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smurfsniper
06-13-2013, 11:36 AM
The only reason I can think of is because they are popular. But adding them killed the lore of the show, and game. This sounds like typical syfy garbage we see on the station. I am sick of having Zombies in everything sci-fi. It is sure to please the CoD fans who play zombies, so I guess they thought that would bring them over. I was really hoping for a game, and show to take Sci-fi serious again. I guess Sci-fi as most of knew it is dead, and so is this game(for me), until this horrible event is over.

Hope499
06-13-2013, 11:39 AM
Zombies make everything better, that's why.

Eating a zombie ***** mixed with herb of white water is a natural aphrodisiac, and keeps me hard for days. Why not include them?

Biznatchio
06-13-2013, 11:41 AM
Trion trying to jump on the WWZ revenue and generate some for themselves. They are giong to cross over with a Brad Pitt look a like in the next epsode release.

Throw a Brad Pit Character into Defiance and the womenz will be flocking to the game to play with it.

Omnifarious Xji
06-13-2013, 11:45 AM
Because Trion's wallet.

Bentu
06-13-2013, 11:58 AM
Zombies> bronies

treadingwater
06-13-2013, 12:05 PM
Gets content that ties into the show in a meaningful way... and still complains. Haters gonna hate.

RegularX
06-13-2013, 12:09 PM
Because we already had genetically engineered (adrenaline fueled) soldiers, mutants, sentient robots gone awry, laser blades, alien bugs, mysterious power sources, and giant robots ... and well, zombies-via-mutating-plague were just feeling left out.

Seriously, this show/game leaves nearly no scifi trope untouched. By season two, I assume there will be a holodeck.

Lethaltyrant
06-13-2013, 12:15 PM
Because every game needs a little zombie killing lol common as a gamer when has there been a time u havent wanted to killed and slaughter countless zombies, its just part of gaming nature lol

Ensu
06-13-2013, 12:17 PM
The only reason I can think of is because they are popular. But adding them killed the lore of the show, and game. This sounds like typical syfy garbage we see on the station. I am sick of having Zombies in everything sci-fi. It is sure to please the CoD fans who play zombies, so I guess they thought that would bring them over. I was really hoping for a game, and show to take Sci-fi serious again. I guess Sci-fi as most of knew it is dead, and so is this game(for me), until this horrible event is over.

Iain M. Banks is dead.

As tragic as that is, SciFi lives on.

A lot of people are calling these things zombies, but that's not quite accurate. They are quite alive. They still speak, and have some awareness of what they are, and just how much pain they're in. A virus (Grant Bowler actually refers to them as nanites in an E3 interview) has repurposed the human body to spread its infection and prevent its own destruction (Infected attacking vaccine synthesizers). Like a norovirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus), I guess. Except that to prevent their destruction, noroviruses mutate, whereas the Defiance infection plays puppetmaster.

Atticus Batman
06-13-2013, 12:29 PM
Iain M. Banks is dead.

As tragic as that is, SciFi lives on.

A lot of people are calling these things zombies, but that's not quite accurate. They are quite alive. They still speak, and have some awareness of what they are, and just how much pain they're in. A virus (Grant Bowler actually refers to them as nanites in an E3 interview) has repurposed the human body to spread its infection and prevent its own destruction (Infected attacking vaccine synthesizers). Like a norovirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus), I guess. Except that to prevent their destruction, noroviruses mutate, whereas the Defiance infection plays puppetmaster.

Wow a well thought out post that makes sense! Thank you, and no sarcasm was meant btw.

Gratty
06-13-2013, 12:36 PM
Iain M. Banks is dead.

As tragic as that is, SciFi lives on.

A lot of people are calling these things zombies, but that's not quite accurate. They are quite alive. They still speak, and have some awareness of what they are, and just how much pain they're in. A virus (Grant Bowler actually refers to them as nanites in an E3 interview) has repurposed the human body to spread its infection and prevent its own destruction (Infected attacking vaccine synthesizers). Like a norovirus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norovirus), I guess. Except that to prevent their destruction, noroviruses mutate, whereas the Defiance infection plays puppetmaster.

