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Infinity Eagle
06-07-2015, 11:00 AM
This is a couple of blast rifles on PTS. Just so people can see what you can get from the boxes.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/spinaltap_zpsbfpcefto.jpg

P.S. melee stock is all I had to put on one of them :p

ArkGuardian_MichaelDial
06-07-2015, 11:18 AM
not bad at all. Thanks for the Preview :)

Octo
06-07-2015, 12:19 PM
So it's a... Quartermaster-cannoneer synergy with more lifesteal than Purge and a (probably) more interesting Ammo thing than Prepared. But better.
Jesus.
Do you get random mods with random rarity for a random weapon on the box too ?

Jerrmy12
06-07-2015, 12:32 PM
This is a couple of blast rifles on PTS. Just so people can see what you can get from the boxes.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/spinaltap_zpsbfpcefto.jpg

P.S. melee stock is all I had to put on one of them :p

I'd get one of those an put radiation on it, or fire for pve...those look good.

Infinity Eagle
06-07-2015, 03:43 PM
So it's a... Quartermaster-cannoneer synergy with more lifesteal than Purge and a (probably) more interesting Ammo thing than Prepared. But better.
Jesus.
Do you get random mods with random rarity for a random weapon on the box too ?

Yes, you get random mods too, and can get up to orange mods, or so they say.

konstantinov
06-07-2015, 03:49 PM
I have a few OJ mods with Spinal Tap synergy.

JOCCO5150
06-07-2015, 05:07 PM
Are they tradable?

konstantinov
06-07-2015, 05:14 PM
Are they tradable?

I believe they are.

Infinity Eagle
06-07-2015, 05:18 PM
Are they tradable?
Yes you can trade them, I just logged in and checked

Breezy wfn
06-07-2015, 05:20 PM
do you get these from reg elite boxs?

Infinity Eagle
06-07-2015, 05:31 PM
do you get these from reg elite boxs?
No, these come from the spinaltap boxes in the bit store.

http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?215694-Defiance-Season-3-(Hotfix-1)-Update-to-PTS&p=1769254&viewfull=1#post1769254

Breezy wfn
06-07-2015, 05:42 PM
these dont even show up for me to get ??? are these avaiable on xbox yet?

Fuzzy
06-07-2015, 05:43 PM
these dont even show up for me to get ??? are these avaiable on xbox yet?

They are on PTS only currently and will be released with the intial Season 3 Update next week.
More infos on the new boxes (Spinal Tap and Premium Elite) can also be found here :) : http://www.defiancedata.com/page=638/defiance-season-3-guide-new-store-lock-boxes

Infinity Eagle
06-07-2015, 05:44 PM
these dont even show up for me to get ??? are these avaiable on xbox yet?

These are on Public Test Server, they are not live yet.

Edit; Fuzzy ninja

JOCCO5150
06-07-2015, 06:26 PM
Yes you can trade them, I just logged in and checked

Cool. Can't wait till it hits live

Breezy wfn
06-07-2015, 06:31 PM
you guys rock thanks alot guys

Claydough
06-07-2015, 06:40 PM
do they drop nano's?

KILLSHOT707
06-07-2015, 07:12 PM
do they drop nano's?

Yes they do. I have the blast rifle in syphon with an OJ fire rate roll. It's a life saver for sure. This is a great synergy.

Breezy wfn
06-07-2015, 07:13 PM
thats does sound naaaasty

Claydough
06-07-2015, 08:17 PM
Yes they do. I have the blast rifle in syphon with an OJ fire rate roll. It's a life saver for sure. This is a great synergy.

oh very good, that had me worried for abit!

konstantinov
06-08-2015, 06:51 AM
It will only be purchasable through the bit store.

Juggalo Juice
06-08-2015, 08:07 AM
I have a few OJ mods with Spinal Tap synergy.

Lol I thought you where a Playstation3 player? Or did I catch a white lie?

konstantinov
06-08-2015, 09:00 AM
Lol I thought you where a Playstation3 player? Or did I catch a white lie?

I bought an Alienware Alpha console to be able to log onto the PTS.

