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Punisher Illinois Blue
02-05-2015, 12:08 AM
St. Patrick is well known as the English Catholic Priest that drove the Serpent tattooed Priests from Ireland. Just this fact here can give lots of inspiration for the theme for a St. Patricks defiance event, excluding the more stereotypical themes one could use.

The enemy used for the St. Patricks day events should be the "GRID." The Grid have a shared / similar history / shared origin with the cult of the "Devouring Serpent," "Devouring Mother." Both the victims of this cult when attacked by the "Devouring Mother" or a Grid are infected with Votan nanite technology.

Just for starters concerning the theme of these minor and major arkfalls I feel that the Grid should be re-skinned to look shinny Gold. The higher tier they are the more glowing green parts and black detailing they should have. Also the Confessors should have the stereotypical St. Patricks day green top hats on their heads (tilted). Also the rising wave attack that standard Grid do should be re-colored to have rainbow looking colors, not necessarily exactly like a rainbow in that the colors are separate.

The Ark Fall objective

IM not sure what the minor should be like but IM sure that the Major should be different objective-wise than any other types of missions we get in this game. Thats the problem with the last two Holiday arkfalls, the objective was to kill everything within a set amount of time. This is how I think the St. Patricks day arkfall should be like.

It should work like a Seige in that the people playing this WILL get something but depending on how many points they make by the end of the timer determines how good the stuff is they get.

Their is a primary arkfall zone, it is exactly like what we are used to when it comes to the arkfall area, and a secondary zone outside the primary but not far at all from it. This secondary zone is meant to be captured and held onto by the players. A new type of Grid needs to be made for this major arkfall. It will be like a Grid hellbug warrior that is fused to a 2nd grid hellbug warrior. It will be a tunneling cargo carrier type. It carries on its back a pot of gold ark forge. This creature will have more hit points than a monarch. Only one will exists at a time. It will be protected by the Mr. Bucket looking Grid that shoot fire and electro attacks a lot. (THE MR. BUCKET LOOKING GRID SHOULD ALSO SHOOT ARTIFACTS SIMILAR TO THE WAVE ATTACK USED FOR THE ST. PATRICKS DAY EVENT REG GRID) It will try and quickly flee from attackers rather than attack them. It can burrow back into the ground if it isnt killed fast enough, another one will come back to take it place with full health.

When this carrier creature dies it will drop the pot of gold arkforge. This arkforge will fade away after 3 seconds unless it is picked up by a player. Picking up this pot of gold ark forge is just like picking up a minigun. It slows the player down movement wise but it also doesn't allow the player carrying the pot of gold ark forge to attack at all. They must take this pot of gold arkforge too the secondary arkfall site to gain points. People carrying the pot of gold arkforge will be targeted by the current groups of crusader Grid.

Crusader Grid will attack anyone near the boarder of ether AF boundaries.

If the pot of gold player carrier is killed the pot after being dropped will disappear in one and a half seconded. If this person makes it too the secondary AF zone they will get a huge point bonus, maybe also a higher change at getting OJ / Gold weapons.

Now here comes the tricky part. These pots of gold can be knocked out of the secondary AF zone by Grid Wave attacks, only standard Grid, Crusaders, and the Confessor/s will target the secondary AF Zone. they will go flying 6-17 feet away from the capture zone. We will just call the secondary AF Zone the Capture Zone from here on out. It will look different in that their will be some friendly St. Patricks themed structures in this area, like a giant four leaf clover. The players will only have a seconded and a half to get the pots back into the Capture Zone. Players putting Pots back into the Capture Zone will get a points bonus but not as high or as good as a player that carried the pot out of the Primary AF zone and into the Capture Zone.


IT GET WORSE

Sometimes these new grid / hellbug carriers will carry a black pot with them. These carriers are aggressive and will actively attack the players in the area. When the black pot falls it will cause all current standard Grid to become "Cauldron Born." A Cauldron Born is the worst type of Zombie, excluding Black Lantern Core Zombies and Marvel Zombies, that a person can face. They are Zombies that have no mental handycaps, they usually are heavily armed and armored. They are very skilled with their weapons but the Armour gives allusion that they have vulnerabilities. Cauldron Born are invincible. The only way to kill them is too attack them with blessed weapons, trick them into falling into very deep bodies of water OR destroy the Cauldron in which the potion was made that created them, or trick them into touching the contents of the cauldron.

The Grid Cauldron Born Should look pure black with green glowing parts and gold detailing. They like their historical brethren are immune to all damage. The only-way to revert them back to their normal selves is to.

1) Allow a human player that carried a gold pot into the capture zone to for fit half their score, or a third, to make it rain on the battle field. This will turn all the current Cauldron Born Grid back into reg Grid.

2) Kill a Grid Hellbug Carrier, ether type, and don't pick up the pot that it drops. When it vanishes so too does the Cauldron Born Grid immunity to damage.

3) If your in a area that has water, like the "Water Temple" lure them into the Water if you can. The ones that come out of the Water will not be Cauldron Born.

Cauldron Born Grid will target the Capture Zones pile of Pots of Gold.

