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Andross
04-24-2013, 08:20 AM
Everyone around is going haywire for legendary weapons. I've ran across soo many epic weapons that are better than legendary weapons. Yes, legendary weapons have the potential to be better than epics, because of one more benefit. Other than that, these weapons are really good. For example, my VOT Nano Fragger

4 mod slots
Synergy: run-n-gun
[1] +5% Movement Accuracy
[2] +10% Movement Accuracy
[3] +10% Accuracy and -10% Recoil at low health
[4] +20% Accuracy and -20% Recoil at low health

-0.10 Recoil
25% of Stowed weapon clip reloaded on a kill

DMG: 242x12
Fire Rate: 1.5
Mag: 2
Reload: 2.0
Accuracy: 10.2
Bloom: 0.0

or come look at this thread: Really good weapons, i got offered alot when people messaged me via my gamertag: http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?51075-xbox.na-Selling-2-FRC-SAWs-Assault-carbine-VOT-Grind-Fragger
Notice, thats an epic weapon. That is really good. People are too quick to judge. So calm down with the hype in epic weapons. I even have all 4 synergy mods for my shotgun. Even if you have a better weapon than i posted above, thats even more proof. Thanks for taking the time to read.

alienoid
04-24-2013, 08:24 AM
I take it, you came across some jerks laughing at you because you weren't all shiny orange equipped ?

Andross
04-24-2013, 08:34 AM
I take it, you came across some jerks laughing at you because you weren't all shiny orange equipped ?

I have plenty of orange weapons. I'm just laughing at someone who spent 350k on a FRC SAW, and i had a purple one better than that.

Zeal
04-24-2013, 08:41 AM
I have plenty of orange weapons. I'm just laughing at someone who spent 350k on a FRC SAW, and i had a purple one better than that.

Lol, know what you mean.

Durva360
04-24-2013, 08:51 AM
I like this thread. It's true that most of the oranges suck. My orange AR from level 414 stomped the orange AR I got at 1722. I will post stats of the 414 later but even then the Gladiator AR you get from a main mission stomps all of the ARs I've obtained :)

UHaveN0skill
04-24-2013, 08:53 AM
Everyone around is going haywire for legendary weapons. I've ran across soo many epic weapons that are better than legendary weapons. Yes, legendary weapons have the potential to be better than epics, because of one more benefit. Other than that, these weapons are really good. For example, my VOT Nano Fragger

4 mod slots
Synergy: run-n-gun
[1] +5% Movement Accuracy
[2] +10% Movement Accuracy
[3] +10% Accuracy and -10% Recoil at low health
[4] +20% Accuracy and -20% Recoil at low health

-0.10 Recoil
25% of Stowed weapon clip reloaded on a kill

DMG: 242x12
Fire Rate: 1.5
Mag: 2
Reload: 2.0
Accuracy: 10.2
Bloom: 0.0

Notice, thats an epic weapon. That is really good. People are too quick to judge. So calm down with the hype in epic weapons. I even have all 4 synergy mods for my shotgun. Even if you have a better weapon than i posted above, thats even more proof. Thanks for taking the time to read.

nice topic name bro lol good stuff and you make a very good argument

Grit
04-24-2013, 08:57 AM
The Gladiator and the XMR-22 that you get from Nolan are just as good, if not better than any other AR that i've picked up since i've gotten those two. I still have them both in my inventory on standby for when i get some good full synergy mod kits.

