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Nefarious
04-15-2015, 04:04 PM
So I got annoyed on how the island is so big yet we are only allowed to have a portion of it. So taking time from doing Expeditions I looked to get through the fence and into the camp grounds. And it took me all of 2 minutes.

Two spots that I figured out that can get you through. One is super easy and another not to much but still easy.

The back end of the island is incomplete and has a lot of missing textures. The tent area you can see through the fence is pretty cool looking though. Took more pics but will upload them later, but by that time you will probably figure out to get back there yourselves.

http://i.imgur.com/mlOy8wi.jpg

heartbreak_courier
04-15-2015, 04:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/m37JXei.jpg

Ray8888
04-15-2015, 04:52 PM
Dammit Heartbreak I came in to ask why he didn't name this thread Escape From Alcatraz!

Nefarious
04-15-2015, 09:32 PM
Dammit Heartbreak I came in to ask why he didn't name this thread Escape From Alcatraz!

It wasn't an Escape as it was to be able to get in.

I was going to post pictures and everything but screw that. Im going to take new pics to show on how to do it and you can look around for yourselves.

crazyged
04-15-2015, 10:51 PM
It wasn't an Escape as it was to be able to get in.

I was going to post pictures and everything but screw that. Im going to take new pics to show on how to do it and you can look around for yourselves.

You do realise if you post the pics, it won't be long before those spots are fixed too...? :D

Nefarious
04-15-2015, 10:55 PM
So the first way I figured out how to do it was this. You go to the top up the stairs past all the Contract Vendors. And you will see the giant roots. The very things that were made to block your path and keep you out will be your bridge in.
http://i.imgur.com/7tjTTS7.jpg

Climb on it. When you look down below you will see a branch.
http://i.imgur.com/0NHAvZR.jpg

Jump and land on the branch.
http://i.imgur.com/UktX2YB.jpg

From there you can jump onto the corner of the roof of the building.
http://i.imgur.com/qEykFmk.jpg

Run down the building to the edge.
http://i.imgur.com/8Wxlc1d.jpg

Jump in. And proceed to troll other players by waving at them from the other side of the fence.
http://i.imgur.com/8qFgIvr.jpg

crazyged
04-15-2015, 10:57 PM
Aaaand he posted the pics...

Well, goodbye exploring! :P

Nefarious
04-15-2015, 11:00 PM
And here is the super easy way I figured out after the fact as I made my rounds about the area.

From the starting area run up the stairs and along the balcony.
http://i.imgur.com/IORquYQ.jpg

And basically you jump onto the guard rail and jump around it to the other side.
http://i.imgur.com/WzwALSw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mvCrr10.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EU09Ig2.jpg

Nefarious
04-15-2015, 11:04 PM
You do realise if you post the pics, it won't be long before those spots are fixed too...? :D

Yeah I know. Maybe they will get fixed. There is nothing over there other then the cool camp site. There is a prison yard but its just empty. Be super cool if you could duel in it as players above watch. Like if we could que up for a duel and it would port players in there to fight in the open world. It could have all kinds of stuff from cover and weapons to use.

Anyway, yeah there is nothing much out there yet.

crazyged
04-15-2015, 11:05 PM
Enjoy it while you can - those spots won't be there long...

Ray8888
04-16-2015, 05:05 AM
They will be there for quite a while. I'm sure this is very low on their list of things to fix. I don't know if you noticed but there are a few things that are seriously impacting game play right now. I'm thinking of the Defiant Few II pursuit and Cradle to The Grave right now. Not saying it won't be fixed however....

crazyged
04-16-2015, 05:09 AM
They will be there for quite a while. I'm sure this is very low on their list of things to fix. I don't know if you noticed but there are a few things that are seriously impacting game play right now. I'm thinking of the Defiant Few II pursuit and Cradle to The Grave right now. Not saying it won't be fixed however....

It's a quick fix for them - it'll most probably be sorted when the next lot of fixes come out.

Sigh, I enjoyed wondering around on the other side...

Mister Derpenhowser
04-16-2015, 05:11 AM
Nerf ruining the fun for everyone....

KILLSHOT707
04-16-2015, 07:38 AM
What you could not find something to cry nerf about? May be they should look into the crit issues instead.

r1p
04-16-2015, 08:00 AM
I can't imagine why they would bother to fix it because it doesn't provide any benefit to players that do it, unlike the holes that were/are in the co-op maps.