Well here are definitions of the word "zombie", and I think they fit the definition quite well.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton
b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

Ensu
06-13-2013, 01:04 PM
Well are definitions of the word "zombie", and I think they fit the definition quite well.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton
b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

Those are some pretty vague definitions.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/star-trek-data-androide1.jpg

Data both looks like the walking dead, and is in fact an automaton. An automaton actually meaning a self-operating machine. Or a robot. Automata can also refer to programs, rather than some big clunky tin man.


b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

Now, for the second I just had to google it, because that was a lovely turn of phrase.

Google gave me

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/odd1.jpg http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/KlingonDeathRitual1.jpg

and I was rather disappointed. I was expecting a little more of the following, to be quite honest.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/timcurry1.jpg

There goes all my trust in google.

In short, zombie, the specific noun, refers to the fleshy undead (whether human or animal), usually in a state of partial decay/decomposition.

Reverend Blood
06-13-2013, 01:10 PM
Those are some pretty vague definitions.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/star-trek-data-androide1.jpg

Data both looks like the walking dead, and is in fact an automaton. An automaton actually meaning a self-operating machine. Or a robot. Automata can also refer to programs, rather than some big clunky tin man.


b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

Now, for the second I just had to google it, because that was a lovely turn of phrase.

Google gave me

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/odd1.jpg http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/KlingonDeathRitual1.jpg

and I was rather disappointed. I was expecting a little more of the following, to be quite honest.

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv75/locusani/timcurry1.jpg

There goes all my trust in google.

In short, zombie, the specific noun, refers to the fleshy undead (whether human or animal), usually in a state of partial decay/decomposition.

http://i.imgur.com/BFqEMAE.png

Era
06-13-2013, 01:13 PM
Why did we have zombies? Cause plagues actually make total sense contextually (Native Americans got wrecked by plagues); any culture crossover, especially one of this scale, is going to be incredibly dangerous to everyone involved. And there are 3 kinds of plagues. The kind that kill everyone most of the time, the kind that leave everyone involved sick in bed most of the time, and the kind that cause zombies. Guess which kind you can have cross over with a TPS?

The alternative was parasites and I think we're all plenty sick of Infectors.

Reverend Blood
06-13-2013, 01:18 PM
Well here are definitions of the word "zombie", and I think they fit the definition quite well.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton
b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

http://i.imgur.com/axcmVmB.png

Tyger
06-13-2013, 01:22 PM
Tech they aren't zombies so uhhh... yea. Thx for playing, now run along with your failed whine thread.

Era
06-13-2013, 01:24 PM
Zombie is a nebulous term. They are very much classical rage zombies. They aren't un or living dead though.

Covington
06-13-2013, 01:45 PM
Seriously, this show/game leaves nearly no scifi trope untouched. By season two, I assume there will be a holodeck.

TARDIS - don't forget the TARDIS!

AmnesiaHaze
06-13-2013, 01:57 PM
"the walking defiant" im looking forward for next episode , no joke

c4l1d3n
06-13-2013, 01:58 PM
Zombies=$
Simple as that...

Gratty
06-13-2013, 01:59 PM
Well then refer to these quotes that I have pulled from the link at the bottom

"In quite a few modern Zombie Apocalypse series (and occasionally works about other things that also incorporate Everything's Deader with Zombies), the creator (obviously) wants to have zombies, but would rather not explicitly invoke the supernatural by having them be actual reanimated corpses."

"This generally happens because it's somewhat more scientifically plausible - at least broadly speaking - that a plague turning infected people into crazed, flesh-rotten cannibals (or slow, lumbering cannibals) could exist in reality than that the dead could rise, so it gets past skeptics' Willing Suspension of Disbelief more easily. Or, as with many works featuring fast zombies, it may be used to justify why they don't act like the classic image of moaning, slowly shambling undead"

Ideas are always evolving, and zombies are no different.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TechnicallyLivingZombie

Blondin
06-13-2013, 02:04 PM
Because zombies were planned in the scenario of the series?

Well, It seems to me that it is Time Warner/Syfi writers that do the scenario, as it is tied in with the game, you find what is in the series in the game...

Reverend Blood
06-13-2013, 02:06 PM
TARDIS - don't forget the TARDIS!

Just going off of the amount of guns that Nolan's buddy pulled from his pockets in the Pol Madis episode, I'd say that Timelord technology was alive and well in his weapon storage.