Durva360
04-24-2013, 09:01 AM
The Gladiator and the XMR-22 that you get from Nolan are just as good, if not better than any other AR that I've picked up since I've gotten those two. I still have them both in my inventory on standby for when i get some good full synergy mod kits. Glad to see I am not the only one :) Both of these weapons have level 3 mods except for sight. The Gladiator thought has a sight mod on it due to how lucky I got with the weapon. Mine came standard with a 1.8x crit. Then maxing out the weapon added another 1.5x crit then level 3 barrel added like 1.25x crit. In PVP this thing is a 1-2 burst to the head and they are down weapon :)

BLG CONSIG vR
04-24-2013, 09:11 AM
Everyone around is going haywire for legendary weapons. I've ran across soo many epic weapons that are better than legendary weapons. Yes, legendary weapons have the potential to be better than epics, because of one more benefit. Other than that, these weapons are really good. For example, my VOT Nano Fragger

4 mod slots
Synergy: run-n-gun
[1] +5% Movement Accuracy
[2] +10% Movement Accuracy
[3] +10% Accuracy and -10% Recoil at low health
[4] +20% Accuracy and -20% Recoil at low health

-0.10 Recoil
25% of Stowed weapon clip reloaded on a kill

DMG: 242x12
Fire Rate: 1.5
Mag: 2
Reload: 2.0
Accuracy: 10.2
Bloom: 0.0

Notice, thats an epic weapon. That is really good. People are too quick to judge. So calm down with the hype in epic weapons. I even have all 4 synergy mods for my shotgun. Even if you have a better weapon than i posted above, thats even more proof. Thanks for taking the time to read.

This a great point. That's why most of the weapons I use are purple and I sell my oranges. One of my buddy found a Heavy assault carbine purple yesterday that every stat is boosted from the best orange we have found.

fang1192
04-24-2013, 09:12 AM
My main criteria for judging is, can you kill that enemy. If yes, cool, if no get the hell out of my co-op instance.

Jeff Kaos
04-24-2013, 09:13 AM
Hey, according to the bible David killed Goliath with a slingshot so......
Any weapon is good in the right hands, to hell with spending all my time trying to farm some weapon because it's supposedly better than another one. Most guns in this game are so similar I just use the shtako I find on the ground.

Grit
04-24-2013, 09:14 AM
My main criteria for judging is, can you kill that enemy. If yes, cool, if no get the hell out of my co-op instance.

i think we're talkin weapons here haha

Co-Op...yeah if i'm not killin enemies, i'm looking for data recorders lol

vilebyrd
04-24-2013, 09:14 AM
You are so right. I'm using to blue combat shot guns That I modded all the way I'm only like Ego 230 and I get in the top 10 of Ark falls even number 1 twice. And that's with lots of others not just a few people. But man I can't wait to find a really good orange combat shotgun.

Andross
04-24-2013, 09:14 AM
Yeah, it bothers me, for example. i have another purple saw up for auction for 50-75k, someone said thats too much for a purple weapon, im like "are you insane?"

Grit
04-24-2013, 09:20 AM
Yeah, it bothers me, for example. i have another purple saw up for auction for 50-75k, someone said thats too much for a purple weapon, im like "are you insane?"

hate to burst your bubble but anything over 10K is too much for any weapon lol..and that's because well... the nice Green Gladiator will tear heads apart better than an orange vot mazu blast rifle lol...

besides what do you need 75K scrip for?? scrip is almost totally worthless in this game

Andross
04-24-2013, 09:21 AM
hate to burst your bubble but anything over 10K is too much for any weapon lol..and that's because well... the nice Green Gladiator will tear heads apart better than an orange vot mazu blast rifle lol...

besides what do you need 75K scrip for?? scrip is almost totally worthless in this game

Scrip is used to buy weapons, what else lol

Durva360
04-24-2013, 09:22 AM
Scrip is used to buy weapons, what else lol

When they add clan bases everyone will wish they hoarded scrip.

MarleyMauler
04-24-2013, 09:24 AM
Hey, according to the bible David killed Goliath with a slingshot so......
Any weapon is good in the right hands, to hell with spending all my time trying to farm some weapon because it's supposedly better than another one. Most guns in this game are so similar I just use the shtako I find on the ground.

Agreed all the way

Grit
04-24-2013, 09:27 AM
Scrip is used to buy weapons, what else lol

Ain't no weapon in game worth 50K IMO lol!!! If it shoots straight and kills, that's all the matters lol!!