EvilAg3nt
06-08-2015, 09:12 AM
It will only be purchasable through the bit store.

so,im just curious now..because those guns look Sick and of course cant be earned like they Should Be.

whats the Purpose in playing Any of the events or expos or hey anything<< for that matter to Earn guns/mods when the Best ones can only be Purchased thru the bitstore?????

you have basically in one fell swoop made everything a waste of time.
did you Forget some of us Paid already??..bought the game,bought the dlc-s??
we cant even get what we were Supposed to get Unless we do your expos..and it keeps getting worse.

so to Add to the crappy Rng of this game,now All the stuff we farm for is Useless and outdated because hey,you- trion - are greedy and want to try to milk us.

does anyone else see the end of this game looming??
can someone explain the logic?

and to K man,seeing as you are on the test servers,i have a question for you Sir.
do they Ever listen to your recommendations?

Thorax The Dark
06-08-2015, 09:41 AM
i wish they would do this with all the bunk synergies. this is an good synergy i hope they took some ideas from the synergy feedback

konstantinov
06-08-2015, 09:47 AM
so,im just curious now..because those guns look Sick and of course cant be earned like they Should Be.

whats the Purpose in playing Any of the events or expos or hey anything<< for that matter to Earn guns/mods when the Best ones can only be Purchased thru the bitstore?????

you have basically in one fell swoop made everything a waste of time.
did you Forget some of us Paid already??..bought the game,bought the dlc-s??
we cant even get what we were Supposed to get Unless we do your expos..and it keeps getting worse.

so to Add to the crappy Rng of this game,now All the stuff we farm for is Useless and outdated because hey,you- trion - are greedy and want to try to milk us.

does anyone else see the end of this game looming??
can someone explain the logic?

and to K man,seeing as you are on the test servers,i have a question for you Sir.
do they Ever listen to your recommendations?

I haven't made any suggestions lately as I'm mainly looking for bugs/glitches/exploits.

Juggalo Juice
06-08-2015, 10:18 AM
I bought an Alienware Alpha console to be able to log onto the PTS.

Then look me up on PC/NA and send a friend invite.

KILLSHOT707
06-08-2015, 10:20 AM
so,im just curious now..because those guns look Sick and of course cant be earned like they Should Be.

whats the Purpose in playing Any of the events or expos or hey anything<< for that matter to Earn guns/mods when the Best ones can only be Purchased thru the bitstore?????

you have basically in one fell swoop made everything a waste of time.
did you Forget some of us Paid already??..bought the game,bought the dlc-s??
we cant even get what we were Supposed to get Unless we do your expos..and it keeps getting worse.

so to Add to the crappy Rng of this game,now All the stuff we farm for is Useless and outdated because hey,you- trion - are greedy and want to try to milk us.

does anyone else see the end of this game looming??
can someone explain the logic?

and to K man,seeing as you are on the test servers,i have a question for you Sir.
do they Ever listen to your recommendations?

Some of my best guns that I have are the ones I earned in the game. The end would be if they did not get people to spend money on this game. Look at all the FTP players out there. Are they all spending money to keep the staff and servers going? They are making the patron pass and other items in the bit store worth the money.That's a good thing. Way better than the backpack boxes were. Those spinal tap guns are going to be sold by players in game, just like any other gun. Only people broke in game and in real life are going to have a problem.

Cobra Crusher
06-08-2015, 10:28 AM
It will only be purchasable through the bit store.

WHAAAAAT? OKKKKKKKKK! (In Lil Jon voice)

Ray8888
06-09-2015, 02:13 AM
Only people broke in game and in real life are going to have a problem.

lol
Very true. Those of us with money dont have time, those of us with time dont have money. If you dont have either...

JOCCO5150
06-09-2015, 03:28 AM
Yes they do. I have the blast rifle in syphon with an OJ fire rate roll. It's a life saver for sure. This is a great synergy.

Shhhhhh. Don't say that too loud. I can see the nerf coming. Syphon and 11%, how long will that last?

Infinity Eagle
06-09-2015, 04:18 AM
On the last live stream they said that there are 8 different weapons in the spinal tap boxes, not sure what the last two are.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st5_zps7fewmiw4.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st4_zpssfyf1rfn.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st3_zpsqhjhegnk.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st2_zpsifh43z0k.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st1_zpse05fyvuc.jpg
With the blast rifle, that is six.
Anyone know what the last two are?

