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Xionsmith
04-11-2013, 10:00 AM
I am so tired of getting 2-3 greens out of tier 4 lock boxes. I have bought 23 T4 box:

Green: 49
Blue: 31
Purple: 12
Orange: 0

This is just ridiculous...

Tenbears
04-11-2013, 10:19 AM
I stopped buying T3. T4. I only buy T2 boxes... To me, T4's are a waste. All I usually got from them is greens and blues also. A couple purples.

I have yet to get an OJ from any box.

jetah
04-11-2013, 10:23 AM
first T4 box had an OJ for me. none since.

aluatrill
04-11-2013, 10:24 AM
Lockbockes Analyzed in Spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AhDKIMOCd2bkdFlSdmNocG1HSHU4VVBXeXdoWDY3Qm c&toomany=true#gid=1)

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:25 AM
Did you purchase bits to get those boxes? If so Trion made their money off you Lol...

greatdividers
04-11-2013, 10:27 AM
Did you purchase bits to get those boxes? If so Trion made their money off you Lol...

really? trion made money from a consumer buying one of their products? OMG NO WAI!

hardy83
04-11-2013, 10:29 AM
So by the look of that excel sheet and seeing the cost of items, that Tier 3 lock boxes are the best choice right now?

fishboy11
04-11-2013, 10:30 AM
the horrible drops rates are probably meant to try and get people to buy bits, but i think they will end up doing more to annoy people and take away their incentive to play

fishboy11
04-11-2013, 10:30 AM
So by the look of that excel sheet and seeing the cost of items, that Tier 3 lock boxes are the best choice right now?

no tier 2's are

Pasha
04-11-2013, 10:32 AM
You waste less money on T4 lockboxes: 3k scrip per 64 keys instead of 2k script per 24 keys.

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:33 AM
Statistically speaking Tier 2s have a better chance of dropping legendary weapons if your using "Keys" if your Using bits statistically speaking its best to buy tier 3

Koshuu
04-11-2013, 10:33 AM
Well like with all mmos it's just sheer luck with these kinds of things, I just bought my second T4 today and got an orange weapon. I've been on the opposite end as well in other games getting nothing after consistent attempts, I hope you didn't pay real money for all those lockbox.

hardy83
04-11-2013, 10:34 AM
no tier 2's are

I dunno. The increase in % drop rate for blues and epics is FAR higher than Tier 2.

Is there a stat somewhere that compares the drop rates to 8 T2 boxes vs 2 T3 boxes vs 1 T4?

DeMoted
04-11-2013, 10:35 AM
I got orange from T4 that should screw up your "buy this tier only"

Zechz
04-11-2013, 10:35 AM
Bought my first T4 box a few days ago.. and got an orange from it. Bought a few more afterwards and only purples and blues, ended up buying T3's after that.

fishboy11
04-11-2013, 10:36 AM
I dunno. The increase in % drop rate for blues and epics is FAR higher than Tier 2.

Is there a stat somewhere that compares the drop rates to 8 T2 boxes vs 2 T3 boxes vs 1 T4?

yea but you can get 3 tier 2's for the price of 1 tier 3 so the % would have to be at least 3 times as good

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:36 AM
Good question hardy, i will do some numbercrunching this afternoon when servers are back up and post you a response to this question tonight.

fishboy11
04-11-2013, 10:36 AM
I got orange from T4 that should screw up your "buy this tier only"


how do you figure?? people get oranges from every lockbox, its about %'s and which is the best value for the amount of keycodes

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:39 AM
how do you figure?? people get oranges from every lockbox, its about %'s and which is the best value for the amount of keycodes

For Key codes Tier 2 is best substituted with a Tier 3 at random intervals... the best for Bits is most Deff Tier 3 substituted with T4


I wouldnt waste 64 keys on a T4 the statistical values support using t2/t3. However.... Might I add that anyway you roll the dice your still going to get a randomly generated item. Lets just remember that some people roll the dice and get a solid reward. Some people may buy 100 t4 lock boxes and never see a single orange.... Financially Id rather roll the 10 dollar lottery tickets than the 20 dollar tickets. Its all about preference and the lack being satisfied with the end result... if your spend 64 keys and don't get a single purple or orange thats more demoralizing than not getting one from several t2 boxes because you expect that out of t2 boxes not t4