I have a sweet Purple FRC Saw i've had since EGO 230ish..can't wait to max LMGs to synergy mod that badboy..pretty sure it either has stinkfoot or syphon on it..both are great on something that throws lead down range at 400+ damage pershot

jnt
04-24-2013, 09:29 AM
When they add clan bases everyone will wish they hoarded scrip.

In 2015 I will look at the article talking about clan bases and try to remember my Defiance login and password while deciding if it's worth reinstalling.

Ciannon
04-24-2013, 09:30 AM
OP,

I would judge you by color... but when I judged a Dodge Challenger by color, I was banned for a week.

UHaveN0skill
04-24-2013, 09:37 AM
OP,

I would judge you by color... but when I judged a Dodge Challenger by color, I was banned for a week.

troll uber mega dodge troll

Andross
04-24-2013, 09:41 AM
OP,

I would judge you by color... but when I judged a Dodge Challenger by color, I was banned for a week.

Oh i see what you did there xD

Just Samples
04-24-2013, 10:01 AM
That nano fragger accuracy is a useless add on, its a sawed off shotgun for gods sake lol.

Andross
04-24-2013, 11:02 AM
That nano fragger accuracy is a useless add on, its a sawed off shotgun for gods sake lol.

It's still a good gun regardless, it'll one shot anyone, if not it'll catch em on fire.

Okta
04-24-2013, 11:04 AM
having an orange weapons is a meaning of awesomness :P

RoG Goat
04-24-2013, 11:12 AM
My Green Saw is better than most oranges... >_>

OldGuyWithStick
04-24-2013, 11:14 AM
I agree with you, especially because of your example. I have been using my epic level 130-something syphon nano fragger for a thousand levels and will continue to do so because I have found none better. Also because it is a work of art that channels the wrath of an angry god who smites my enemies and protects me in exchange for sacrifices, but I digress

fang1192
04-24-2013, 11:15 AM
i think we're talkin weapons here haha

Co-Op...yeah if i'm not killin enemies, i'm looking for data recorders lol

I was to. I dont care if you use a pistol, if it puts the enemy down in a reasonable period of time its fine.

Durva360
04-24-2013, 11:42 AM
I was to. I dont care if you use a pistol, if it puts the enemy down in a reasonable period of time its fine. It's funny when you use an infector in a co-op mission get yelled at for doing nothing yet come in 1st with 20 more kills than second place and almost a million damage higher. Happened last night during Explosions 101

filthymonkey
04-24-2013, 11:44 AM
Errrr.........you spelt colour wrong.......lol

Nice thread though.

RoG Goat
04-24-2013, 11:46 AM
Errrr.........you spelt colour wrong.......lol

Nice thread though.

I really hope you're trolling, or from a country where thats how they spell color

filthymonkey
04-24-2013, 11:49 AM
Well both, but in English it's spelt colour. I do agree with the OP though.

Andross
04-24-2013, 12:22 PM
Well both, but in English it's spelt colour. I do agree with the OP though.

There are two ways to spell color lol

Ciannon
04-24-2013, 12:23 PM
Well both, but in English it's spelt colour. I do agree with the OP though.

It is clearly Color. And in this case, it would be "Spelled", not "Spelt"

duction
04-24-2013, 12:45 PM
its colour but anyway..

you cant get the all orange equipped goal with green and purple weapons and grenades and sheilds... good luck with it though.

lol

Andross
04-24-2013, 12:58 PM
I like oranges, it makes less intelligent people buy them. But they don't need to forget about the fact that epics are good too.

Andross
04-24-2013, 02:01 PM
its colour but anyway..

you cant get the all orange equipped goal with green and purple weapons and grenades and sheilds... good luck with it though.

lol

It also can be called color.

duction
04-24-2013, 02:05 PM
i know man..i know ..grey.. gray who cares

Ciannon
04-24-2013, 02:08 PM
i know man..i know ..grey.. gray who cares

Grey and Gray are actually 2 different words. :)

duction
04-24-2013, 02:10 PM
no they aint,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey

wheres my +1 interwebs..

