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PIRATEorNINJA
04-25-2013, 09:23 AM
So ive opened several level 4 lockboxes over the course of time since the game has been released. I have NEVER gotten anything worth keeping. in fact SEVERAL timesi have recieved identical copies of something i already had in my inventory which had better stats than the one in lockbox. These lockboxes are a JOKE!!!! which also makes KEYCODES A JOKE since as far as i can tell thats all they are used for is buying lockboxes full of junk. this in turn also makes converting ARKFALL SALVAGE into keycodes A JOKE!!!

even if you sell all items you get from a lockbox you dont get back the scrip you spent to get the lockbox.

I wouldnt even bother buying them if i didnt max out of keycodes. i dont know why i bother tho its just a endless cycle of wasting time and buying junk to resell at a loss

seriously if i am missing out on something please tell me cause I really like this game and it has a ton of potential but the more i play it the more pissed off i get at the level of FAIL we are quickly approaching.

also to think that they even offer these things for bits/real money is honestly appalling and very low of them.

Lamerian
04-25-2013, 09:24 AM
So ive opened several level 4 lockboxes over the course of time since the game has been released. I have NEVER gotten anything worth keeping. in fact SEVERAL timesi have recieved identical copies of something i already had in my inventory and had better stats. These lockboxes are a JOKE!!!! which also makes KEYCODES A JOKE since as far as i can tell thats all they are used for is buying lockboxes full of junk. this in turn also makes converting ARKFALL SALVAGE into keycodes A JOKE!!!

even if you sell all items you get fro ma lockbox you dont get back the scrip you spent to get the lockbox.

I wouldnt even bother buying them if i didnt max out of keycodes. i dont know why i bother tho its just a endless cycle of wasting time and buying junk to resell at a loss

seriously if i am missing out on something please tell me cause I really like this game and it has a ton of potential but the more i play it the more pissed off i get at the level of FAIL we are quickly approaching.

I always buy the top level lockbox and have gotten several useful items from them.

Yenkin
04-25-2013, 09:30 AM
I have gotten some useful upgrades, but. Yet to see an orange weapon. But most of what I get gets salvaged.

Cistzelos
04-25-2013, 09:32 AM
Welcome to the definition of random rewards. If everyone always got what they could use, then everyone would have what they wanted pretty quickly.

Cutlass Jack
04-25-2013, 09:32 AM
You get the codes while playing. Since they cap out, you might as well use em. The Scrip part is easy enough to come by. I've gotten a few good things from boxes.

But I wouldnt reccomend spending bits on them.

PIRATEorNINJA
04-25-2013, 09:36 AM
i know its supposed to be random, but i would think i would get at least one good item from 10 lockboxes. thats not a very good percentage of "reward" its more like a punishment.

Remag Div
04-25-2013, 09:41 AM
This reminds me of those PvP bags at the start of TOR. Same system as this, they had PvP Comms they used to buy "bags" which had a random chance to provide the best gear. Everyone hated it. Some people got the best gear in a week while others it took months, if at all.

Random rewards are always bad. I wouldn't mind if there was another way to acquire epic weapons like from co-op boss fights or really hard NPC's at a certain location have a small chance to drop an epic item as well as lock boxes.

squidgod2000
04-25-2013, 09:43 AM
Statistically, you're far better off buying T3 lockboxes than T4.

Archangel
04-25-2013, 09:55 AM
Friend in opening week got an Orange from each level. 2, 3, and 4. He was like Ego 200 lol so they all had no mod slots on them and little synergies.

Im waiting to max my weapons to 20 before dropping keys on lockboxes. I use my keys for mods right now and am holding onto them till i can find a gun that i have maxed @ 20 to place them into.

greatdividers
04-25-2013, 10:01 AM
So ive opened several level 4 lockboxes over the course of time since the game has been released. I have NEVER gotten anything worth keeping. in fact SEVERAL timesi have recieved identical copies of something i already had in my inventory which had better stats than the one in lockbox. These lockboxes are a JOKE!!!! which also makes KEYCODES A JOKE since as far as i can tell thats all they are used for is buying lockboxes full of junk. this in turn also makes converting ARKFALL SALVAGE into keycodes A JOKE!!!

even if you sell all items you get from a lockbox you dont get back the scrip you spent to get the lockbox.

I wouldnt even bother buying them if i didnt max out of keycodes. i dont know why i bother tho its just a endless cycle of wasting time and buying junk to resell at a loss

seriously if i am missing out on something please tell me cause I really like this game and it has a ton of potential but the more i play it the more pissed off i get at the level of FAIL we are quickly approaching.

also to think that they even offer these things for bits/real money is honestly appalling and very low of them.

do you know what RNG is?

Insanityplea
04-25-2013, 10:03 AM
This reminds me of those PvP bags at the start of TOR. Same system as this, they had PvP Comms they used to buy "bags" which had a random chance to provide the best gear. Everyone hated it. Some people got the best gear in a week while others it took months, if at all.

Random rewards are always bad. I wouldn't mind if there was another way to acquire epic weapons like from co-op boss fights or really hard NPC's at a certain location have a small chance to drop an epic item as well as lock boxes.