Fawks
04-16-2015, 08:55 AM
Theres not much on the other side, I mean the camp looks cool with all the tents and camp fires but theres not much to see.

Tsano
04-16-2015, 09:32 AM
Awww... just when you thought you could sneak over the fence and take with you that cute girl you've always wanted to ask out in Chem class...

PhantasieTrion
04-16-2015, 10:12 AM
You do realise if you post the pics, it won't be long before those spots are fixed too...? :D

As a few others mentioned, given (that I know of) there isnt a PVP/PVE/Other exploit here, this would be pretty low on our list to fix :)

We spent some time trying to lockdown Alcatraz in advance, but knew players would find ways around it anyway, so we didn't make it airtight. :)

--Phantasie

Ryu Soba JP
04-16-2015, 10:14 AM
LOL ^ at least it's not the girl from math class. I hear she has coodies!

Xaat Xuun
04-16-2015, 02:49 PM
dang, I've been to those locations and stopped by a invisible wall, or pushed away.

maybe my character is to fat, or carrying too much gear, possibly vertigo .. yeah that's it, . . my character has Vertigo

I'll need to try again . . I hadn't given up, this thread just shows me the same location I have tried in the past, I was hoping there was pics, and there was, just not of other areas I had not tried yet

Chocolatelover67
04-16-2015, 10:31 PM
Damn you people :D

30 minutes trying every possible way to get over that fence....... I think they fixed it

Exploiting maps is supposed to be fun

crazyged
04-17-2015, 12:20 AM
As a few others mentioned, given (that I know of) there isnt a PVP/PVE/Other exploit here, this would be pretty low on our list to fix :)

We spent some time trying to lockdown Alcatraz in advance, but knew players would find ways around it anyway, so we didn't make it airtight. :)

--Phantasie

Thanks PT, it's a nice spot to explore! :D

Quick question: Are you guys ever planning on finishing that side off and opening it up?

Doesn't look like it would take much - a texture here and there...

We'd buy you cookies?

PhantasieTrion
04-17-2015, 12:25 AM
@Chocolate - As I mentioned earlier in the thread, fixing this would be low priority, and it certainly wasn't fixed today. Keep practicing your jumping, I guess :)


Thanks PT, it's a nice spot to explore! :D

Quick question: Are you guys ever planning on finishing that side off and opening it up?

Doesn't look like it would take much - a texture here and there...

We'd buy you cookies?

I am a fan of cookies. :)

Honestly, the art focus right now is mostly on new expeditions, though we would love to expand on Alcatraz!

--Phantasie

EvilAg3nt
04-17-2015, 12:25 AM
As a few others mentioned, given (that I know of) there isnt a PVP/PVE/Other exploit here, this would be pretty low on our list to fix :)

We spent some time trying to lockdown Alcatraz in advance, but knew players would find ways around it anyway, so we didn't make it airtight. :)

--Phantasie

Thanks! for letting us play around back there.
i had a good time watching everyone trying to get behind the fence today,and then teaching them how-to.
ps,the railing jump is kinda tough but the branch trick is much easier.:cool:

crazyged
04-17-2015, 12:33 AM
Thanks! for letting us play around back there.
i had a good time watching everyone trying to get behind the fence today,and then teaching them how-to.
ps,the railing jump is kinda tough but the branch trick is much easier.:cool:

There's still another way to get there that only a few of us know about... It's tricky, but one of my mates does it fairly easily.

Buy me cookies and I'll vid it :D

Lady Alastor
04-17-2015, 02:05 AM
Phantasie, I posted a thread the other day with pictures showing that you may get on top of Alcatraz, including the lighthouse. As I understand it now, I'm the only player that knows how to so I'm still not sharing with others. Will this ever be fixed? Also may I ask why there is collision detection on these buildings, but there isn't any inside Diablo or the pipes in The Motherlode?

Duplicity
04-17-2015, 09:27 AM
It's pretty cool exploring the outside of Alcatraz. I made a quick video showing you how to get around that fence if anyone needs it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1U7LqN7nQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip1U7LqN7nQ

EvilAg3nt
04-17-2015, 09:58 AM
apparently some people are either upset that they cant jump properly,or are just butthurt period.
i got reported for being in the camp?!! glitching.
redonkulous.

PhantasieTrion
04-17-2015, 10:33 AM
Personally, I'm not to worried about this type of thing as long as you are not impacting other players enjoyment, exploiting for gameplay benefits, or of course doing it for some sort of monetary gain, etc. But I don't recall what the specific Customer Service policy is for this, off the top of my head.