Andross
04-24-2013, 02:12 PM
no they aint,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey

wheres my +1 interwebs..

+1 try harding

Your Rig Is Red
04-25-2013, 05:19 PM
VOT Nano Fragger
x1.04 DMG from capped exp
Synergy: Quartermaster
x0.90 Reload
10% EGO power Recharge on full reload

This is a purple.

I highly doubt I will ever find a better Nano for Overcharge Reload setup.

Sacrimony
04-25-2013, 05:52 PM
The Gladiator and the XMR-22 that you get from Nolan are just as good, if not better than any other AR that i've picked up since i've gotten those two. I still have them both in my inventory on standby for when i get some good full synergy mod kits.

Brilliant, other people finally mentioning the XMR-22! I had a fantastic time in both the main game and PvP with that weapon. Just seemed to have something that the other AR's fully modded didn't have he he.

Andross
04-25-2013, 06:07 PM
Brilliant, other people finally mentioning the XMR-22! I had a fantastic time in both the main game and PvP with that weapon. Just seemed to have something that the other AR's fully modded didn't have he he.

Check out these weapons, i got offered tons, till people realized it was purple: http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?51075-xbox.na-Selling-2-FRC-SAWs-Assault-carbine-VOT-Grind-Fragger

Your Rig Is Red
04-26-2013, 12:42 PM
Pulled this from a vendor last night.

VOT Meteor Bolter 2207
Only scope mod unlocked
Synergy: Assassin
x1.15 Crit Mult
10% EGO power recharge on full reload
Melee: Biological
DMG: 1060
Fire Rate: 0.8
Mag: 5
Reload: 2.8
Crit Mult: 3.6x
Bloom: 4.75

fang1192
04-26-2013, 12:45 PM
Check out these weapons, i got offered tons, till people realized it was purple: http://forums.defiance.com/showthread.php?51075-xbox.na-Selling-2-FRC-SAWs-Assault-carbine-VOT-Grind-Fragger

I would give you 10K scrip if those were whites. let alone purple or orange. The only reason i want an orange is to complete EGO Master.

Andross
04-26-2013, 07:35 PM
Well with higher tier weapons, an added stat gets added once its full leveled for purple + i believe

Crusher122
05-02-2013, 02:08 PM
i like my vot nano fragger better i got a crap synergy but it does 267x12 ^^

Kairi
05-02-2013, 02:10 PM
I just want legendary's to help complete a pursuit..

B3Chandler
05-02-2013, 02:33 PM
Could care less about the rarity of said weapon if the stats for it don't hold up against another weapon.

MagellanD
05-02-2013, 02:51 PM
I'm after orange for the Ego pursuit all I need to do is equip the Orange Primary, Secondary, Grenade, & Shield. While I agree with OP that Purple spits out a good Pew Pew Pew too... Orange is needed in the game for things other than Pew Pew Pew BLOOD

Zyrom
05-04-2013, 07:46 AM
I like oranges...
And i like apples, it might be a matter of taste...

(Sorry for the necroing, but couldn't resist)

D351
05-04-2013, 07:55 AM
I'm really just in it for the equip all legendary goal...

Lupus Interuptus
05-04-2013, 07:58 AM
so you mean a legendary weapon with same synergy and perks will not have anything more than a purple one?
its like saying double big mac is same as big mac

MAXsandwich
05-04-2013, 08:21 AM
I always look for the bonus 1.15 crit on most of my guns... green AR with bonus 1.15 > Orange AR .85 reload speed.

Although a Legendary version with the desired stats/element is the goal... any color with what you are looking for trumps a legendary with out them... You can try all you want to make that Orange work and rationalize to yourself that its in some way better but its prolly only good for completing a persuit or standing around a vendor in your purple armor/top hat combo trying to impress people.

Andross
05-04-2013, 08:31 AM
People literally commented on me in game, and saw my gear, i had 2 purples, a blue, a legendary lol. It was better than theres