Chevota
06-13-2013, 02:08 PM
First off all its a Viral Hemorrhagic Fever, not undead beings somehow summoned back to life.

I know, i say zombies too but, they arent zombies... Thats why they are Afflicted *name*, and not Zombies. The nanites have made those humans contract the virus. Interesting that the Hulkers have been Afflicted by it too. Also, i think the Tremblers may be Bio-Men that have become Afflicted, nothing else makes sense for their size.

Rakshasa
06-13-2013, 02:13 PM
Well here are definitions of the word "zombie", and I think they fit the definition quite well.

a : a person held to resemble the so-called walking dead; especially : automaton
b : a person markedly strange in appearance or behavior

I agree that's way too vague. Heck, b) is pretty much going to include most of us here.

Era
06-13-2013, 02:16 PM
1. Most series don't call zombies zombies period. That's a trope that needs to die, btw, when the setting is post Night of the Living Dead.
2. Nanites CURE, not CAUSE the virus.
3. Technically speaking, the term zombie originated with voodoo zombies which broadly speaking vary from poisoning victim to enslaved liches to thralls depending on the exact mythos and how grounded in reality we are being, not undead beings somehow summoned back to life. The popular use was a stolen term in the first place. Which is why I said earlier that it is a nebulous term. The living dead don't have dibs, if anything does it's voodoo.

Ensu
06-13-2013, 02:38 PM
I don't disagree that they are a bit like zombies, or that the concept is influenced by zombies, but I still wouldn't call them zombies. May as well call them contagious parasitic cancer fiends (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_facial_tumour_disease) who understand that launching rockets filled with vaccine is bad for them thereby revealing cognitive reasoning, since it'd be closer to the actual depiction of the creature ingame. Rather than losing flesh (to feeding or rot) the Afflicted grow new flesh and develop what I presume are keratin-based exoskeletons (if they're not some alien compound). Now, that's a fair way from zombie (even non-traditional) by most standards.

In behaviour, there is only a glancing association between zombie and Afflicted. Zombies and Afflicted both run at you and say "grarr" or "hunnh" or some other term of endearment. However, there the similarity ends. The Afflicted, so far as I have seen, have no interest in feeding on the flesh. This being the signature of almost all modern "zombie" stories.

The tvtropes page also points out that such "hate plagues" as The Reavers from Firefly could be adopted under the term zombie, and since they are really just psychopaths who eat flesh and fly spaceships, we may as well call all cannibals zombies. And all spacemen too.

GeordieReaper
06-13-2013, 02:43 PM
First zombie movie was White Zombie in 1932 starring Bela Lugosi and directed by Victor Halperin so I blame him for all of this, a huge zombie overload. I also think zombies shouldn't have been hijacked from the horror genre. I appreciate that a sci-fi explanation is more plausible but I think it destroys the whole idea.

Supernatural origins for monsters I think are more appealing, so why couldn't Defiance have a little of that in the mix. Just please don't introduce any type of sci fi vampire I'm begging you, the vampire has already suffered enough thanks to crap like the Twilight movies.

Wtflag
06-13-2013, 03:36 PM
What zombies? I don't see any.

Oh you are talking about the crazy diseased humans.

Well they are on the way out in a few day's time.

Biznatchio
06-13-2013, 03:47 PM
First zombie movie was White Zombie in 1932 starring Bela Lugosi and directed by Victor Halperin so I blame him for all of this, a huge zombie overload. I also think zombies shouldn't have been hijacked from the horror genre. I appreciate that a sci-fi explanation is more plausible but I think it destroys the whole idea.

Supernatural origins for monsters I think are more appealing, so why couldn't Defiance have a little of that in the mix. Just please don't introduce any type of sci fi vampire I'm begging you, the vampire has already suffered enough thanks to crap like the Twilight movies.

There will be a True Blood tie in next just watch- no stone unturned I am sure. Come to think of it southern trailer trash vampire might just lift the show and game sophistication a bit.

Kapow420
06-13-2013, 04:06 PM
Why did we need zombies?

Because they ar cooler than Vampires and Wolves :-P

Ensu
06-13-2013, 04:29 PM
Why did we need zombies?

Because they ar cooler than Vampires and Wolves :-P

Next up, Sabre-Wolves.

http://images.webgiftr.com/v0/1849438361/detail_e3737f0a087f446abe0ee1000faad108.png