The only problem is, there are no hard mobs in this game :/

I would be happy if they just refined the lockboxes down a bit more...for instance....

Tier2............................................. .....Tier3........................................ .............Tier4
Secondary Box.............................Secondary Box....................................Secondary Box
Small Arms...................................Small Arms.............................................. .Small Arms
Heavy Arms.................................Heavy Arms.............................................. .Heavy Arms
Specialist Box...........................Specialist Box..............................................S pecialist Box

Secondary box = shields/grenades
Small arms = Pistols/SMGs/Shotguns (Shotguns dont really fit in with small arms, but works to keep the # of weapons in boxes rougly equal)
Heavy arms = AR/LMG/Sniper Rifles (Bolt and Semi-auto)
Specialist box = Grenade Launchers, Rocket Launchers, Infectors, BMGs

Or something like that. So at the very least you have some minor control over what type of weapons you are getting. Cause I get enough Grenade Launchers from boxes to arm a decent sized army but never any ARs or LMGs.

Orbital
04-25-2013, 10:42 AM
you just have bad luck then, I have gotten a ton of purples and 3 oranges so far from T4 lock boxes and I haven't really been grinding keys out. Sometimes I do get a green or a item I don't really want to use, but it is random and I deal with it.

PIRATEorNINJA
04-25-2013, 11:26 AM
ive never even seen an orange item yet and i am like close to 600 ego one character and around 300 on another one

Mladenov
04-25-2013, 11:35 AM
I got today my 2 round shotty (orange) from Tier 3 lockbox.
It was 3-rd item which apear from the box.
I was *woah* :)

PIRATEorNINJA
04-25-2013, 11:35 AM
you just have bad luck then, I have gotten a ton of purples and 3 oranges so far from T4 lock boxes and I haven't really been grinding keys out. Sometimes I do get a green or a item I don't really want to use, but it is random and I deal with it.

i got purples but they sucked, i had other items of lower tieir with better stats.

7h4n4705
04-25-2013, 02:40 PM
No luck man, no luck. I got 7 legendary from umm i say around 20-25 t4 boxes. 10-15 epic, **** loads of rare some green **** that i salvage instantly. Yet no legendary or epic shield or nades. Still farming key codes, hope with me ). glhf

P.S. -500k+ of ark, + key codes.

Kristensen
04-25-2013, 02:48 PM
The only problem is, there are no hard mobs in this game :/

I would be happy if they just refined the lockboxes down a bit more...for instance....

Tier2............................................. .....Tier3........................................ .............Tier4
Secondary Box.............................Secondary Box....................................Secondary Box
Small Arms...................................Small Arms.............................................. .Small Arms
Heavy Arms.................................Heavy Arms.............................................. .Heavy Arms
Specialist Box...........................Specialist Box..............................................S pecialist Box

Secondary box = shields/grenades
Small arms = Pistols/SMGs/Shotguns (Shotguns dont really fit in with small arms, but works to keep the # of weapons in boxes rougly equal)
Heavy arms = AR/LMG/Sniper Rifles (Bolt and Semi-auto)
Specialist box = Grenade Launchers, Rocket Launchers, Infectors, BMGs

Or something like that. So at the very least you have some minor control over what type of weapons you are getting. Cause I get enough Grenade Launchers from boxes to arm a decent sized army but never any ARs or LMGs.

I would support a system like this, so tired of getting Granade Launcher and Rocket Launcher in boxes, don't wanna use those weapons...

Reeco Suave
04-25-2013, 03:03 PM
I've gotten at least 4 oranges (all worthless) and a lot of purples simply by buying tons of T2 boxes. The increased chance for 24 - 64 keys are simply not worth it specially now that the drop rate has been nerfed.

You are better off however, jumping between merchants

Defy
04-25-2013, 03:06 PM
Try Tier 3 lockboxes

Arcuatio
04-25-2013, 03:31 PM
Normally I buy T3 lockboxes but....
Yesterday I figured I'd try my luck on a T4 lockbox. I received 3 blues and 1 green. None of them were better than what I already had in my inventory.

Dazz
04-25-2013, 04:43 PM
I've only ever gotten crap from them. I put down real money on them too and bought with bits. Lesson learned. $20 spent and gotten crap in return. Won't do that again.

IMHO its a pretty poor business model. Catering to the gambler element among the player base? I won't buy any more bits. I might have if I could be pretty sure I'd get something I could use.

Iceberg
04-25-2013, 04:50 PM
I think this is one of the bigger problems with the game, you can get a gun from the start that has good stats and hang on to it and it would still have better stats than some gun that is purple at ego 2k+. You could put mods in the guns, but thats also a waste of time and resources since you have to level up the gun xp and then toss it and use another one if you want to keep upping your xp for that gun type.

So now you are stuck with trashing guns after maxing them just to get the gun type maxed at level 20 before you can even think about putting mods in the gun to keep it around long enough to enjoy it. Sure guns give a random bonus when it is maxed out, but none of the damage is going into the overall xp of the gun type any more.

They need to tweak the system a little bit more in my opinion if they want players to keep playing this game.