The enemies will spawn a lot, more so than other events. When the time runs out, each and every pot of gold still in the capture zone will add lots of points for each player that came to the events score.

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-05-2015, 12:18 AM
Next are the weapons. For starters it might be cool if these weapons look like they have a texture mixture of gold, green marble, white marble, and orange and black leather.

IM not for sure what the synergy should be but this time their is one horror film that would be appropriate to use here as a title for a synergy.

Serpent and the Rainbow Or it could be the name of the Major AF. The name is fitting for many many many reasons. The name is from a movie about voodoo Zombies, Grid are a bio-mechanical inorganic infectious zombie. Serpents are associated with St. Patricks day as well as having a link too the Devouring Mother. Rainbows are also associated with St. Patricks day and or Ireland.

Maybe the synergy for these weapons should allow the weapons to randomly fire any type of the standard nanos? It fires every flavor of the rainbow... The other synergy abilities I have no idea what they should be.

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-05-2015, 12:40 AM
LASTLY TRIDUUM POINTS.

Buona Pasqua...

What does that mean? Its how you say "Happy Easter" in Italian. In fact most ways you can say "Happy Easter" in different languages sound nor look nothing like "Ishtar." Despite the fact that the word "Easter" was originally only used by English speaking people, the word Easter has its roots in English and German language history. At the time English sounded nearly identical to German when the word was created. These languages have nothing in common nor were they geographically close to the culture that used the word Ishtar. The norse had a word that did sound similar to Easter, that was "Eostre." This however didn't influence the creation of Easter as no one in the beginnings of the Church where German / Norse and Pasqua existed before any members from those areas even joined the Church.

None of these sound like the Russian phrase for Easter "Xristos voskres."

This is all just something to keep in mind when developing the Triduum event in Defiance.

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-05-2015, 02:47 PM
Just a few other suggestions and pointers.

*It may be better if there more than one capture zone.

*It may be better if you only allow 7 pots of gold arkforge to be placed per capture zone.

*It may be better if the players cant tell if the Grid Carrier is carrying a Pot of Gold Ark Forge or a Black Cauldron till its dropped from its dead body.

*For better transport of the Pot of Gold maybe a throw function should be added, the right trigger throws.

*The Major AF site has a huge gold ship sticking out of the ground and the Grid are loading up the carriers with the Gold AF spilling out of the ship.

*Cauldron Born are Irish zombies.

*If the method for changing Cauldron Born Grid back into normal Grid is too complex just change the mechanics so that the Grid are immune too damage for a set amount of time. 30 sec - 2 min

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-08-2015, 03:52 PM
Just thought I should add that it might be cool if the St. Patricks day weapons had a synergy that boosted the ammount of arkforge we get.

1) -50% to total shields and health

2) -25% to total shields and health

3) +50% to arkforge rewarded after final score during event

4) +100% to arkforge rewarded after final score during event

Symbiosis2099
02-08-2015, 05:00 PM
2 flaws I quickly noticed when skimming over this:

Score based rewards

Syn that gives double AF

With score based rewards you could simply spam bmg the whole time and win

Double arkforge synergy will never happen because it would cut into Trion's profits

Also, if they have a St Paddy's day event, I'd expect it to be something pretty classicly themed, with leprachauns and pots of gold and other such nonsense because that's what people are familiar with. As well as the typical major/minor arkfalls because they will be simple to implement.

Nefarious
02-08-2015, 05:05 PM
Is there going to be a Saint Patrick's day event? Better be a contract to find Leprechauns like Santas reindeer and a Rainbow over the San Fran Bridge.

idk if we will get new enemy models for Saint Patrick's day. Grid/Hellbug combos would be cool but I don't see that for Saint Patricks day. I see SPD event having drunk themed Raiders instead.

Symbiosis2099
02-08-2015, 05:13 PM
I see SPD event having drunk themed Raiders instead.

Sounds good to me :D
I fancy myself as a bit of a drunk raider on St. Pat's

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-08-2015, 05:21 PM
2 flaws I quickly noticed when skimming over this:

Score based rewards

Syn that gives double AF

With score based rewards you could simply spam bmg the whole time and win

Double arkforge synergy will never happen because it would cut into Trion's profits

Also, if they have a St Paddy's day event, I'd expect it to be something pretty classicly themed, with leprachauns and pots of gold and other such nonsense because that's what people are familiar with. As well as the typical major/minor arkfalls because they will be simple to implement.

The score based idea I think is good because it prevents people from wasting their time on a event only for it to be ruined by a npc stuck in the ground like during the Christ Mass event.

As for the synergy IM just throwing out ideas. Do you think it would be better if the weapon on 1 took 75% of health and shields while 2 takes 50% of health and shields from the player when equiped?

Having a weapon that hurst your stats while granting a chance to win better awards IF you dont die and respawn alot is a good trade off I think.

Pots of gold arkforge are a major theme in my idea, I think you might have skimmed through my posts to quickly.

Symbiosis2099
02-08-2015, 05:30 PM
Like I said, the problem with score based rewards would be people simply spamming a bmg the whole time, you rack up insane points that way and honestly, if I knew I would get say, a fat stack of arkforge, I'd strap on a bmg and spam away.

