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Leopenza1915
01-31-2016, 09:24 PM
Who is better? Why?

crazyged
01-31-2016, 11:42 PM
Neither.

Dancing Lady.

DEATHBRINGER210
02-01-2016, 03:15 AM
Neither.

Dancing Lady.

^ i agree with this

sephiroth1
02-01-2016, 03:43 AM
Neither.

Dancing Lady.

yes. the lady is queen

vgta
02-01-2016, 04:25 AM
but the dancing lady is not a tachmag -_-

doctordabs
02-01-2016, 04:37 AM
Dancing lady isn't in question here so why is it part of the convo?

The hogleg, in my opinion is one of the single highest dps guns in the game for raw damage...
the needler is comperable in almost every day minus the vbi faction bonus you dont get, and the hog leg has a bonus 30% reload reduction when hp is low, the needler doesn't have that feature, and the needler can't be rerolled or supremed...

so..

hands down hogleg
specifically if you can get a Canoneer Rad or Bio hogleg

Logain
02-01-2016, 04:46 AM
Needler.

Has more built in bonuses that even named Tachmags cannot compete with Cannoneer Needler's DPS (well at least currently, Sweet Nothings might change that picture). Hogleg has only the VBI reload bonus trigger. Even as an OJ, Cannoneer Needler will beat supreme Hoglegs.

doctordabs
02-01-2016, 05:50 AM
in what, logaine? dpm or dps or what..

Frankly i can't see people measuring things in terms of dpm.. it's inconsistant to rely on humans not to err.

Logain
02-01-2016, 05:59 AM
DPS.

Needler has built-in ~5% DMG, 5% Firerate, ~15% Reload bonuses.

EDIT: Supreme Unicorn rolled cannoneer Hog Legs (and supreme unicorn ST TMP) can beat an OJ Cannoneer Needler.

DEPHIC
02-01-2016, 08:30 AM
Unicorn Hoglegs used to be the best until the new rolls came out, now they're dps is almost identical to a needler. There's really not a huge difference between them except being able to gold the Hogs. Maybe by 2018 we will get to gold our needlers finally. :mad:

doctordabs
02-01-2016, 04:58 PM
I <3 my canoneer bio hoggy

Mrdr
02-01-2016, 06:13 PM
Got an electric stalker hogleg. Seems to work decently for pvp.

Mister Ree
02-01-2016, 06:31 PM
A well rolled hogleg with the right synergy/nano is better than a needler. Finding a well rolled hogleg is the issue. Lol

Ea Rapture
02-01-2016, 06:41 PM
A well rolled hogleg with the right synergy/nano is better than a needler. Finding a well rolled hogleg is the issue. Lol

I thought finding well rolled anything was hard. Lol.

konstantinov
02-01-2016, 06:49 PM
3x DMG bio QM hogleg.

Mister Ree
02-01-2016, 07:26 PM
I thought finding well rolled anything was hard. Lol.

16 months of weekly crates on multiple toons and I've pulled 7 ojs from gunslinger crates, a sniper, a shotty, 3 dets & 2 nanoless eec smgs. Gotta love rng.

MasterProtector
02-01-2016, 09:19 PM
i vote hog leg, i have a nat bio oj fire rate one matching the fire rate of your typical needler so fire rate wise they are the same mine is grenadier so its a laser :D the difference in my opinion is needler rolls are set where you have to pull a good rolled hog leg but gunslinger guns are unique and powerful in their own ways bu personal preferences and all that.

Andron Rul
02-02-2016, 12:25 AM
Who is better? Why?
better - Wolfman

Yo_florinuTz
02-02-2016, 02:39 AM
hog leg its the best.. trust me

doctordabs
02-02-2016, 05:28 AM
16 months of weekly crates on multiple toons and I've pulled 7 ojs from gunslinger crates, a sniper, a shotty, 3 dets & 2 nanoless eec smgs. Gotta love rng.

about the same but less oj's...
my hogleg is pretty well rolled but thats cuz i got it purple and put time and energy into upgrades and rerolls... canoneer hogless bio with a very nice fire rate and i can't decide if i want to forego the 4th syn bonus in lieu of a t5 power bore

Mister Ree
02-02-2016, 09:14 AM
about the same but less oj's...
my hogleg is pretty well rolled but thats cuz i got it purple and put time and energy into upgrades and rerolls... canoneer hogless bio with a very nice fire rate and i can't decide if i want to forego the 4th syn bonus in lieu of a t5 power bore

The built in gunslinger bonus lessens with each tier downgrade. I've pulled a few t4 hoglegs in the past but t5 is what I'd like.

Leopenza1915
02-02-2016, 11:48 AM
I have 1 Bio Stalker Hog Leg 3 t4 and 1 t2 LOL, and a needler electric nano cannoner syn fully t4ed.. I use my hog leg for warmaster, and my needler for pvp.

Leopenza1915
02-02-2016, 11:49 AM
But hog leg need Low health for a fast reload.. Needler have a fast reload all the time..