Johnny Gatt
06-09-2015, 06:08 AM
I am looking forward to this box when it hits consoles. The same goes for the super deluxe elite box. I want the JP canker!!!!!

Jerrmy12
06-09-2015, 12:04 PM
Some of my best guns that I have are the ones I earned in the game. The end would be if they did not get people to spend money on this game. Look at all the FTP players out there. Are they all spending money to keep the staff and servers going? They are making the patron pass and other items in the bit store worth the money.That's a good thing. Way better than the backpack boxes were. Those spinal tap guns are going to be sold by players in game, just like any other gun. Only people broke in game and in real life are going to have a problem.

Yeah, they'll be sold in game, for over 3 mil per for anything decent.

xXxDSMer
06-10-2015, 12:12 AM
Shhhhhh. Don't say that too loud. I can see the nerf coming. Syphon and 11%, how long will that last?

If it does last, I want purge syn syphon converters for all of my hellfires. lol

JOCCO5150
06-10-2015, 12:41 AM
If it does last, I want purge syn syphon converters for all of my hellfires. lol

There are never going to be purge syn syphon converters, but syphon + spinal tap will be better than hellfire by far. In fact spinal tap will be the best synergy out there in my opinion.

adrokier
06-10-2015, 01:28 AM
There are never going to be purge syn syphon converters, but syphon + spinal tap will be better than hellfire by far. In fact spinal tap will be the best synergy out there in my opinion.

Yeah seems, they ruin all our old weapons bought with money from lock boxes ... its like in the real world and old car from 1980 is not that fast like an car from 2015 ^^

thinking of crashing all my old guns ... a blue Grind Fragger without Mods has mor DMG then my old OJ Grind Fraggers with t4 or t5 Mods ^^sometimes ;) Have seen Grind Fraggers with 5K DMG t4 modded ^^ ... my best one "old casthi sweeper" hit near 4K DMG ... with t4 / t5 Mods in ^^

Jerrmy12
06-10-2015, 01:38 AM
There are never going to be purge syn syphon converters, but syphon + spinal tap will be better than hellfire by far. In fact spinal tap will be the best synergy out there in my opinion.
Or just get a radiation one...

Alexri
06-10-2015, 01:56 AM
People are exaggerating the usefulness of this synergy. I played with it a lot on PTS, and wasn't impressed.
Sure, the bonuses themselves are very good. No doubt about that. However, you also have to remember that:

1) All of these are stock weapon types, meaning that they don't have the increased base stats that some named variants do. You lose a lot of potential damage just from there. Compare a Spinal Tap Tachmag Pulser to a Hog Leg and the latter will have some of the bonuses of Spinal Tap built right into the gun, synergy-independent and part of the equation when bonuses are counted.

2) The drop rate for T5 mods is very, very, very, very, very low. I spent 40000 bits on PTS and got 3. As such, chances are you will be using T4 mods. A fairly typical SMG mod setup with e.g. cannoneer is to run stock and sight as T3/T4, and barrel and mag as T5. I may not be that much, but it's still 2% dmg and 10% mag that you're unlikely to get with Spinal Tap.

3) Chance is very much a factor. As I said, I had to spend 40000 bits on PTS to assemble a gun that didn't make me miss my live guns. Even then, it was still just good, not something that made me go "weeeee" for an hour.

That being said, Spinal Tap is good. However, I would say it's more of a "reward paying" thing than "pay to win". Defiance is a business and it just makes sense to have a system that rewards those who actually pay its bills. Spinal Tap will not break the game, however.


Note: Speaking PVE here. Couldn't possibly care any less about Defiance's so-called "PVP" mode.



Here's the gun that took 40000 bits to get and assemble:

http://i.imgur.com/7mi69sk.png

Jerrmy12
06-10-2015, 02:08 AM
People are exaggerating the usefulness of this synergy. I played with it a lot on PTS, and wasn't impressed.
Sure, the bonuses themselves are very good. No doubt about that. However, you also have to remember that:

1) All of these are stock weapon types, meaning that they don't have the increased base stats that some named variants do. You lose a lot of potential damage just from there. Compare a Spinal Tap Tachmag Pulser to a Hog Leg and the latter will have some of the bonuses of Spinal Tap built right into the gun, synergy-independent and part of the equation when bonuses are counted.