Are you saying the arkforge syn would only work for this event? If so, no one would use these wapons afterwards, and you're suggesting the incentive for participating would be arkforge rewards...I just don't see trion going for it, cuts into their profits, and if they gave little enough forge that it wouldn't cut their profits then I don't see the players rushing to participate if all they get is a little forge and weapons that will be useless when it's over

Except me, I'd be running around with my double forge syn bmg racking up insane points by doing very little...

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-08-2015, 06:04 PM
Is there going to be a Saint Patrick's day event? Better be a contract to find Leprechauns like Santas reindeer and a Rainbow over the San Fran Bridge.

idk if we will get new enemy models for Saint Patrick's day. Grid/Hellbug combos would be cool but I don't see that for Saint Patricks day. I see SPD event having drunk themed Raiders instead.

I dont know... I wish they would do more Russian and Canadian holiday events. To late for boxers day...

I hope they dont go the route you suggested, it just feels like it would have been effortless like the Thanksgiving event. I know some might disagree with how I have it themed but I feel it adds a much more thought out touch to the holiday event that uses alot of irish themed lore that also share simiular themes with defiance based lore.

I feel that the hunting and spoting for x contracts should stay as a Christ Mass event thing or else it will become old and not feel like a special event.

Like if Trion went with my idea I wouldnt want them to use the same mechanics for the Tridiuum event. 99ners would be great for that event because they fit the theme of rebirth, rising better than they were before. Maybe that event could be about escorting fictonal bombs to detantion sites at a fortfied 99 bunker, you get more point foer each bomb that makes it to the bunker and explodes. The final part is defeating a "Siege Master" or two with legions of freash 99ners armed with those ICE NANO weapons I made up for Christ Mass, a Siege Master is a Mother Load, the robotic arm is now a double tunneler drillbit arm while it carries a heavy nap or liquid nitrogen thrower)

The idea is that the survivors of the Zombie infection in Paradise are in need of advanced cyborg and other biomechanical medical equipment. The local go offered 99ners money and materials for their cybernetic hardware. Not only did they decline the offer but they are planing to takeout the Paradise inhabents because they want their resources AND they calculate in the weakend state Paradise is in after surviving the Afflicted and Grid the 99ners will suffer few loses.

The Paradise / Ark hunter objective is to make a first strike at one of the 99ners factories at night, kill the 99ners and take the cybernetic devices and weapons back with them to both heal the badly wounded and strengthen their own defence forces. Both options can or will result in mass death of the people of paradise. Only one however has a chance that in the end the people of paradise will survive and be stronger than they were before.

Push comes to shove I can except 99ners as a alt force for StP but It just wont mesh as well.

Raiders would have been great for a Boxers day af event. Or maybe a Boxer Raider incursion holiday event?

konstantinov
02-08-2015, 06:05 PM
Boxing Day is a day where people box up gifts for others and the less fortunate.

ShatterST4R
02-08-2015, 06:11 PM
Leprochaun smelters! Yess

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-08-2015, 06:18 PM
Like I said, the problem with score based rewards would be people simply spamming a bmg the whole time, you rack up insane points that way and honestly, if I knew I would get say, a fat stack of arkforge, I'd strap on a bmg and spam away.

Are you saying the arkforge syn would only work for this event? If so, no one would use these wapons afterwards, and you're suggesting the incentive for participating would be arkforge rewards...I just don't see trion going for it, cuts into their profits, and if they gave little enough forge that it wouldn't cut their profits then I don't see the players rushing to participate if all they get is a little forge and weapons that will be useless when it's over

Except me, I'd be running around with my double forge syn bmg racking up insane points by doing very little...

No IM saying these StP event weapons would be awarded for this event just like purge was for Halloween. I dont know if their would be a Serpent and the Rainbow BMG.

Still though IM ok with the mechanics that dictate the awards for this event because the more classic AF mechanic when used with tunneling forces can glitch. All your time spent can be wasted by one enemy stuck in the ground, making it so you get nothing.

The way this event would work your points are coming more from the pots of gold af taken and secured in the capture zones. Your going to focus more on keeping the enemies away from the score zone rather than just boosting points with a bmg. The point value for enemies in this event as well as special actions, excluding holiday exclusive actions, should have their point values dramatical shaved down.

Its all about the pots of gold af.

Punisher Illinois Blue
02-23-2015, 04:23 PM
This is for engineers to see.

Bonehead
02-23-2015, 04:58 PM
2 flaws I quickly noticed when skimming over this:

Score based rewards

Syn that gives double AF

With score based rewards you could simply spam bmg the whole time and win

Double arkforge synergy will never happen because it would cut into Trion's profits

Also, if they have a St Paddy's day event, I'd expect it to be something pretty classicly themed, with leprechauns and pots of gold and other such nonsense because that's what people are familiar with. As well as the typical major/minor arkfalls because they will be simple to implement.

Oh my GOD!!! Leprechaun arkfalls!!

It will never happen but it would be awesome!!

http://www.craveonline.com/images/stories/2011/Film/The%20Series%20Project/Leprechaun/Part%202/Leprechaun_4_light_sabre.jpg