Shawnchapp
04-11-2013, 10:41 AM
the only orange i got was from a t4 i only get greens/blue from t2's so for me i'm staying with t4's Lol

fishboy11
04-11-2013, 10:41 AM
i dont find that fair that they are giving different drops rates for people who are spending money on bits

Nightside187
04-11-2013, 10:42 AM
Bought 100$ of bits yesterday and used them all on lockbox found 1 orange 3 purple rest blue and green and i did not find a single item that im gonna use.Out of all the bits i purchased since release 250$ i put atleast 200$ into box and only thing im using is a purple lmg so im pretty much done buying bits for now unless the system change.

Ashnon
04-11-2013, 10:45 AM
Bought 100$ of bits yesterday and used them all on lockbox found 1 orange 3 purple rest blue and green and i did not find a single item that im gonna use.Out of all the bits i purchased since release 250$ i put atleast 200$ into box and only thing im using is a purple lmg so im pretty much done buying bits for now unless the system change.

250$ on bits in less than 10 days of game time??!!! What do you do? Is your company hiring?

jetah
04-11-2013, 10:45 AM
I've only spent an extra 50$ on bits for inventory space. I thought about using bits for lockboxes but figured that more inventory space would be worth more than most of items i'd get from a lockbox.

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:49 AM
You do realize that I clutter my inventory intentionally before doing quests that give me "mods" so they end up in the "Claim Item" area because honestly I hate the fact that mods hog inventory space :) you can do this with arkfalls too with the end reward. Its unlimited inventory... take the items that are crap and break down to resources. I only roll with 1 free inventory slot intentionally :)

Napalm Sunrise
04-11-2013, 10:49 AM
I am so tired of getting 2-3 greens out of tier 4 lock boxes. I have bought 23 T4 box:

Green: 49
Blue: 31
Purple: 12
Orange: 0

This is just ridiculous...

Yeah but were you insane like me and spend actual "bits" on these things for a regrettable amount of money simply to realize A: Stats are comparable across the board for most baseline values including damage and magazine size as well as B: EGO level dictates WHAT guns you are likely to get. You won't see a level 25 earning a Legendary VOT Swarm Launcher or Sporeshot from a T4 Lockbox.

*Facepalm* When that clicked I felt like such an moron. A 250 dollar in the hole utter moron.

Shima
04-11-2013, 10:50 AM
You waste less money on T4 lockboxes: 3k scrip per 64 keys instead of 2k script per 24 keys.

Yea that's how I look at it. I can use scrip for other things but keys only this - so why waste the scrip.

Antherage
04-11-2013, 10:51 AM
I received 2 oranges, one purple, and a blue from a T4 box the other day.

Ashnon
04-11-2013, 10:52 AM
You do realize that I clutter my inventory intentionally before doing quests that give me "mods" so they end up in the "Claim Item" area because honestly I hate the fact that mods hog inventory space :) you can do this with arkfalls too with the end reward. Its unlimited inventory... take the items that are crap and break down to resources. I only roll with 1 free inventory slot intentionally :)

I do this from time to time too. Pick up all sorts of crap before quests so the quest rewards go into claim items. If something drops, salvage a piece of garbage, pick up the new item.

Secret Squirrel
04-11-2013, 10:54 AM
I do this from time to time too. Pick up all sorts of crap before quests so the quest rewards go into claim items. If something drops, salvage a piece of garbage, pick up the new item.

works out great! I hope trion doesn't shut this down before they fix the obvious "Inventory" issue

reciprocate
04-11-2013, 10:57 AM
Got my only orange (was a shield) out of a T2. Best I got out of a T3 was a purple obviously, and I don't recall even getting a purple out of a T4 yet, just bunch of blues and greens. RNG is weird.

Lomax21
04-11-2013, 11:06 AM
I've got 3 orange wep from T4... a few purples and mostly blues...

It's random people... T4 has higher chance of orange... Some are lucky others are not