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Luis91
07-11-2017, 10:41 AM
What about a new system with 3 options:

**Added examples on guns n af cost because this not a on game real option this be subject to changes**

*Standard reroll - give u three roll options to chose : for example if u want reroll the oj min dmg of one gun this give u three random rolls for choice one like oj reload / fdr / dmg .

*af cost*
Af cost t1 ( t1 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]

Af cost t2 ( t2 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 2 af ]

Af cost t3 ( t3 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 2 af ]
[ t3 - 3 af ]

Af cost t4 ( t4 weapons only )

[ t1 - 6 af ]
[ t2 - 12 af ]
[ t3 - 35 af ]
[ t4 - 55 af ]

Af cost t5 ( t5 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 13 af ]
[ t3 - 40 af ]
[ t4 - 55 af ]
[ t5 - 120 af ]

Af cost t6 ( t6 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 10 af ]
[ t3 - 35 af ]
[ t4 - 90 af ]
[ t5 - 110 af ]
[ t6 - 150 af ]


*Custom reroll - give u all the options to chose a specific roll : for example if want reroll the t4 tier of one gun this option displays all the t4 rolls (this must include the t4 mag / recoil /reload etc..) for choice.

*af cost*
af cost t1 ( t1 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]

af cost t2 ( t2 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 2 af ]

af cost t3 ( t3 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 5 af ]
[ t3 - 8 af ]

af cost t4 ( t4 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 10 af ]
[ t3 - 15 af ]
[ t4 - 28 af ]

af cost t5 ( t5 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 13 af ]
[ t3 - 20 af ]
[ t4 - 35 af ]
[ t5 - 110 af ]

af cost t6 ( t6 weapons only )

[ t1 - 0 af ]
[ t2 - 12 af ]
[ t3 - 18 af ]
[ t4 - 25 af ]
[ t5 - 90 af ]
[ t6 - 120 af ]


*Special reroll - give u the chance to reroll 2 tier bonus of one gun but random.

_ Ill add for this later _

T4 new rolls ideas universal:

5% health on reload.
+7% critical on reload 10sec cold.
20% chance to full reload on kill.
+5% dmg to multiple targets.
+5% nano resistance.
-2% incoming health / shield dmg.
-1.5% incoming dmg.
+4% health / shield.
2% ammo regen on shield break.
15% self revive refresh chance on shield break n low on health.
on shield break stuns surrounding enemies for 5sec.
+5% plate resistance.

all gun types:

full dmg radius.
+2% nano dmg.
+5% reload on kill max stacks 2 10sec cold.
full reload grants +25% accuracy for 10 sec 20sec cold.

shotgun:

-25% reload speed on kill 15sec cold.
+5% movement speed.
random nano effect on melee kill 5sec duration.

assault rifle:

5% chance to trigger overcharge on kill 8sec duration.

FallenFireLucio
07-11-2017, 11:46 AM
What about a new system with 3 options:

*Standard reroll - give u three roll options to chose : for example if u want reroll the oj min dmg of one gun this give u three random rolls for choice one like oj reload / fdr / dmg .

*Custom reroll - give u all the options to chose a specific roll : for example if want reroll the t4 tier of one gun this option displays all the t4 rolls (this must include the t4 mag / recoil /reload etc..) for choice.

*Special reroll - give u the chance to reroll 2 tier bonus of one gun but random.

I can see this working. Though it may be a bit complex to understand.

- How much arkforge would each cost?
- Would it mean that you can Custom Roll Sawed Offs?
- Would Special Rolls be random as in you pick the two tiers or the tiers are picked for you?
- If the latter is the case, wouldn't many see the gamble as a bit unworth it if they could lose the a roll they like?

I'd love to see what ideas you have.

Luis91
07-11-2017, 12:14 PM
Hi, yep I have a bunch of ideas for new t4 rolls n mastery (for mastery I do another post or maybe add to this one) n what rolls I be want see in t4 for each gun type. For special roll system I be thinkin on the next:

A example: I have 1 t6 mazu br n it have t6 crit n t4 health steal but don't want any of those two I chose special roll option n chose the t6 n t4 tier to get a random roll on t6 n t4, now the t6 mazu have t6 dmg t4 recoil.

the same for standard, for example I chose t6 tier with crit roll n the option displays three random rolls like recoil, fallout n mag can chose one of the three displayed options. For custom the option give the chance to chose one roll of all available on selected tier.

FallenFireLucio
07-11-2017, 12:21 PM
Ah I see, but how much arkforge would I'd have to pay for such rolling choices? That'd play a huge roll in it.

Luis91
07-11-2017, 01:22 PM
I be post some af cost but I take in mind the next thinks for:

* with current roll system the af cost is on all rolls / gun tier but I be think if t1 reroll cost 5 af at oj with the 3 options that need down a bite that's why I down it to 0 af because people reroll more the t2 - t6 rolls.

* with this idea the af cost for reroll need a balance to be adjusted to those 3 options.

* af possible cost its just a possible reference but obvious it change.

For the t4 special rolls i need time to think in combinations for each gun the standard t4 list is more large than other tiers but I add some t4 rolls I want see in a future in the game.

konstantinov
07-12-2017, 03:22 AM
Your numbers don't make sense and seem to use reverse scaling. The t5 purple roll costs more than the t6 purple roll. I think other things need to be addressed before implementing such a drastic change.



PS- you're overcomplicating something a large portion of the community doesn't understand now.

Luis91
07-12-2017, 06:18 AM
Yup I know its just a reference, the actual cost are based on just one random roll and the system I proposed give 3 options to chose I know atm the af cost just say nothing but need be honest the balance based on new options its a little complicated or not, just because the three options give a different reroll I just put some af cost based a little on standard n here's why t4 need more af because I be thinkin in add all existed t4 rolls on new system to.give the chance to get t4 mag on any gun for example.
but if any say I refuse to pay X af for t4 roll the cost its not a real amount its just reference in constant change, that's why I don't add af cost to special option just think a option to give u the chance.to.get 2 tier reroll hm af u need waste for it a example oj roll in standard waste 100 af with that option maybe waste 200-220 af.
I have time but this need huge time for balance/rebalance af prices , o be add some new mastery I want see but that its other stuff.

tks for read.