not good enough trion

Enough with the small updates,give us some dlc already! I have 30 people on my friends list with this game and no-one has played it in over a month due to lack of real content.

Awwwww, all 22 of my defiance friends were on today fighting the volge. Maybe its time to get new friends that have some staying power?

30 minutes of fun wont bring people back,me included.

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Originally Posted by loops73

30 minutes of fun wont bring people back,me included.

Yet it will bring you back to the forums to ***** about it.

I assume you haven't realized that there are new outfits in the store...

Now that's what this game needs. MORE OUTFITS to wear while... while we...

What is there to do in this game again?

Oh yea, more outfits to wear while buying more outfits :D

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Originally Posted by Shada Mori

Yet it will bring you back to the forums to ***** about it.

I paid for the game,and have every right to post my displeasure with trion.I even got the season pass(huge mistake),so f*** off!

I dunno. Having a good time with most of my PSN friends on Defiance today... plenty of deaths and kills to go around :)

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Originally Posted by loops73

I paid for the game,and have every right to post my displeasure with trion.I even got the season pass(huge mistake),so f*** off!

You won't get any refunds though, or at least for the season pass that is. If you don't enjoy the game nor play then well.. really, you are only wasting your own time. Patience is a virtue it seems that quite a lot need to master in regards to the season pass and this game in general. Hold out there for a few more weeks and you'll get your DLC by the end of July, if not - be patient. It is going to come, keep in mind that there's processes, certifications, testing and all whole other plethora of issues and hurdles to jump over in order to run the game for all three platforms.

Also please take into consideration that the game more or less revolves around the show. So what happens in the game needs to be relevant in some shape or form to the show. Season one has already been filmed therefore the story cannot necessarily be altered due to it being set in stone. Season two, however, well.. I don't know much about whether or not if it's been filmed yet. If it hasn't then there's a lot of potential to develop more of a story with that.

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Originally Posted by Dave Blackwell

You won't get any refunds though, or at least for the season pass that is.

This is simply untrue.

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Originally Posted by Kleptobrainiac

This is simply untrue.

Really? Enjoy your read.

So many people don't bother reading these things and then are confused as to why they don't get refunds.. There should be a version of TOU's and all agreements for those that have a short attention span.

Taken directly from Trion's TOS in regards to Defiance:

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Originally Posted by TOS

D. Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods

Purchases of Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods will be available for use upon completion your purchase and are therefore non-refundable, unless otherwise required by law.

As Trion deems necessary, in its sole and absolute discretion, Trion may limit the total amount of Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods that may be purchased at any one time, and/or limit the aggregate amount of Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods that may be held in your Account.

You are solely responsible for verifying that the proper amount of Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods has been added to or deducted from your Account during any given transaction. You are responsible for notifying Trion immediately if you believe that a mistake has been made with respect to your Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods. Trion, in its sole discretion, may require additional information and/or documentation to verify your claim, and once Trion has the information that Trion deems necessary to verify your claim, Trion may take action to freeze your Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods and, if frozen, may unfreeze such Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods once Trion has returned control of your Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods to you. Regardless of any actions Trion may take on your behalf, you acknowledge and agree that Trion has sole and absolute discretion in determining whether or not your claim is valid and, if so, the appropriate remedy.

Trion reserves the right to reduce, liquidate, deactivate, suspend or terminate your Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods if Trion determines in its sole discretion, after investigation, that you have misused such Virtual Currency and/or Virtual Goods to conduct any fraudulent or illegal activity.

If you leave a balance of Virtual Currency unused for a period of time set forth by your state, country, or other governing body in its unclaimed property laws, or if your account is closed, whether voluntarily or involuntarily, we may process your Virtual Currency balance in accordance with our legal obligations, including by submitting funds associated with your Virtual Currency balance to the appropriate governing body where required by law.

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE VIRTUAL CURRENCY AND/OR VIRTUAL GOODS YOU ACQUIRE HAVE NO MONETARY VALUE AND CANNOT BE REDEEMED FOR MONEY, GOODS, OR OTHER ITEMS OF MONETARY VALUE.

E. Refund Policy

ALL SUBSCRIPTION FEES (INCLUDING ANY GAME CARD REDEEMED FOR SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES) AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH VIRTUAL ITEMS, IF ANY, ARE PAYABLE IN ADVANCE AND ARE NOT REFUNDABLE IN WHOLE OR IN PART [AS ALL SUBSCRIPTION SERVICES, VIRTUAL CURRENCY AND VIRTUAL GOODS ARE AVAILABLE FOR USE UPON PURCHASE]. YOU AGREE THAT TRION IS NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A REFUND FOR ANY REASON, AND THAT YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE MONEY BACK FOR PRE-PAID TIME AND/OR VIRTUAL ITEMS WHEN AN ACCOUNT IS CLOSED, WHETHER VOLUNTARILY OR INVOLUNTARILY.

Additionally, as products or services (such as Game(s) or Virtual Items) that are downloadable are deemed used promptly upon completion of your purchase, no refunds will be made for such purchases. Unless otherwise required by law or permitted by this Agreement, downloaded products, account keys purchased to activate or unlock downloaded software (including any Game(s) and/or Game Client(s)), and Virtual Items are not refundable or redeemable for any sum of money or monetary value from Trion at any time.

Now for the nail in the coffin;

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Originally Posted by TOS

Trion may assign this Agreement, in whole or in part, to any person or entity at any time with or without your consent. You hereby agree to the assignment and novation of this Agreement to a third party, in whole or in part, on reasonable terms (as provided by Trion). You may not assign or transfer this Agreement or your rights hereunder, and any attempt to the contrary is void.

If any provision of this Agreement shall be unlawful, void, or for any reason unenforceable, then that provision shall be deemed severable from this Agreement and shall not affect the validity and enforceability of any remaining provisions. No waiver by either party of any breach or default hereunder shall be deemed to be a waiver of any preceding or subsequent breach or default.

Subject to section 21A, this Terms of Use Agreement is the complete and exclusive statement of the agreement between you and Trion concerning the Service, and this Agreement supersedes any prior or contemporaneous agreement, either oral or written, and any other communications with regard thereto between you and Trion; provided, however that this Agreement is in addition to, and does not replace or supplant, any applicable Game EULA or Trion’s Privacy Policy.

In the event of a conflict or inconsistency between the terms and conditions of this Agreement and a Game EULA, the terms and conditions of the Game EULA shall supersede any such terms and conditions of this Agreement. This Agreement may only be modified as set forth herein. The section headings used herein are for reference only and shall not be read to have any legal effect.

Nothing express or implied in this Agreement is intended to confer, nor shall anything herein confer, upon any person other than the Parties and the respective permitted successors or assigns of the Parties, any rights, remedies, obligations or liabilities whatsoever, including pursuant to the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999.

I HEREBY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I HAVE READ AND UNDERSTAND THE FOREGOING TERMS OF USE AGREEMENT AND AGREE THAT MY USE OF THE SITE, ACCOUNT, GAME (INCLUDING GAME-RELATED VIRTUAL ITEMS, IF ANY), GAME CLIENT AND/OR THE SERVICE IS AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF MY AGREEMENT TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THIS TERMS OF USE AGREEMENT.