2) The drop rate for T5 mods is very, very, very, very, very low. I spent 40000 bits on PTS and got 3. As such, chances are you will be using T4 mods. A fairly typical SMG mod setup with e.g. cannoneer is to run stock and sight as T3/T4, and barrel and mag as T5. I may not be that much, but it's still 2% dmg and 10% mag that you're unlikely to get with Spinal Tap.

3) Chance is very much a factor. As I said, I had to spend 40000 bits on PTS to assemble a gun that didn't make me miss my live guns. Even then, it was still just good, not something that made me go "weeeee" for an hour.

That being said, Spinal Tap is good. However, I would say it's more of a "reward paying" thing than "pay to win". Defiance is a business and it just makes sense to have a system that rewards those who actually pay its bills. Spinal Tap will not break the game, however.


Note: Speaking PVE here. Couldn't possibly care any less about Defiance's so-called "PVP" mode.



Here's the gun that took 40000 bits to get and assemble:

http://i.imgur.com/7mi69sk.png

It's about the rof and lifesteal bonuses, like the bh weapons.

CaptainObvious
06-10-2015, 02:26 AM
Who need lifesteal when everything is dead before sunrise.

Jerrmy12
06-10-2015, 02:29 AM
Who need lifesteal when everything is dead before sunrise.
*ehem*
casuls

Or expedition stuff.

konstantinov
06-10-2015, 06:06 AM
*ehem*
casuls

Or expedition stuff.

Go kek at 4chan. I still don't understand what all it is.

Jerrmy12
06-10-2015, 06:07 AM
Go kek at 4chan. I still don't understand what all it is.
Kek means lel, which means lol, kek means lol. Kek and topkek are also foods.
And it's from /s4s. Just like the check em meme.

WhiteStrike
06-10-2015, 06:07 AM
do you get these from reg elite boxs?

No,only in bitstore boxes.

konstantinov
06-10-2015, 06:41 AM
Kek means lel, which means lol, kek means lol. Kek and topkek are also foods.
And it's from /s4s. Just like the check em meme.

This is Defiance not kekfest @ 4chan.

Jerrmy12
06-10-2015, 06:49 AM
This is Defiance not kekfest @ 4chan.
I don't even say kek that, also, who cares?
you're actually lucky I'm not treating you like how 4chan normally treats people who are new to 4chan stuff. Like I said, who cares.

xXxDSMer
06-10-2015, 02:06 PM
On the last live stream they said that there are 8 different weapons in the spinal tap boxes, not sure what the last two are.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st5_zps7fewmiw4.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st4_zpssfyf1rfn.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st3_zpsqhjhegnk.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st2_zpsifh43z0k.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st1_zpse05fyvuc.jpg
With the blast rifle, that is six.
Anyone know what the last two are?

A friend got a saw, although idk which kind of saw it was... but can say pretty surely that one of the 8 is an LMG.

Also seen mention in zone of a spinal tap det mag... although I'm kinda doubting one of the 8 is a det

stefb42
06-10-2015, 02:50 PM
A friend got a saw, although idk which kind of saw it was... but can say pretty surely that one of the 8 is an LMG.

Also seen mention in zone of a spinal tap det mag... although I'm kinda doubting one of the 8 is a det

Just the frc saw, with spinal tap syn and bio nano

Claydough
06-10-2015, 07:51 PM
Better not be a saw because
A, we already have a lifesteal saw
B, the synergy is designed for high ammo consumption guns, ie the thunder

xXxDSMer
06-10-2015, 10:14 PM
Better not be a saw because
A, we already have a lifesteal saw
B, the synergy is designed for high ammo consumption guns, ie the thunder

It is a saw.
Don't already have a lifesteal saw with: nanoless, radiation, bio, syphon, or electric (purge is only fire nano).
The synergy is designed for the weapons that it's on, which is actually quite a wide range of weapons.

