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Menetekel
01-03-2016, 11:57 AM
I don't understand this... After wasting 1000 AF on supreming chances I said F it and decided just to save up the 3300 AF and get a guaranteed upgrade. I could easily have wasted another 3300 without ever getting a single supreme upgrade so... I know the cost of AF is ridiculous but then again so is the idea of losing all that rare hard to get AF on a chance too supreme as well.

Does anyone else save up to the 3300 AF or is it just me?

Ray8888
01-03-2016, 12:04 PM
I have 6 supremes I upgraded myself and none at 100%.
Sunk waaay more AF trying for Supe masteries than the actual Suping.

Mister Ree
01-03-2016, 12:14 PM
Coz I play 6 toons, all my AF is scattered and theres no way in hell I'm paying 3000+ AF to sup 1 weapon. Not that I've even sup'd anything yet, but I've hardly tried even tbh. Sup'd kramp to good to be true though, lol.

Menetekel
01-03-2016, 12:18 PM
I'm torn between my Krampus and Ironclad Guardian Shield as to what to supreme next. Gonna be a couple weeks but hay gives me time to figure it out lol.

Smokey Black
01-03-2016, 12:18 PM
Because you're wasting AF to guarantee it.

50% chance is about 1200 AF

the last 50%(to gaurntee 100%) is about 1900 AF

If I really want something supremed I wait until I have enough to do a 50%. I've done 3/3 supremed at 50%.

If I happen to fail I can try again at 50% and will almost certainly have my gun supremed for 700 less AF then rolling a 100%

I try lower %(less than 50%) on a lot of items I have and most of the time I fail and waste AF but I have got lucky once or twice.

Ray8888
01-03-2016, 12:27 PM
I'm torn between my Krampus and Ironclad Guardian Shield as to what to supreme next. Gonna be a couple weeks but hay gives me time to figure it out lol.

I agree, supreme Kramps... drool. Thats what Im going for now. Kramps then the Maid.

Dont really get suping sheilds however, it barely improves them.

EDIT - a word of warning, the supe Kramps gets a white Min Dmg roll which is still broken.

Menetekel
01-03-2016, 12:53 PM
No worries after I supreme it then it'll be a Sup damage roll added on afterwards... If your gonna spend might as well spend big right ;D

Olaf
01-03-2016, 12:57 PM
I only do 5%, expect it to fail and not disappointed. Have had 5 successful from 5s but alot of fails lol

Jack Robo
01-03-2016, 12:58 PM
i do 20% then 15% and if i dont get on 20% works on 15%
might just b 4 me but it works

Ray8888
01-03-2016, 01:02 PM
No worries after I supreme it then it'll be a Sup damage roll added on afterwards... If your gonna spend might as well spend big right ;D

Supe Kramps has blue dmg. I think the only rolls available for the white are velocity, Full Dmg Rad or Crit.

Menetekel
01-03-2016, 01:03 PM
Seriously... that's kinda ridiculous... It's suppose to have same rolls as a crash boomer which it's based off of. Gonna have to research this more. Thanks for the heads up.

Ray8888
01-03-2016, 01:04 PM
Its really stupid we have to waste a reroll to fix a broken roll.


EDIT - I am bumping the old thread so we dont continue to hijack this one.

Fenikkusu Gatou
01-03-2016, 01:39 PM
I think the real question is, from the OP, why do people under 5500 ego waste AF on Supreme Chances? Because I've seen guys lower than 2500e have Supreme Gear and I'm wondering if they realize what epic BLACK HOLE OF AF DRAIN they've created. I'm not going to even consider supreme until I am 5500 or higher. (5300 right now). -Just saying.

YahootsMagoondi
01-03-2016, 04:45 PM
even better question...why do people waste arkforge on the most insane weapons? i love inspecting random people at events and fast travels...i've seen some doozies...vot longshot cannon may be one of the best. i also own a volge typhoon ar that i got in a trade for something...it makes me lolz every time i scroll past it in my inventory.

SirServed
01-03-2016, 05:09 PM
even better question...why do people waste arkforge on the most insane weapons? i love inspecting random people at events and fast travels...i've seen some doozies...vot longshot cannon may be one of the best. i also own a volge typhoon ar that i got in a trade for something...it makes me lolz every time i scroll past it in my inventory.
Someone on PCNA has that beat... FRC Bull Rush 45.

Silent_0ne
01-03-2016, 06:03 PM
Someone on PCNA has that beat... FRC Bull Rush 45.

Volge battle rifle mk iv............

A_D3MON
01-03-2016, 06:36 PM
Because you're wasting AF to guarantee it.

50% chance is about 1200 AF

the last 50%(to gaurntee 100%) is about 1900 AF

If I really want something supremed I wait until I have enough to do a 50%. I've done 3/3 supremed at 50%.

If I happen to fail I can try again at 50% and will almost certainly have my gun supremed for 700 less AF then rolling a 100%

I try lower %(less than 50%) on a lot of items I have and most of the time I fail and waste AF but I have got lucky once or twice.

