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Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 02:56 PM
What makes the ghostduster better than the BH AR? 1.12 dmg isn't better than 1.8 more rof...and the piper, what makes it better than a radiant solstice blast rifle?

JOCCO5150
05-20-2015, 03:03 PM
What makes the ghostduster better than the BH AR? 1.12 dmg isn't better than 1.8 more rof...and the piper, what makes it better than a radiant solstice blast rifle?

Not all BH ARs have the same rolls. I have about 15 of them all with different rolls. An I still paid 9 mil for GD

Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 03:10 PM
Not all BH ARs have the same rolls. I have about 15 of them all with different rolls. An I still paid 9 mil for GD

You got ripped off on that then.
But my BH AR is superior to a ghost duster, 2.0x crit, 13.8 rof.

WhiteStrike
05-20-2015, 03:14 PM
What makes the ghostduster better than the BH AR? 1.12 dmg isn't better than 1.8 more rof...and the piper, what makes it better than a radiant solstice blast rifle?
Manufacturer's bonus is the key.

SirServed
05-20-2015, 03:23 PM
Manufacturer's bonus is the key.
What he said. The GD gets 5% extra damage and fire rate, and has the same 2.0 crit value as your BHAR. The comparison is actually 17% damage and 5% fire rate vs. 15% fire rate.

Kylae
05-20-2015, 03:27 PM
You got ripped off on that then.
But my BH AR is superior to a ghost duster, 2.0x crit, 13.8 rof.

You sir are a nooblet

Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 03:32 PM
You sir are a nooblet
You're just mad I wouldn't pay 10 mil for your gun.


What he said. The GD gets 5% extra damage and fire rate, and has the same 2.0 crit value as your BHAR. The comparison is actually 17% damage and 5% fire rate vs. 15% fire rate.
the GD only has 12.6 rof...so, eh, not that big of a difference, maybe. Atleast not enough to warrent me buying it right now.

SirServed
05-20-2015, 03:46 PM
the GD only has 12.6 rof...so, eh, not that big of a difference, maybe. Atleast not enough to warrent me buying it right now.
The secret in using it is when you toss a +3 burst mag into it. You get an increased fire rate of ~29%, giving you higher burst and sustained DPS than if you were to install a High Capacity Magazine. The gain is greater based on how low the weapon's fire rate is, making a T5 fire rate roll less optimal than a damage roll. The only downside is the extra recoil you will incur with the increased fire rate (countered with a Recoil mastery).

Kylae
05-20-2015, 03:48 PM
You're just mad I wouldn't pay 10 mil for your gun.

Lol, I never would had sold to you at 20mil. I just dont like you. You make stupid comments and act like you know it all and are wrong 4 out of 5 times.

DeMoNofDEATH
05-20-2015, 04:57 PM
Manufacturer's bonus is the key.

Ding Ding Ding! you win! :)

konstantinov
05-20-2015, 05:00 PM
Lol, I never would had sold to you at 20mil. I just dont like you. You make stupid comments and act like you know it all and are wrong 4 out of 5 times.

oh myy stars

JOCCO5150
05-20-2015, 05:06 PM
You got ripped off on that then.
But my BH AR is superior to a ghost duster, 2.0x crit, 13.8 rof.

I pay what I want to pay, cuz I have the scrip. Didn't I just buy a HF saw from you for like 400 or 500k? I'm collecting hf weapons, cuz soon you won't be able to get them anymore and noobs will need. I have around 20 fully modded.

Kylae
05-20-2015, 07:05 PM
oh myy stars

And Kon strikes again lol

Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 08:24 PM
The secret in using it is when you toss a +3 burst mag into it. You get an increased fire rate of ~29%, giving you higher burst and sustained DPS than if you were to install a High Capacity Magazine. The gain is greater based on how low the weapon's fire rate is, making a T5 fire rate roll less optimal than a damage roll. The only downside is the extra recoil you will incur with the increased fire rate (countered with a Recoil mastery).

But that's a bug, the base gun is eh.

Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 08:25 PM
I pay what I want to pay, cuz I have the scrip. Didn't I just buy a HF saw from you for like 400 or 500k? I'm collecting hf weapons, cuz soon you won't be able to get them anymore and noobs will need. I have around 20 fully modded.
Just because you have scrip doesn't mean you overpay for something.


Lol, I never would had sold to you at 20mil. I just dont like you. You make stupid comments and act like you know it all and are wrong 4 out of 5 times.
Nah, you're just mad I wouldn't pay you 10 mil for your gear.
and if you get annoyed by posts on the internet, you really need to just never use the internet again. Gettijg annoyed by questions, lol.

