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Midnight
09-27-2015, 03:33 PM
Or, The Ballad of Berta...

This is taking so long I have decided to make a record of how long it takes to get my favorite gun supremed.

This is Berta:
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=82_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=37_me=_b=719;752;7 35;732;_ego=5911_mod=472;905;904;932_mas=66.jpg

She's my favorite gun for real hairy situations. Since supreme weapons have come out she's the only one I have even tried to upgrade...4,250 arkforge later she's still merely legendary... I spent 1800 on opening day with 6 15% and 3 5% chances...then the next 700 AF went to 7 5% chances...since then I have stuck to 15%, because I still believe it gives you the best AF to % ratio...all in all I have tried to upgrade this gun 22 times so far with no success...I guess I also made this thread in case anyone else wants to share any supreming horror stories

Fallen_Aingeal
09-27-2015, 03:44 PM
I started down the same road with a BHAR. After 2400AF, I decided I would wait until I had the 3300. No sense continuing to torment myself...

Claydough
09-27-2015, 03:51 PM
My first upgrade cost me 3500 until i came to my sences and then upgraded for 3200.

Skiller115
09-27-2015, 03:51 PM
I haven't failed a Supreme yet!

Dixie Cougar
09-27-2015, 04:39 PM
My Maid cost over 6000 to turn peach. Wife's Beelzebub, around 3000. My wolfman has about 3k in it and it's still orange.

Have had some lucky breaks though. My GA turned peach at 5% on the first try. Gambled a clanmate's Duster at 15% and got it on the first try.

Midnight
09-28-2015, 07:30 PM
Another 250 AF down the drain today...

Smokey Black
09-28-2015, 09:03 PM
2500+AF to date on 5/10/15/25/30/35 %chances on my piper. No RNG love.

Gaige12
09-28-2015, 09:09 PM
I got my Empousa to turn banana on the 2nd or 3rd try at 5%. Haven't tried another gun yet as I figure RNGesus would seek revenge. :)

Smokey Black
09-28-2015, 09:17 PM
I cry on the inside when I see 5% chances work...not because I can't get it to work for more but because I know there is someone who failed a 95% chance.

Lamar Kendrick
09-29-2015, 02:52 AM
1000af trying to supreme my piper.... forge down the drain :(

i cried on the inside

Olaf
09-29-2015, 03:20 AM
1000af trying to supreme my piper.... forge down the drain :(

i cried on the inside

I have bad luck too, but after trading a t6 piper for supernova, I figured I'd try 100af on the dc11 mk1 I had and it supremed first time =)
The nova on other hand, took 750 af just to get dmg master and about 750-1k in failed supreme so far.

SaikoTeek
09-29-2015, 03:29 AM
Sting in 5 @ 5%
Piper in 10 @ 5%

Since then, I've been randomly dropping 5%s into a dc3, dc2 and an ss gp w no luck.

I figure one will hit eventually. Knowing it's RNG, I'm not going to try and force the issue, or I'd go broke doing so. I learned my lesson buying keys for lockboxes.

Olaf
09-29-2015, 03:55 AM
Sting in 5 @ 5%
Piper in 10 @ 5%

Since then, I've been randomly dropping 5%s into a dc3, dc2 and an ss gp w no luck.

I figure one will hit eventually. Knowing it's RNG, I'm not going to try and force the issue, or I'd go broke doing so. I learned my lesson buying keys for lockboxes.

That's exactly the way, when you least expect it to succeed it will. I for one wasn't expecting 5% to work as all previous attempts failed. I think having a few to work on helps too, so you can say to yourself "OK that one failed last time, let's try this one then that one.". That feeling may dissipate after a week or 2 of more failures though lol.

Also expect it to fail, that way you may be pleasantly surprised when it succeeds!

MIIKKAA
09-29-2015, 05:16 AM
For some reason, every one i know supremed their weapons with 5,10 or 15%. No idea why, but the average is around 5 tryes. (my self included. In fact i supremed my st bio saw at 6th try with a 5% chance.):confused::confused:

TNO
09-29-2015, 07:01 AM
It took me four tries to supreme a perforator and I spent well over 2k af to supreme my piper.
I always use the 10% chance.

Midnight
10-02-2015, 09:00 AM
Tried 10%...failed...4675 and counting

Ea Rapture
10-02-2015, 09:14 AM
Tried my PS VBI AR at 15% and got it on the first try. I was ecstatic

David Irwin
10-02-2015, 09:38 AM
I've had 2 successes on supremes so far. I tried 5%'s , 10%'s, and 15%'s only had success on 15% . the RNG gods were smiling on me and on my very first try I had success, but it took a few tries over the course of a couple weeks for the second. tried a couple times for a 3rd, but not to much . prolly spent about 2200AF so far. I don't think I'll be trying very often either. It really didn't seem to make the items all that much better, they are just the new trendy color now...

Johnny Gatt
10-02-2015, 09:53 AM
Or, The Ballad of Berta...

This is taking so long I have decided to make a record of how long it takes to get my favorite gun supremed.