@Lady Alastor - Its been bugged to the art team - thanks! Something like this is likely a client change, so it won't go out for awhile, and as mentioned its lower priority. As for the why there are collisions on one and not the other? Likely just a different artist/designer worked on it and one decided to collide one section and another didn't. Stuff like this is tradeoff. Should we put up collisions (what prevents you from falling through the world), in areas players *shouldn't* be able to get to in the first place, and then have that cause (albeit very marginal) performance degradation, etc?

Lady Alastor
04-17-2015, 11:21 AM
Oh I've always assumed it was one level designer. That's understandable. I've seen one player get outside the boundary on Observatory and start sniping us, but I'm assuming it must be a hard glitch to perform as I've only seen them do it once the entire match. I've also found a way to get outside of Waterfront, but I haven't yet been able to take pictures or a video.

Where may I update your team about these bugs/glitches, or shall I message you personally? I haven't worked on typical PvP levels yet, but I know many places on the overworld where you can superjump, and Shadow Wars take place on the overworld. Duels are no different, but they're so short I don't think it matters much anyway. I know of 1 of the terraspires in Bloodbath which can't be reached by intended methods, and in San Francisco in between the Terraform Pools and Dogpatch there's another.

Also on top of Bolinas where the sniping event is, but that one leaves you so open I don't think its that much of a big deal ^.^

PhantasieTrion
04-17-2015, 11:29 AM
For non gameplay collison holes, like the ones in Alcatraz, you can just post about here.
For any that give a benefit to players in PVP, coops, etc, it would be better if you can PM me.

Thanks; appreciate it.

--Phantasie

Lady Alastor
04-17-2015, 11:33 AM
Fantastic! I'll see about getting a few pictures or videos later today

Vega
04-17-2015, 08:31 PM
          

TNO
04-17-2015, 08:50 PM
Also to you new Ark Hunters that love exploring the realm of Defiance as I do tell me where Im at on this one:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vLUiGMVYgko/VTHJ_iFxKvI/AAAAAAAAAzA/QrTsSY46H4c/w1039-h584-no/Wheres%2BCastor.bmp

This is wonderland and the everlasting spike. Now what do I win?

Chocolatelover67
04-17-2015, 09:00 PM
I'm certainly not upset but yeah it's frustrating and addictive to keep trying........ I"m playing on PC so how do you do this on PC?

Chump Norris
04-17-2015, 09:03 PM
So far the hardest spot I know of hasn't been posted yet.

*fingers crossed* it wont be.

Vega
04-17-2015, 09:12 PM
          

Chocolatelover67
04-17-2015, 09:14 PM
I'd like to visit the following areas

http://users.on.net/~aviannix37/screencap01.jpg

and

http://users.on.net/~aviannix37/screencap02.jpg

Vega
04-17-2015, 09:38 PM
          

Chocolatelover67
04-18-2015, 02:22 AM
Also I will show you how to get to here next time. Its the same direction we used to climb the New Freedom during the United Legions event way back. Its pretty empty back there but its still cool to see

I almost got there once on my own but fell off the ship and couldn't make my way back

EvilAg3nt
04-18-2015, 07:23 AM
There's still another way to get there that only a few of us know about... It's tricky, but one of my mates does it fairly easily.

Buy me cookies and I'll vid it :D

i did find another way yesterday,by exploring.
it involves a walkway and a tree next to a house.:cool:

it almost looks like they left both sides of the dock area a way to get out and explore.

Duplicity
04-18-2015, 08:02 AM
Here's 2 other ways to get out. The first way is using the branch thing to get to the roof. The second way I haven't seen posted yet (I think)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_UUc0C4lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU_UUc0C4lw

hardy83
04-18-2015, 08:15 AM
Just did a quick run around. It's nice.

It's a shame it'll probably never be finished. Putting the vendors inside the main building, adding NPCs who walk around and adding other social aspects to the island would have gone a long way to make it better.

But alas, no hate on Trion as their budget is probably tiny, they can only focus on so much, and they clearly care more about making more Expeditions, which I hope include original maps. Most of the maps for the 3 we have is just recycled stuff.

If expeditions are our way of going beyond the Bay, then getting new maps like the Storm Divide, New York etc would be nice.