JOCCO5150
06-10-2015, 11:05 PM
Just the frc saw, with spinal tap syn and bio nano

This would b a good gun for expeditions

Mister Derpenhowser
06-11-2015, 03:54 AM
I got some decent weapons, and a fair few ojs and t4 mods from the 11 crates I got but only 2 stocks... both t3s. RnG is a b**** and I dont have cash to be buying more. Only got one weapon with full syn unlocked and that has the wrong barrel type on

SirServed
06-11-2015, 04:53 AM
This would b a good gun for expeditions
If the sole purpose of Expeditions was to break enemy Armor Plates, you'd be onto something.

Claydough
06-11-2015, 05:29 AM
saw is way too weak to go near exp.

Mister Derpenhowser
06-11-2015, 06:55 AM
Decided to buy a last and final 13th crate, pulled souleater ^^ canker got crushed into oblivion, obviously. Lol

Inde
06-11-2015, 07:25 AM
I also got the Souleater, which says it doesn't spawn bugs. But it does. Bugged?

Mister Derpenhowser
06-11-2015, 07:32 AM
I also got the Souleater, which says it doesn't spawn bugs. But it does. Bugged?

Cankers spawn bugs upon death, unlike infectors which spawn bugs when the host is still alive

Inde
06-11-2015, 08:10 AM
It's an infector, and the description says it doesn't spawn bugs. I assume this means "never", and the bugs spawn after the host dies. Was curious why that would be the case. But thanks for the response.

eaglepowers
06-11-2015, 08:15 AM
So do these live weapons have any manufacturer or faction bonuses?

Claydough
06-11-2015, 01:18 PM
Souleater is very underwhelming

hiban
06-11-2015, 02:29 PM
Pay-To-Win synergy? Seriously?

This just broke the record of stabbing the back of your playerbase, Trion.

I'm very disappointed.

http://media.giphy.com/media/1zOggkwwUyB8c/giphy.gif

Ray8888
06-11-2015, 02:45 PM
It's five bucks the market will be flooded with them. It's day 2 and there's a ton for sale in zone.

Jerrmy12
06-11-2015, 04:25 PM
It's five bucks the market will be flooded with them. It's day 2 and there's a ton for sale in zone.

Yes, but alot of people will sell and do sell them for a very expensive price.
had 1 person trying to sell for 2 mil soon.

Rarnok
06-11-2015, 04:39 PM
On the last live stream they said that there are 8 different weapons in the spinal tap boxes, not sure what the last two are.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st5_zps7fewmiw4.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st4_zpssfyf1rfn.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st3_zpsqhjhegnk.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st2_zpsifh43z0k.jpghttp://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh222/infinityeagle/st1_zpse05fyvuc.jpg
With the blast rifle, that is six.
Anyone know what the last two are?

There are only 7 weapon types in the spinal tap box, those six plus the saw.

Claydough
06-11-2015, 04:45 PM
You know what'd be awesome? The the weapons selection was rotated every month so that we can get other weapon types too.

Rarnok
06-11-2015, 04:57 PM
You know what'd be awesome? The the weapons selection was rotated every month so that we can get other weapon types too.

That's exactly what we plan to do. When we release a new synergy box the weapon types in the box will be geared towards that synergy. Once the next synergy is up on PTS feel free to hop on and give feedback about weapon types you would like to see with that synergy.

SageSyndicate
06-11-2015, 07:15 PM
do you get these from reg elite boxs?I got my fair share of good mods t5 and tons of t4s with good guns loved these lock boxes and its my 3rd week playing :DD

Claydough
06-11-2015, 07:59 PM
That's exactly what we plan to do. When we release a new synergy box the weapon types in the box will be geared towards that synergy. Once the next synergy is up on PTS feel free to hop on and give feedback about weapon types you would like to see with that synergy.

I mean rotate the weapons in the current synergy box.

Mister Derpenhowser
06-11-2015, 08:13 PM
As far as my understanding goes with these new crates, the jackpot will change every two weeks and I think the entire crate changes every month, new synergy/jackpot and probably an entirely new list of standard weapons.

Ray8888
06-11-2015, 08:23 PM
Yes, but alot of people will sell and do sell them for a very expensive price.
had 1 person trying to sell for 2 mil soon.

Its day two. The weekend hasnt even started yet. Those zone prices are gonna freefall fast.

Cobra Crusher
06-11-2015, 09:02 PM
Its day two. The weekend hasnt even started yet. Those zone prices are gonna freefall fast.

Seen 12 mill today for ST oj lol.