. I'm not here to derail the thread or convert you but I will state that larger shields do have merit. You will have to invest in the Detachment and Execution perks for it to work. My Rhino Berserker IV EX has 22203 capacity. A critical kill = 3330 capacity restored. Any kill in general grants me 3 armor plates for 3 seconds. In the event that my shield breaks, I gain 10% firing speed for 9.6 seconds or until I get a critical kill (or some person heals me with his BMG).

TL;DR Version: Hopefully after this one cycles, we Detachment and Execution users will see a Rhino Berserker V ARK go up.

Nice veiled insult, there. In my experience, my Respark only fails me when I get multi-grenaded (Volge love to do this) and can't clear the blast radius in time. Execution is great... at low Threat Levels when getting critical kills is reliable (instead of everyone dumping bullets into the same sponge, with the kill shot essentially being random). Detachment is also great... at low Threat Levels when things die quickly enough that 3 seconds of ablative armor is enough to carry someone between kills.

Back on topic: It is stupid that the best rank of shields (ARK) can't have nano resistance. DefianceData is incomplete with regard to shield mechanics. Rashere, is this true of ARK shields? If so, would it not be better to make the jackpot shield an EX with a resistance?

Fuzzy
09-18-2014, 06:43 PM
N

Back on topic: It is stupid that the best rank of shields (ARK) can't have nano resistance. DefianceData is incomplete with regard to shield mechanics. Rashere, is this true of ARK shields? If so, would it not be better to make the jackpot shield an EX with a resistance?

I know I'm not Rashere but I'd suggest reading this thread here: http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?154288-Defiance-Science-Shields...the-second-coming
It's a long but a great read and explains the mechanis of shields really well. The numbers should be correct.
The reason ark shields cannot have a resistance is probably that they have the biggest bonus (a regen 100% regeneration). Having a resistance on top of that would make them really overpowered and other shields obsolete.
As I've suggested, read the linked thread, it explains the shields really well! :)

Chump Norris
09-18-2014, 07:38 PM
I will have to disagree. The Respark is good for beginners and players that do not engage in advanced usage of their EGO perks. In my experiences at TL10, the Respark users are hiding because their shields are broken or dead because it wasn't enough to take all the incoming love taps. I'm not here to derail the thread or convert you but I will state that larger shields do have merit. You will have to invest in the Detachment and Execution perks for it to work. My Rhino Berserker IV EX has 22203 capacity. A critical kill = 3330 capacity restored. Any kill in general grants me 3 armor plates for 3 seconds. In the event that my shield breaks, I gain 10% firing speed for 9.6 seconds or until I get a critical kill (or some person heals me with his BMG).

TL;DR Version: Hopefully after this one cycles, we Detachment and Execution users will see a Rhino Berserker V ARK go up.

I currently use a Respark Charger ARK and don't have to hide because of TL10. I use my shield for co-op/arkfalls/arkbreaks/sieges/incursions/well everything.

otonagamer
09-18-2014, 09:32 PM
As to Echelon vendor, can't you add weapon supply crate to it? I do PvP but still, I don't see anything I want on that vendor and I have plenty of Echelon rep to waste.

As to Jackpot shield, I also prefer Respark Regenerator IV EX with Fire resistance. Respark is PvE shield so 75% health regen is enough. I think Fire resistance is more useful then extra 25% health regen in PvE.

I agree Respark is not the only useful shield in PvE. You can utilize other shields if you equip said defensive perks and act properly. I have 7th Legion Amakuni build with Sai Surge for PvE(and PvP) use. But still, Respark is the easiest shield to use for PvE.

Chump Norris
09-18-2014, 09:56 PM
Nano resistance raises the delay on Resparks and IV EX shields are much easier to find than ARKs. If you pull a Respark Regen ARK and really want a IV EX you should have no problem finding someone to swap.

crazyged
09-18-2014, 10:42 PM
I will have to disagree. The Respark is good for beginners and players that do not engage in advanced usage of their EGO perks. In my experiences at TL10, the Respark users are hiding because their shields are broken or dead because it wasn't enough to take all the incoming love taps. I'm not here to derail the thread or convert you but I will state that larger shields do have merit. You will have to invest in the Detachment and Execution perks for it to work. My Rhino Berserker IV EX has 22203 capacity. A critical kill = 3330 capacity restored. Any kill in general grants me 3 armor plates for 3 seconds. In the event that my shield breaks, I gain 10% firing speed for 9.6 seconds or until I get a critical kill (or some person heals me with his BMG).

