The outcry justifies the nerf

The only hard fact we know is the 1.5sec nano proc cool down(which I feel is exsesive).

At the moment we don't know how much the SAW will come down, or how far the rocket launchers will be bumped up. I bet if rocket launchers are actually fun again people won't even miss their SAW as much.

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Originally Posted by Sgt Baltimore

Lol must be playing with noobs, what system u on?

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Xbox NA using an SMG. I've been playing for about 5 days. Noobies for the win? ^_^

Edit - Yes, as a new player, I am basically just damage whoring I guess is the words that are thrown around here, I was probably not the most useful player, but yeah. o_o.

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Originally Posted by Remag Div

If you look down deep and hard, this is nothing but true, and everyone knows it.

Yes, you could always buff the other LMG's, but all this does is effectively make 4 super weapons instead of 1 and now 90% of people in the game are only using LMG's. lol

The fact people are whining so much and even going so far as to say they are quitting or "this is the last straw" shows how bad of a crux it was. In deep shtako? Whip out the SAW and you're good. It was just way too effective for PvE in its current state.

Even with the damage nerf I guarantee you it will still be a great and viable weapon to use.

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You LMG nerf supporters keep saying this, but what the hell do you think people are going to do when the LMG gets nerfed? No one is going to use a SAW if its damage is less then 300, it's going to be 80-90% of the people using Wolfhounds and AR's, so the logic of saying "Well if they buff the other LMG's everyone will just be using LMG's" is flawed, if they nerf the SAW, who the hell would be stupid enough to start using the other LMG's?? If they buff the other LMGs now we have options as to which to use. I'd prefer my rocker over SAW any day, but the fact it shoots 5 bullets at a time, low damage, high recoil, ****ty bloom, makes it worthless compared to ANY AR. You can't "bring weapons down to par" with other weapons in the same class that are already flawed to begin with, that logic has KILLED many games, WOW tried doing it, they learned there lesson, now they just add more power. Players want MORE POWER, not be dumbed down because they are doing well with something.

People have "Fun" with LMG SAW's, they have FUN in PVE cause it helps them kill things. They are FUN in PVP because it's not a pick up and be god weapon like an infector or cloak/shotty combo.

If you're a PVE'er and you're justifying the nerf because "the gun is too strong at killing monsters" you're an idiot. You're probably the same players who bug abused missions and challenges at start, the same players that bought 10000 shields from the rep vendors for free, the same players that tag arkfalls and run, the same players that join a coop complete a daily and leave, the same players that get pissed when someone "does more damage then them at an arkfall even though it's coop and its a team thing and has ZERO impact on your own personal gameplay." Players like you all make me want to f*cking vomit, and you're all the reason why all these mmo's f*cking blow, and when something HALF decent comes along, here you roaches come again to f*ck things up. Giddy up on your "I want to be against everyone so I can be different." bandwagon, and I hope you're entire layout get's nerfed into the f*cking ground. That way all of us can just run around with g*y *** charge blades swiping at each other like some gunz the duels rip off bullsh*t.

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Originally Posted by Sdric

Wanna be top at an Arkfall, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Scrappers, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Hellbugs use a BMG and a Ground-Pounder.

Wanna kill Volge use a Shotgun or SMG.

Wanna kill Raider use a SAW.

I can't see any problem other than you overrating the SAW.

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Also....this.

None of the guns are overpowered they're all underpowered =(

I'm in favor of the nerf as it will open up other weapons to be used in PvP.

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Originally Posted by Sdric

Wanna be top at an Arkfall, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Scrappers, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Hellbugs use a BMG and a Ground-Pounder.

Wanna kill Volge use a Shotgun or SMG.

Wanna kill Raider use a SAW.

I can't see any problem other than you overrating the SAW.

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Replace killing raiders with a heavy assault carbine. Didnt read everything OP said, to much 'saw' for me. Its a nerf, they arent taking the weapon out of the game, less DMG on it.. thats it. Its still going to be FRC Saw, high mag and dps.

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Originally Posted by Remag Div

If you look down deep and hard, this is nothing but true, and everyone knows it.

Yes, you could always buff the other LMG's, but all this does is effectively make 4 super weapons instead of 1 and now 90% of people in the game are only using LMG's. lol

The fact people are whining so much and even going so far as to say they are quitting or "this is the last straw" shows how bad of a crux it was. In deep shtako? Whip out the SAW and you're good. It was just way too effective for PvE in its current state.

Even with the damage nerf I guarantee you it will still be a great and viable weapon to use.

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Getting LMG to lvl 20 was really just a tad too simple using dual SAW+Preparedness perk. It'll still be a great weapon if it's at 300-ish dmg. And, as mentioned by so many else, yes there are many weapons that does need improvement, but that's not really all that relevant.

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Originally Posted by Sdric

Wanna be top at an Arkfall, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Scrappers, use a Wolfhound.

Wanna kill Hellbugs use a BMG and a Ground-Pounder.

Wanna kill Volge use a Shotgun or SMG.

Wanna kill Raider use a SAW.

I can't see any problem other than you overrating the SAW.

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Then way am I always top of the arkfalls and scrappers and co-ops with my SAW?

I'm mad because I was preparing a good SAW meme.. throwing that in the trash now. :(