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  • 07-12-2013, 07:48 PM
    Xoralis
    Don't complain about invisibility bug, UNDERSTAND it and send a whisper
    So since i apparently was a "hacker" in WF the other night cause i had the invisibility bug, i would like to say to ALL players who are quick to judge and don't actually know how the games little ins and outs work..

    Send a WHISPER! Most players don't know they have the bug BUT some work it out since you stand in between 4 ppl and no one shoots you.

    Sending a whisper will make people kill themselves and then the bug is gone. I had to jump in the water in WF and swim out to die but I like many players will rectify the issue, just need someone to mention it.

    That is all...
  • 07-14-2013, 06:43 PM
    Heinzlee
    It was pretty funny after you did that too.

    Xoralis - "Heinz, can you see me?"

    Heinz - "Yep"

    Xoralis - "Good"

    BAM BAM BAM!!!

    Heinz - "You suck Xoralis" Well something to that effect.
  • 07-14-2013, 08:15 PM
    ironcladtrash
    Does anyone know if when the invisibility bug happens, some players can see you and others can't? Someone said the other day an opponent player was bugged in FY but I could see them.
  • 07-14-2013, 10:21 PM
    birdiez
    theres an easy fix to that
    someone sent me a msg about this bug. toss a grenade at my feet.
    I dead. respawn with bug condition removed.
    it all comes down to player moral.
    proud to say i dont need no stinking bug to kill ppl :cool:
  • 07-15-2013, 06:24 AM
    Tyger
    Uhhh, yea. And how many times have I sent a whisper to the offending party just to be told "lolz, u Just mad Bro." It's not like they leave or anything. The system needs a vote kick implemented for when these players are encountered. Plain & Simple. Were you cheating outright, no, but it doesn't change the fact that you are continuing to remain in the game and offering an unfair advantage for your team. Vote Kicks solve this.
  • 07-15-2013, 06:35 AM
    jarodsin
    yes if you kill 20 players while you watie for the whisper to fix a bug you have to know almost at ounce you have with your cloak come on? thier should be no whisper needed drop a grenade and kill yourself.
  • 07-15-2013, 05:32 PM
    NyxJix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Xoralis View Post
    So since i apparently was a "hacker" in WF the other night cause i had the invisibility bug, i would like to say to ALL players who are quick to judge and don't actually know how the games little ins and outs work..

    Send a WHISPER! Most players don't know they have the bug BUT some work it out since you stand in between 4 ppl and no one shoots you.

    Sending a whisper will make people kill themselves and then the bug is gone. I had to jump in the water in WF and swim out to die but I like many players will rectify the issue, just need someone to mention it.

    That is all...

    Easiest thing to do is take a screenshot and post it on the forums. Not only does this force said exploiter to come clean but it makes sure that everyone else knows that this person had the glitch happen to them which means they are an exploiter / glitcher for sure.
  • 07-15-2013, 08:58 PM
    Heinzlee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    Easiest thing to do is take a screenshot and post it on the forums. Not only does this force said exploiter to come clean but it makes sure that everyone else knows that this person had the glitch happen to them which means they are an exploiter / glitcher for sure.

    Exploiter / Glitcher implies that the person in question either did so on purpose or even if it was accidental, didn't take steps to remove the exploit / glitch.

    What Xoralis experienced was an accident. And when he was alerted to the fact he was invisible, he promptly took action to remove it. I wouldn't call that action being an exploiter or a glitcher.
  • 07-15-2013, 09:00 PM
    NyxJix
    http://corelegion.com/forum/viewtopi...start=10#p5171
  • 07-16-2013, 06:23 AM
    xpld
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    http://corelegion.com/forum/viewtopi...start=10#p5171

    ok seriously are you stalking us? its becoming pretty creepy and obsessive at this point.
  • 07-16-2013, 06:46 AM
    Xoralis
    Thanks Heinz, glad someone READ my post.....
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Heinzlee View Post
    Exploiter / Glitcher implies that the person in question either did so on purpose or even if it was accidental, didn't take steps to remove the exploit / glitch.

    What Xoralis experienced was an accident. And when he was alerted to the fact he was invisible, he promptly took action to remove it. I wouldn't call that action being an exploiter or a glitcher.

    cause seriously.......um?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    Easiest thing to do is take a screenshot and post it on the forums. Not only does this force said exploiter to come clean but it makes sure that everyone else knows that this person had the glitch happen to them which means they are an exploiter / glitcher for sure.

    I like the photo-shopped signature, seems LEGIT. Where can i get one, unless the captures comes after assists now...

    EDIT - was wondering how your clan puts up with your attitude within the Defiance community since you are representing them.....you must be GM....
  • 07-16-2013, 09:25 AM
    SecretFungus420
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tyger View Post
    Uhhh, yea. And how many times have I sent a whisper to the offending party just to be told "lolz, u Just mad Bro." It's not like they leave or anything. The system needs a vote kick implemented for when these players are encountered. Plain & Simple. Were you cheating outright, no, but it doesn't change the fact that you are continuing to remain in the game and offering an unfair advantage for your team. Vote Kicks solve this.

    I don't think its that deep. I mean come on, the game doesn't keep leaderboards, doesn't record stats, doesn't really do anything with pvp. I just switch to blur and run when people get bugged haha
  • 07-16-2013, 11:14 AM
    Kevin Storms
    Xoralis, the issue you told me about in your Teamspeak post has been rectified on our end. Especially involving the person you pointed out.