....So sick of caves and halls. lol

EvilAg3nt
04-18-2015, 08:42 AM
found this by myself,altho im sure others have found it in beta.
run straight Past the stairway going upstairs to the vendors.
look left at the ladder on the wall,go up it.
turn right,go down the walkway to the doorway of house.
jump into tree,keep jumping,while pushing upwards.
presto,on the roof in less than 30 seconds.

on the other side,the 2cnd story railing trick is a bit tricky but also done in 30 seconds.

we were talking about this map in clan chat,it would be crazy cool to be able to Use our atv-s in there..<<
racing around the island..hint hint.

Chocolatelover67
04-18-2015, 06:19 PM
I want to know what the big unfinished block is at the back? It's like the bottom half of some building that never got a texture map put on.

hardy83
04-18-2015, 06:37 PM
I want to know what the big unfinished block is at the back? It's like the bottom half of some building that never got a texture map put on.

The island was made to be fairly accurate to the actual place. If you google a map of Alcatraz, you can see what each building is.

I'm assuming you're talking about the walled area that has no texture. That was the recreation area for prisoners.
If you mean the building near that with no texture, it's something called New Industries Building. It was where inmates did work, or laundry or something.

EvilAg3nt
04-24-2015, 07:25 AM
why would you leave such a great game??

and,to get to the guard tower,jump to the roof using tree branch trick and then line up at the peak,look at the tower,run down and jump at last possible second,youll land either on the roof or on the edge of the tower.

theres a bunch of stuff you can climb on all over the place,i hadnt tried the lighthouse yet tho.

jremarks
04-24-2015, 09:08 AM
We have found 7 ways of getting past the barrier, 4 of them found on the first day, the rest when we were bored and explored again, you can get on the massive building at the top and from there we walked along an invisible barrier to another unaccessible building, its funny its almost as if they couldn't be bothered to finish it xD

Duplicity
04-26-2015, 03:34 PM
Here's another way out and also how to get on a building if anyone is interested.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R45Nj0aSZgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R45Nj0aSZgk

Nefarious
04-26-2015, 04:37 PM
Here's another way out and also how to get on a building if anyone is interested.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R45Nj0aSZgk

That's pretty cool. Seems like there are a lot of ways for a "Jailbreak". :rolleyes:

Speaking "Jailbreak" :p your vid has no audio. I know of the perfect song you could use to add something to your "Jailbreak" :o escapades.

Its called Jailbreak by the band Thin Lizzy. It fits perfect to the whole theme of the thread and the general conversation everyone in this thread is talking about. Which is breaking out of Jail.

Here it is.:cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFHSRLl3mY
A perfect song pertaining to the theme of the thread.;)

Bentu
04-26-2015, 04:39 PM
Here's another way out and also how to get on a building if anyone is interested.


R45Nj0aSZgk

Video brackets don't make the link visible on all devices, if you don't mind use youtube in brackets.

EvilAg3nt
04-26-2015, 04:41 PM
ty for sharing that too.
i hadnt found that invisible wall to the roof yet,many thanks indeed.

Duplicity
04-26-2015, 04:44 PM
That's pretty cool. Seems like there are a lot of ways for a "Jailbreak". :rolleyes:

Speaking "Jailbreak" :p your vid has no audio. I know of the perfect song you could use to add something to your "Jailbreak" :o escapades.

Its called Jailbreak by the band Thin Lizzy. It fits perfect to the whole theme of the thread and the general conversation everyone in this thread is talking about. Which is breaking out of Jail.

Here it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFFHSRLl3mY
:cool: A perfect song pertaining to the theme of the thread.

Thanks. I usually avoid using music to avoid getting a copyright strike on the video.


Video brackets don't make the link visible on all devices, if you don't mind use youtube in brackets.

I added the link to the video by itself (not sure if that's what you meant).


ty for sharing that too.
i hadnt found that invisible wall to the roof yet,many thanks indeed.

You're welcome. :)

Duplicity
05-08-2015, 01:50 PM
Here's 3 more ways to get outside. Not sure if any of these were already talked about on here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9O1femZso

(This is a link to the video for those that can't see the video in the post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq9O1femZso)

final rest
05-08-2015, 11:35 PM
Aaaand he posted the pics...

Well, goodbye exploring! :P

theres always guna be ways to explore places u shouldnt be. its called decoy and they havnt fixed it and probably wont ever fix it

Duplicity
05-10-2015, 12:09 PM
And another 2 more ways to get outside. That makes 9 so far (not sure if there are any others).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYTLb6Kjcw

(A link for those that can't see the video in the post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAYTLb6Kjcw)