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clubside
06-30-2016, 04:50 AM
Howdy!

Anyone out there know how the current day/night cycle works? For a while it seemed a simple 45 minutes of day then 15 minutes of night but there was drift so obviously I missed something. I've done a bunch of searches and can't find any answer here or on the web in general.

I'm looking for something definitive for a project IO'm working on and it would help with some of the videos I'm shooting rather than running around doing emergencies waiting for the sun to come up lol

konstantinov
06-30-2016, 05:45 AM
Random is random.

VesperLynd
06-30-2016, 05:51 AM
The night is dark and full of terrors

PithHelmetIrath
06-30-2016, 06:02 AM
Sounds like a great question for a member of the dev team to answer.. devs? Devs?

konstantinov
06-30-2016, 06:17 AM
Sounds like a great question for a member of the dev team to answer.. devs? Devs?

They've already stated that due to people wanting it to mirror their day/night cycle they are unable to provide such requests. Hopping phases is probably your best (only) bet.

Bentu
06-30-2016, 06:18 AM
There was a member who asked for the nights to last longer as he prefers to play then, he was a sniper rifle collector and his name had Blue in it.
Don't know if that helps in any way with searches etc.

Clarity Page
07-01-2016, 11:40 AM
They've already stated that due to people wanting it to mirror their day/night cycle they are unable to provide such requests. Hopping phases is probably your best (only) bet.



I would understand the devs not giving such info if someone wanted to copy it for there own game, however if some one wants it to help create a unofficial Defiance companion App to aid players or create a video (that will actually help promote Defiance) then I don't see why they cant give the info to the OP, possibly make them sign a non disclosure form if they feel its that necessary

Skullsuku
07-01-2016, 12:12 PM
Howdy!

Anyone out there know how the current day/night cycle works? For a while it seemed a simple 45 minutes of day then 15 minutes of night but there was drift so obviously I missed something. I've done a bunch of searches and can't find any answer here or on the web in general.

I'm looking for something definitive for a project IO'm working on and it would help with some of the videos I'm shooting rather than running around doing emergencies waiting for the sun to come up lol

For the time that I play it has been almost always night as of late for some reason, night isn't bad I like it but this is just too dark, and all of the time is just too much. Just sending more ppl. away, I guess they all have jobs lined up so they just bring us closer to the end game.

clubside
07-02-2016, 01:42 PM
For anyone looking to help nail down the specifics I have captured 6 hours of footage from Shondu's Consulate where both the moon and sunrise events are visible. I created a timelapse of 6 minutes from this and hope to figure things out soon!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=va562V-4QFY

EvilKam
07-04-2016, 09:31 AM
Great idea, compressing 6 hours into 6 minutes means the conversions are super easy.
Okay, it's hard to pin down EXACT times for dusk and dawn, we can probably argue one or two minutes of real life in either direction. I'm watching it, and I have to judge from pure impression "Yeah, that's like, what dawn should be, probably". So take this as very rough measurements. We could argue this for months, I'm sure.

0:26 dusk
0:46 dawn (20 minute night)
1:38 dusk (50 minute day, so dawn should hit right around 1:58)
1:50 dawn (just as predicted! dusk should be at 2:40)
2:48 dusk (Okay, my estimates are imperfect. It's hard to judge ambient lighting intensities XD. This makes a 58 minute day.
3:09 dawn (so a 21 minute night? I HAVE to be close, but yeah, it's hard to guess a perfect cycle)
4:01 dusk ( 53 minute day.)
4:22 dawn (21 minute night. Hey, I finally have a consistent reading, lol)
5:14 dusk (52 minute day)
5:34 dawn (20 minute night)

So, I'm going to estimate that we have a day lasting 55 minutes (between 50 and 58 right?), and a night scheduled for 20 minutes.

75 minute daycycles. Very weird number, but since it can be completely arbitrary, there's no reason why it has to line up with anything IRL.

clubside
07-04-2016, 10:49 AM
Thanks EvilKam! I did my own breakdown in two steps as well as projection testing and seeing if the same pattern comtinued the following day, which it did.

My first pass looked at the moonrise and sunrise from that vantage point:
08:31 Moon at top
09:01 Sun at top
09:43 Moon
10:13 Sun
10:55 Moon
11:25 Sun
12:07 Moon
12:37 Sun
01:19 Moon
01:49 Sun

The second pass gave me an offset of 1:12 or 72 minutes rather than 75:
08:20 Sundown
08:27 Darkness
08:47 Lightness
08:51 Sunup
09:31 Sundown
09:39 Darkness
09:59 Lightness
10:03 Sunup
10:43 Sundown
10:51 Darkness
11:11 Lightness
11:15 Sunup
11:55 Sundown
12:03 Darkness
12:23 Lightness
12:27 Sunup
01:07 Sundown
01:15 Darkness
01:35 Lightness
01:39 Sunup

Since I'm mostly concerned with "filmable" time I was looking for the "enough light" blocks which appear to be the 40 minutes between sun up and down with four minutes preceding where there's enough light and the clouds have returned.

TheRealDeal
07-04-2016, 02:24 PM
yeah i think its very random , i rarely ever see it become night time and when it does it gets VERY dark luckily it doesnt stay dark for long .