That's not exactly how it works... 50% is like flipping a coin... Flip a coin get tails and then flipping it again does not guarantee a heads... Plus the full cost is 3300... 50% chance is about 1200 and that means the difference is about 2100... And even then if u have extremely bad luck u mite fail 2 times then get it on 3rd try meaning u wasted about 300 af

Skiller115
01-03-2016, 06:56 PM
:p
Someone on PCNA has that beat... FRC Bull Rush 45.

Someone tried to offer me a nanoless ego 925 Supreme VBI Ranger with gold roll rerolled to peach damage

Fenikkusu Gatou
01-03-2016, 08:02 PM
even better question...why do people waste arkforge on the most insane weapons? i love inspecting random people at events and fast travels...i've seen some doozies...vot longshot cannon may be one of the best. i also own a volge typhoon ar that i got in a trade for something...it makes me lolz every time i scroll past it in my inventory.

LOL. This.

PTR47
01-03-2016, 08:34 PM
Someone on PCNA has that beat... FRC Bull Rush 45.

I picked up a Supreme Wolverine. It's still a bit of a mystery gun. 3/4 synergy with a melee stock and bio converter. I mostly just eye it suspiciously from time to time.

Artur Gibraltar
01-04-2016, 03:24 AM
I don't understand this... After wasting 1000 AF on supreming chances I said F it and decided just to save up the 3300 AF and get a guaranteed upgrade. I could easily have wasted another 3300 without ever getting a single supreme upgrade so... I know the cost of AF is ridiculous but then again so is the idea of losing all that rare hard to get AF on a chance too supreme as well.

Does anyone else save up to the 3300 AF or is it just me?
Total lost 3900 arkforge and my piper still not gold . I will not buy for real money, anything in this store. I do not trust Trion . not tired of paying for the thing itself and for the chance to get it. Casino is a stupid system.

NullWolf
01-04-2016, 06:22 AM
I've supreme'd my DC-9, a Sovereign Det, and Tombstone all using just the 5% a grand total of 3 times each.

Having said that I've put in around 1500 af over time trying to do my GA but that thing just eats forge like it was candy.

stefb42
01-04-2016, 11:19 AM
Why do we waste ark forge on supreme chances?

Well I can say I have supremed at least 8 items, I can also tell you I have spent nowhere near the 26,400 ark forge it would require to guarantee the upgrades for these 8 items

Johnny Gatt
01-04-2016, 05:46 PM
Why do we waste ark forge on supreme chances?

Well I can say I have supremed at least 8 items, I can also tell you I have spent nowhere near the 26,400 ark forge it would require to guarantee the upgrades for these 8 items

I have done 11 items, mostly on 10% chance. I have gotten lucky a few times on first attempt, and a rare few that ate up forge. The average number of attempts for me was around 3. At 175 forge per attempt not too bad. I would not have been able to supreme them all waiting for 100%.
I don't supreme weapons to turn around and sell them. I pick the guns I like to use the most, so for me the time and effort spent getting them supremed was worth it. IMO trying to get a good mastery roll on an oj gun can be just as frustrating and just as costly as trying to go gold. I spent more arkforge trying to get dmg mastery on a X2 dmg ps blast rifle than all 11 guns that I supremed.

ROAGE
01-04-2016, 09:14 PM
Keep thinking that

Kuroro
01-04-2016, 09:20 PM
15% works better than what you think

Smokey Black
01-04-2016, 09:27 PM
15% works better than what you think

derp...I know what I know..

Crack
01-04-2016, 09:43 PM
Because supremes are extremely overrated @ 3300af, but worth it if you get lucky with a 5% thrown at them here and there. Three supremes cost me a total of 900af. Luck saved me about 9000af. The house always wins at 100% chances. lol

A_D3MON
01-04-2016, 10:07 PM
derp...I know what I know..

apparently not when it comes to gambling... Again 50% chance is like flipping a coin... Saying that it'll b heads and it lands on tails does NOT mean it'll b heads on the second flip

PTR47
01-04-2016, 10:42 PM
apparently not when it comes to gambling... Again 50% chance is like flipping a coin... Saying that it'll b heads and it lands on tails does NOT mean it'll b heads on the second flip

Apparently the odds are slightly in favour of landing with whatever side was up when the coin was thrown.

dremora ven0m
01-05-2016, 12:52 AM
Have dumped so much af into 1 of my pipers I am saving up now for 100%
I think it comes down to the rng we are given when we make a toon, it sucks on both mine so I have very few supremes.

dremora ven0m
01-05-2016, 12:54 AM
Just to add, by my useless rng @ both events & supreming its always they 1s who drop multipy jps that "say" they supreme all theirs @ 5% 1st or 2nd time!!!

Vetula
01-05-2016, 03:19 AM
i do all time 15% ( 250 af ) , most time i get it on 2 or 3 trys... much better trying it on this way as with 3300 af....