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xusdmovementx
06-08-2017, 10:08 PM
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Same rolls same t4 power bore but one is a JP that happens to show a significantly lower card DMG without any perks, rigs, or other bonuses that I know of. Yet the pyres syn dmg bonus is supposed to be higher. So what gives?

WhiteStrike
06-09-2017, 03:26 AM
108781087710876

Same rolls same t4 power bore but one is a JP that happens to show a significantly lower card DMG without any perks, rigs, or other bonuses that I know of. Yet the pyres syn dmg bonus is supposed to be higher. So what gives?

Either a visual bug (most likely) or Flames of Passion's damage bonus is actually applied after all other bonuses, whereas Hotstreak is applied to the base damage (can't test this myself since I don't have weapons of both those syns fully modded. But it's highly unlikely). That, or the 15% Damage bonus from Hot Streak is bugged. But it's probably just a visual bug.

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 06:05 AM
Either a visual bug (most likely) or Flames of Passion's damage bonus is actually applied after all other bonuses, whereas Hotstreak is applied to the base damage (can't test this myself since I don't have weapons of both those syns fully modded. But it's highly unlikely). That, or the 15% Damage bonus from Hot Streak is bugged. But it's probably just a visual bug. yea we thought so too(clanmates and I) but after trading around and unequipping everything it showed the same for everyone who looked at them. Also I checked each weapon individual as well to be sure the hot streak wasn't giving the off hand fop gun a bonus. Still showed the same higher dmg

Light Energy
06-09-2017, 08:58 AM
108781087710876

Same rolls same t4 power bore but one is a JP that happens to show a significantly lower card DMG without any perks, rigs, or other bonuses that I know of. Yet the pyres syn dmg bonus is supposed to be higher. So what gives?

Hi,

See: http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?258297-hot-streak-synergy-15-dmg-bug

Can you try the following steps on a scrap (blue for example) Hot Streak weapon, and post the screenshots please? :)



1. Put on 2 mods (not a barrel, to be make things easier, e.g. stock and sight).
2. Read the DMG value (take a screenshot).
3. Put on a 3rd mod (not a barrel, to be make things easier, e.g. a mag, but not a converter mag).
4. Read the DMG value again (take a screenshot).
5. Compare the DMG values.

All in the same load out etc; since that should keep all the other variables the same and the increase in damage should just be due to the 3rd part of the synergy.

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 08:46 PM
thanks for the suggestion light energy... heres what i found: http://tinypic.com/r/2hxvl2x/9 http://tinypic.com/r/x1zw9f/9 the tachmag seems to be getting the third syn bonus just fine.. interestingly enough though: http://tinypic.com/r/nytms6/9 http://tinypic.com/r/f1mxs0/9 the br doesnt get the bonus dmg lol. the barrel i used btw is a sustained power muzzle cuz i didnt have any stocks handy.

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 08:47 PM
well it appears i cant upload pics right now for some reason... trion attempting to hide the truth perhaps? o.O

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 08:50 PM
well its good the first attempts didnt go thru cuz they wouldve been huge pics lol

Skiller115
06-09-2017, 08:52 PM
The synergy works funny like Saturnalia you have to have the gun equipped to get the damage it also "boosts" the damage of your guns in your offhand and inventory but when you switch weapons you don't really get the boost.

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 09:09 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/zt6dqa.jpghttp://i63.tinypic.com/1686ipe.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ugjno4.jpghttp://i64.tinypic.com/nl4nl5.jpg

sorry theyre so blurry

xusdmovementx
06-09-2017, 09:11 PM
The synergy works funny like Saturnalia you have to have the gun equipped to get the damage it also "boosts" the damage of your guns in your offhand and inventory but when you switch weapons you don't really get the boost. not true at least the part about it showing a fake boost for offhand cuz i tried it with what i originally posted and it didnt have any effect on the offhand whether the pyre was equipped or not

Skiller115
06-09-2017, 10:16 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/zt6dqa.jpghttp://i63.tinypic.com/1686ipe.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ugjno4.jpghttp://i64.tinypic.com/nl4nl5.jpg

sorry theyre so blurry

How convenient that you don't show if the weapons are equipped or not, but I'm about to get you some proof.

Skiller115
06-09-2017, 10:25 PM
not true at least the part about it showing a fake boost for offhand cuz i tried it with what i originally posted and it didnt have any effect on the offhand whether the pyre was equipped or not

This is my testing setup no rigs or shields to boost damage.

http://i.imgur.com/U3IcmXL.jpg

This is with metamorph equipped (offhand)

http://i.imgur.com/cZ8GOZo.jpg

This is with wildfire equipped and you will see that Metamorph does more damage than wildfire even though it doesn't have damage in the synergy.

http://i.imgur.com/hLXPTD7.jpg

Light Energy
06-10-2017, 09:37 AM
Thanks for the images, xusdmovementx; I can just about see that the DMG value has not changed on the BR when 3 mods have been added (1126 vs 1126)
I'm going to do some more testing today with BRs...

However, it would be helpful to see the whole screen if possible :). And if you can show the load out including perks, shield and rig that might also be useful (as long as these stay the same the effects should be 'ignorable' since we are looking for a change).


well its good the first attempts didnt go thru cuz they wouldve been huge pics lol

First, if you can make the photos smaller (not crop, just resize to maybe 33%) that would make it easier for you to upload them etc.

Illustration (using one of Skiller115's photos):
https://s7.postimg.org/ty2g05t6j/crop_vs_resize.jpg
The is an illstration only, not actual size - the whole thing has been made smaller to fit on the forum web page! :D

Hope that makes sense :).

You can use most modern art packages (including free ones) should be able to do that easily :).

Then to upload them, use one of the free image hosting services as explained here:
http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?255458-Help