TL;DR Version: Hopefully after this one cycles, we Detachment and Execution users will see a Rhino Berserker V ARK go up.

It takes skill to use a Respark. If you can survive the Warmaster with no downs and still getting in serious damage, then you're doing something right! It's why I like it in PVE. Makes things interesting.

Giren
09-19-2014, 12:29 AM
I am almost tempted to come back and farm keys for this. I said almost though

SirServed
09-19-2014, 12:29 AM
It takes skill to use a Respark. If you can survive the Warmaster with no downs and still getting in serious damage, then you're doing something right! It's why I like it in PVE. Makes things interesting.
How exactly does a Respark take skill to use? Failure to dodge bombs is between you and that extraction fee considering WM is a mostly scripted fight. We no longer have a Damage summary to objectively know who is doing serious damage. Want to see interesting? Try continuing to deal serious damage for the next 12 seconds after WM forcibly breaks your Rhino.

crazyged
09-19-2014, 12:34 AM
How exactly does a Respark take skill to use? Failure to dodge bombs is between you and that extraction fee considering WM is a mostly scripted fight. We no longer have a Damage summary to objectively know who is doing serious damage.

Dude, not all of us need massive armor to survive.

It's twitch combat.

Knowing how and when to dodge helps a bit too...

If you're having problems with that, I'll be more than happy to give you some pointers! :cool:

SirServed
09-19-2014, 12:54 AM
Knowing how and when to dodge helps a bit too...As long as a Respark user doesn't die, their shield problems go away in 5 seconds of combat inactivity. I'm sure that takes years of mastery to figure out.


If you're having problems with that, I'll be more than happy to give you some pointers! :cool:
Last I checked, I was the one giving you pointers. Dueling is hard.

crazyged
09-19-2014, 01:52 AM
As long as a Respark user doesn't die, their shield problems go away in 5 seconds of combat inactivity. I'm sure that takes years of mastery to figure out.


Last I checked, I was the one giving you pointers. Dueling is hard.

You should actually be reading THIS (http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?174292-Seeing-as-though-the-forums-are-quiet...) thread, I think... There's one that describes you to a tee! I think it's number 4 on the first link... :D

It's actually 2 and a bit seconds for recharge, but you're the expert, apparently. Not everybody runs and hides when their shield goes - and you're assuming I'd be using a Respark in pvp...

I may be relatively new on the forums, but I ain't a new player - not by a long shot...

SirServed
09-19-2014, 03:47 AM
It's actually 2 and a bit seconds for recharge, but you're the expert, apparently.
Recharge delay (2.25-2.5 seconds depending on the Respark) + Time needed to recharge shield if fully empty (2.5 seconds @ 40% recharge rate). Math is fun.

crazyged
09-19-2014, 03:51 AM
Recharge delay (2.25-2.5 seconds depending on the Respark) + Time needed to recharge shield if fully empty (2.5 seconds @ 40% recharge rate). Math is fun.

Yeah, like I said - 2 and a bit seconds! :D

I just realised we're totally off the original subject of this thread.

Where was I?

Oh yeah, guns! More guns!

ironcladtrash
09-20-2014, 07:25 AM
I've been thinking about this. I need to delve deeper into Defiance PvP and the drivers there, but my experience has been that you basically need to treat PvP and PvE separately since they have different needs. Instead of trying to make a single item that works well for both (which tends to get you something that doesn't work well for either), it may be better to introduce new items and boxes that are built for PvP specifically.

Rashere
Commented on this in seperate thread too. I actually don't think that is a good idea at all. A big part of the fun in this game and Defiance's only advantage in PVP is taking your PVE gear into it. Most guns work fine in both are some are currently better in one vs the other. For example sawed off is better in PVP vs PVE. There are still some overpowered guns in PVP like Surge Bolter, Big Boomer, and the broken Slugger. Other than that you should not separate PVP from PVE because it's too hard to balance right. Balance can be achieved it just takes an effort. If you take that away you should just scrap PVP entirely, it will become a very generic PVP shooter and there are tons of better options.

Rashere
09-22-2014, 03:52 PM
Woohoo!

You just made me drool even more!

Maybe a wolfhound...? hint, hint!

No wolfhound, but the guns I was referring to are up on PTS now. Check the latest patch notes (http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?173908-Upcoming-Changes-on-PTS&p=1620180&viewfull=1#post1620180) for images.

Rashere