This is Berta:
http://www.defiancedata.com/weapon/m=82_r=Legendary_e=Biological_s=37_me=_b=719;752;7 35;732;_ego=5911_mod=472;905;904;932_mas=66.jpg

She's my favorite gun for real hairy situations. Since supreme weapons have come out she's the only one I have even tried to upgrade...4,250 arkforge later she's still merely legendary... I spent 1800 on opening day with 6 15% and 3 5% chances...then the next 700 AF went to 7 5% chances...since then I have stuck to 15%, because I still believe it gives you the best AF to % ratio...all in all I have tried to upgrade this gun 22 times so far with no success...I guess I also made this thread in case anyone else wants to share any supreming horror stories

I have supremed about ten of my favorite items.... with various success rates. My Guardian Angel super on fist shot for 175 Af. My other items were all named guns that super after 3 or 4 tries at 175 Af each shot. Like you I had a spinal tap saw that I really liked that I wanted to supreme. It was the hardest item for me to supreme. It cost nearly 5000 Af to upgrade that one. From what I hear from other players, spinal tap seems to be the hardest to supreme as well.

Midnight
10-02-2015, 10:58 AM
I have supremed about ten of my favorite items.... with various success rates. My Guardian Angel super on fist shot for 175 Af. My other items were all named guns that super after 3 or 4 tries at 175 Af each shot. Like you I had a spinal tap saw that I really liked that I wanted to supreme. It was the hardest item for me to supreme. It cost nearly 5000 Af to upgrade that one. From what I hear from other players, spinal tap seems to be the hardest to supreme as well.

I surpremed it in 2 15% tries on test, I think that made my expectations a little unrealistic...Got a reload supreme roll and I was really impressed with what that did to the overall reload time...this is my one project gun...I'll be spending AF hand over fist until I get it as perfect as I can...just need to get over this hump to see what tier I'll re-roll...then on to re-mastery

Aluracai
10-02-2015, 03:47 PM
30 + tries piper @5% thinking I could beat the odds, what was I thinking.....now just going to save 3300!

Midnight
10-06-2015, 01:21 AM
2 More 10% tries, no joy...5025 and counting...

Dixie Cougar
10-06-2015, 01:47 AM
Finally peached my Wolfman. Cost around 3.5k forge, I think. More relieved than thrilled at this point.

I saved a lot so I can absorb the hit, but I think the playerbase in general would be less demoralized and cynical if they would tighten the bell curve for RNG on these things. Surely there is a revenue neutral way to do this?

SirServed
10-06-2015, 01:53 AM
Finally peached my Wolfman. Cost around 3.5k forge, I think. More relieved than thrilled at this point.

I saved a lot so I can absorb the hit, but I think the playerbase in general would be less demoralized and cynical if they would tighten the bell curve for RNG on these things. Surely there is a revenue neutral way to do this?
There will be no neutrality, only conquest.

MIIKKAA
10-06-2015, 04:57 AM
I surpremed it in 2 15% tries on test, I think that made my expectations a little unrealistic...Got a reload supreme roll and I was really impressed with what that did to the overall reload time...this is my one project gun...I'll be spending AF hand over fist until I get it as perfect as I can...just need to get over this hump to see what tier I'll re-roll...then on to re-mastery

I got reload supreme roll on my st bio saw as well. Im using a fast reload mag atm. The reload time is 0.5 with a 138 mag (oj natural mag roll)

Just crazy.:cool:

Olaf
10-06-2015, 05:04 AM
I got reload supreme roll on my st bio saw as well. Im using a fast reload mag atm. The reload time is 0.5 with a 138 mag (oj natural mag roll)

Just crazy.:cool:

Yes lol, you reload so fast with that saw.
As for supremes, I think each failed attempt should add up, so that after 3300 has been spent it's guaranteed supreme.

Trick83
10-06-2015, 06:30 AM
Yes lol, you reload so fast with that saw.
As for supremes, I think each failed attempt should add up, so that after 3300 has been spent it's guaranteed supreme.

With the AF nerfs, putting a price that high on it was stupid to begin with. Combine it with the 95% means you're still screwed rng and it was shortbus pants on head licks windows stupid.

I have 5-6 that I'd upgrade, and buy forge to do it to at least 1, but not at $100 a frackin gun!

Midnight
10-06-2015, 09:06 AM
Yes lol, you reload so fast with that saw.
As for supremes, I think each failed attempt should add up, so that after 3300 has been spent it's guaranteed supreme.

I have said this on another thread somewhere...how about a supreme weapon AF cap...doesn't even need to be 3300...could be 4000 or 5000...at least each time you fail you know you are working towards something...would take some of the sting out of each successive failure...while some people would still choose to buy AF to guarantee it on the first try

HappyJappy
10-06-2015, 09:10 AM
Yes lol, you reload so fast with that saw.
As for supremes, I think each failed attempt should add up, so that after 3300 has been spent it's guaranteed supreme.

This most likely will never happen because that completely removes the point of the gambling and the 100% chance.

Smokey Black
10-06-2015, 09:26 AM
Supremed my maid mk1 first try at 5% yesterday. The difference in power is noticeable can't wait to drop some expo bosses. And the weird thing is I'm down with the velocity roll now been using new boomer with one and adapted now I aim low and shoot far.