Kylae
05-20-2015, 08:57 PM
Just because you have scrip doesn't mean you overpay for something.


Nah, you're just mad I wouldn't pay you 10 mil for your gear.
and if you get annoyed by posts on the internet, you really need to just never use the internet again. Gettijg annoyed by questions, lol.

You truely are an idiot

Jerrmy12
05-20-2015, 09:01 PM
You truely are an idiot

You truly are the idiot for not elaborating, and things on the internet bug you, you don't like me because of posts/questions? God, I hope yoi never visit 4chan.

Also, name calling, lrn2namecall Better.

konstantinov
05-21-2015, 02:50 AM
You truly are the idiot for not elaborating, and things on the internet bug you, you don't like me because of posts/questions? God, I hope yoi never visit 4chan.

Also, name calling, lrn2namecall Better.

Your not 2 very gud at dis.


sarc mark

Jerrmy12
05-21-2015, 03:02 AM
Your not 2 very gud at dis.


sarc mark

Wel, I wasn't really up yet, so I couldn't really say anything, nor can I just say anything like I do on 4chan, rulez and crap, ya know, the whole business.

konstantinov
05-21-2015, 04:11 AM
Wel, I wasn't really up yet, so I couldn't really say anything, nor can I just say anything like I do on 4chan, rulez and crap, ya know, the whole business.

I don't know what those things are. I'm only here to kill anything that moves.

Combo Breaker
05-21-2015, 04:35 AM
I will sell my Pipe Duster for a low price of $20.28.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411VPjMLQQL._SX425_.jpg

Ray8888
05-21-2015, 05:40 AM
I I'm collecting hf weapons, cuz soon you won't be able to get them anymore and noobs will need. I have around 20 fully modded.

You know there is a Halloween every year no?

Kylae
05-21-2015, 06:50 AM
You know there is a Halloween every year no?

Shhh thats a secret

Thorax The Dark
05-21-2015, 07:30 AM
the jackpot weapons have increased based stats then the regulars. look at the weapon cards

clay marrow
05-21-2015, 12:35 PM
I will sell my Pipe Duster for a low price of $20.28.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/411VPjMLQQL._SX425_.jpg

That's too funny but I think he's looking for a pipe swiper instead....

Jerrmy12
05-21-2015, 01:52 PM
That's too funny but I think he's looking for a pipe swiper instead....
I kekd.

But yeah, didn't know that more than damage was better.

EvilAg3nt
05-21-2015, 02:31 PM
I don't know what those things are. I'm only here to kill anything that moves.

lol!!
enjoyed that 1 i did.

i was asking this same question tho in game chat yesterday,so its good to find out the stats.
many thanks to sirserved as per usual for teaching us.

i too have a bfh that the stats are way better than my duster,as well as a few clones of the duster/same rolls n all.
didnt know about the bonus.

Ray8888
05-21-2015, 03:58 PM
I pulled a hf fragger with almost the same rolls as my hexer just with the white and green rolls swapped. Was fun equipping them both and feeling the difference.

Then I got bored and gave it away.

Cobra Crusher
05-21-2015, 04:23 PM
You know there is a Halloween every year no?

Michael Myers disagrees lol.

Jerrmy12
05-21-2015, 04:31 PM
I pulled a hf fragger with almost the same rolls as my hexer just with the white and green rolls swapped. Was fun equipping them both and feeling the difference.

Then I got bored and gave it away.

the manfac. Bonus shows up on the weapon card, right?
excuse my scrubbery, you made it sound like it didn't.

Ray8888
05-21-2015, 06:13 PM
I have no recollection tbh.

Midnight
05-22-2015, 01:08 AM
the manfac. Bonus shows up on the weapon card, right?
excuse my scrubbery, you made it sound like it didn't.

Pretty sure the bonus is on the weapon card...

xXxDSMer
05-23-2015, 03:06 AM
the stat increase from manufacturer's bonus would show up on the weapon card. Whether its duster, piper, kiss... or even 7th legion sumi, topnotch AR (and other weapon types).... all the dmg and fire rate mfg bonuses do show up in the stats.

For those that don't want to mathematically reverse bonuses from rolls... it can be seen with same rarity, ego, and dmg (or rate) rolls. For example a HF AR with the same dmg roll (and barrel) as a duster at same ego. Or a VBI AR compared to a sumi.