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chow1116
02-13-2018, 10:18 AM
I'm making this thread just to throw the idea out there to see if it would be well received or for people to throw out pros/cons. I realize most pvp threads end up talking about personal stats, and I'm hoping this one kind of stays away from that lane.

I was talking with a few people and we all kind of agreed that this would be cool to see in defiance. Everyone can probably agree that pvp needs an overhaul. There is definitely an imbalance in pvp which has yet to be fixed (and I'm not so sure its possible anymore). But...

I think that aside from shadow war, it would be cool to see a legitimate capture the flag pvp option in the open world (or even a new map) with two bases and where you have to physically bring the flag to your base for the capture, and the person carrying the flag cant yield a weapon while doing so. It would definitely encourage a more team-based strategy to pvp instead of people being solely concerned with K/D.

It would also be cool to see other pvp styles seen in some other games too, like kill confirmed and stuff like that. Defiance allows for total customization of load outs and such which is a really cool aspect not seen in a lot of games. It would be cool to see the combination of being able to have customizable load outs and these pvp styles similar to other games. I feel it would add a certain level of strategy to pvp compared to its current meta.

Feel free to add input where you feel needed. Just interested in how others feel about it.

CalamityDusk
02-13-2018, 10:25 AM
I'm making this thread just to throw the idea out there to see if it would be well received or for people to throw out pros/cons. I realize most pvp threads end up talking about personal stats, and I'm hoping this one kind of stays away from that lane.

I was talking with a few people and we all kind of agreed that this would be cool to see in defiance. Everyone can probably agree that pvp needs an overhaul. There is definitely an imbalance in pvp which has yet to be fixed (and I'm not so sure its possible anymore). But...

I think that aside from shadow war, it would be cool to see a legitimate capture the flag pvp option in the open world (or even a new map) with two bases and where you have to physically bring the flag to your base for the capture, and the person carrying the flag cant yield a weapon while doing so. It would definitely encourage a more team-based strategy to pvp instead of people being solely concerned with K/D.

It would also be cool to see other pvp styles seen in some other games too, like kill confirmed and stuff like that. Defiance allows for total customization of load outs and such which is a really cool aspect not seen in a lot of games. It would be cool to see the combination of being able to have customizable load outs and these pvp styles similar to other games. I feel it would add a certain level of strategy to pvp compared to its current meta.

Feel free to add input where you feel needed. Just interested in how others feel about it.

Iím all for it but some things that would challenge anything balanced in this modes are

Speeds exceeding 300% movement speed

I can achieve 145% with just a common weapon and blur

Making it very easy to capture and dip out

You could also keep the flag hostage by putting bb rounds on it... etc


There would be heavy camping and how would cloak work with the flag?

Could you see where the flag is like in traditional ctf modes?

Would you get a speed penalty to compensate for the speed you can get

What would sludges be like in this one mod?

I think kill confirmed would be great with only the problem of bb rounds but even then thatís a iffy one

Anything that forces you to go in a certain area to win (very close) I donít think is a good idea

defiancegame
02-13-2018, 11:07 AM
Everyone can probably agree that pvp needs an overhaul. There is definitely an imbalance in pvp which has yet to be fixed (and I'm not so sure its possible anymore)
It just needs to be brought back to the way it was. Adding more maps would be fine too.

Kedarthebest
02-13-2018, 11:31 AM
Let's be real.....and Im not trying to be rude or funny but If we gave all these ideas,Do y'all really think Trion gone listen to this thread? We gone sit here and talk and talk just to be wasting our breathe on about these ideas...Im not trying to be a "party pooper" but yeaaa. But Chow I really do like the CTF mode and Kill confirmed mode but for the KC mode, I feel like it'll be a lot bugs behind it. Example: I kill Bob, Bob drops his tag, His Tag glitches go below the map, Me(Ked) looks stupid and sits here like "what the hell" then me type "/logout". Example Bob dies,His tag drops I collect it but it doesn't count towards the total score. Yeaaa Good ideas here but just scared for the execution from Trion.

konstantinov
02-13-2018, 11:35 AM
+1 for hardcore kill confirmed and hardcore hardpoint.

Hate
02-13-2018, 11:55 AM
Call of duty game modes ,lol .

Johnny Dbag
02-13-2018, 12:00 PM
I'd play capture/carry the flag for sure. I would not expect to see anything changed this major until/if it's ever released on current gen consoles. Hell, I'd even play a sardines based pvp too.

stoodakiss
02-13-2018, 01:28 PM
capture the flag would be cool.

Decoy303
02-13-2018, 03:26 PM
I think speed boosts would have to be disabled in this mode for everyone. Also I think infector Immunizers would get spammed because of their ridiculous long range. I think this concept rocks though.

chow1116
02-13-2018, 06:13 PM
There are definitely so many variables that would have to be considered in order for something like this to be remotely feasible...but its a cool concept idea. More like a backbone to something that could potentially be really cool and different.

TrionMobi
02-13-2018, 06:59 PM
Great ideas here regarding PVP modes and suggestions. I'm a big Capture the Flag fan myself and a Kill Confirm mode would be neat also. I'm gathering up feedback and interests from players, thanks for posting.

DEATHBRINGER210
02-13-2018, 07:08 PM
they still havent fix the dead body holding points bug. how can you cap a flag if the dead body is still holding it.

Bullet Babe
02-14-2018, 03:17 AM
It just needs to be brought back to the way it was. Adding more maps would be fine too.

The number one #1 thing I would like to see is more team deathmatch options.
Right now we have Observatory and Waterfront for team deathmatch... literally everything else is capture and hold, shadow war is just cap and hold in the overworld map...

We need more team deathmatch maps or at least team deathmatch in the overworld similar to shadow war but inside of a smaller boundary. Should be an easy fix to anyone going outside the boundary same as it is in a duel, if you stay outside the boundary longer than 5 seconds then you die.

just a thought

DSW
02-14-2018, 09:28 AM
what is all those modes about? kill confirmed, hardpoint, etc..

only CTF of all ideas sounds familiar

CalamityDusk
02-14-2018, 10:04 AM
what is all those modes about? kill confirmed, hardpoint, etc..

only CTF of all ideas sounds familiar

Kill confirmed is a mode where once you kill someone they drop a tag (usually) and in order to win your team must pick up a certain number.

Hardpoint is more objective based. to make it easy its a single flag that moves. Your team must cap it and protect it vis versa if your team didnt cap it first

once capped the teams cannot respawn until the defend period is done.

STIMPACK
02-14-2018, 01:02 PM
a Last Man Standing like in counter-strike , exemple Round Start 12 vs 12 , Team with survivor at end win while dead people are on spectators mode / free roam . or a bomb and defuse , when round restart u have x amount of $ to buy ur guns & bullet & shield