    Contact me in Teamspeak when you see this. And thank you for bringing this to my attention.
  • 07-16-2013, 02:41 PM
    NyxJix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Xoralis View Post
    I like the photo-shopped signature, seems LEGIT. Where can i get one, unless the captures comes after assists now...
    .

    Feel free to click on the image to see it in full size.

    Edit -
    As of TODAY (2:00 pm 16 July 2013) Tempest has been banned from the site as a whole by IP Address. That's not to say he will not try some of the many tricks to make a new account with a new IP, but as it is right now he can no longer see our page.

    Didn't even have to change my IP...
  • 07-16-2013, 03:07 PM
    IAMVILELENT
    If they are 100% invisible even while shooting, you can still do damage, you just don't see it, normally just spray a bit, then toss a big hit Grenade and it should kill them if they have low enough HP.
  • 07-16-2013, 03:18 PM
    Tyger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SecretFungus420 View Post
    I don't think its that deep. I mean come on, the game doesn't keep leaderboards, doesn't record stats, doesn't really do anything with pvp. I just switch to blur and run when people get bugged haha

    Yea, I know your right but it's the principle of it man!!! the Principle!!!! v.v'
  • 07-16-2013, 03:36 PM
    IAMVILELENT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SecretFungus420 View Post
    I don't think its that deep. I mean come on, the game doesn't keep leaderboards, doesn't record stats, doesn't really do anything with pvp. I just switch to blur and run when people get bugged haha

    The game is recording and keeping track of all that. Check your EGO profile on the main page website. Some of it is coming soon, but the data is being recorded.
  • 07-16-2013, 03:54 PM
    Notturno
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by IAMVILELENT View Post
    If they are 100% invisible even while shooting, you can still do damage, you just don't see it, normally just spray a bit, then toss a big hit Grenade and it should kill them if they have low enough HP.

    I was under the impression they were immune to damage while experiencing that issue. Good to know I can possibly kill them with some well placed shots. Any idea if killing them ends the invisibility bug, or do they just respawn with it still active?
  • 07-16-2013, 04:19 PM
    IAMVILELENT
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Notturno View Post
    I was under the impression they were immune to damage while experiencing that issue. Good to know I can possibly kill them with some well placed shots. Any idea if killing them ends the invisibility bug, or do they just respawn with it still active?

    I think it fixes it, because the body actually shows up after you kill them, plus normally I don't tend to have any issues with that player after that, and they don't have ridiculous high scores, as someone permanently 100% should be getting.
  • 07-16-2013, 05:05 PM
    Heinzlee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by IAMVILELENT View Post
    If they are 100% invisible even while shooting, you can still do damage, you just don't see it, normally just spray a bit, then toss a big hit Grenade and it should kill them if they have low enough HP.

    Sometime way back, I remember someone shooting at me (poorly) with invis glitch with some kind of toxic nano AR I think.
    I just shot the source of the green acid beams shooting me with my syphon tachmag.

    Once they realised that despite being invisible, I could out DPS him/her if they kept firing at me, they went to find easier prey.
  • 07-16-2013, 05:18 PM
    Heinzlee
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    Feel free to click on the image to see it in full size.

    Edit -
    As of TODAY (2:00 pm 16 July 2013) Tempest has been banned from the site as a whole by IP Address. That's not to say he will not try some of the many tricks to make a new account with a new IP, but as it is right now he can no longer see our page.

    Didn't even have to change my IP...

    So... like, what are you doing in our forums anyways?
  • 07-16-2013, 05:39 PM
    Jice Corvus
    Holy ****, I never saw that vine till now.

    How has tempest not been banned?
  • 07-16-2013, 05:46 PM
    ironcladtrash
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jice Corvus View Post
    Holy ****, I never saw that vine till now.

    How has tempest not been banned?

    I am not sure anyone can really respond to this question with out violating numerous Code of Conduct policies.
  • 07-16-2013, 06:51 PM
    NyxJix
    Banned from what? No need to be jelly of my scores.
  • 07-16-2013, 07:13 PM
    Jice Corvus
    From the game, for cheating, if you really can't put two and two together lol.
  • 07-16-2013, 07:26 PM
    NyxJix
    And how exactly am I cheating?
  • 07-17-2013, 05:20 AM
    Maitreakow
    Every FY last night there was at least 1 player on the other team with this "glitch". Seems to me that some players know how to induce it. Kinda sad when I am the only player on my team with a positive K/D and more than one capture...
  • 07-17-2013, 08:48 AM
    dreamon666
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    And how exactly am I cheating?

    Iam cheating too, check my signature, Trollololol...
    Nah, iam kidding, that's just skills :D


    Back ontopic:
    here's a nice movie quote that i find fitting for this thread's title:

    http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/st...nap-105257.png
    To fight the bug,
    we must understand the bug!

    We cannot affort another Klendathu!
  • 07-17-2013, 09:01 AM
    dreamon666
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tyger View Post
    Uhhh, yea. And how many times have I sent a whisper to the offending party just to be told "lolz, u Just mad Bro." It's not like they leave or anything. The system needs a vote kick implemented for when these players are encountered. Plain & Simple. Were you cheating outright, no, but it doesn't change the fact that you are continuing to remain in the game and offering an unfair advantage for your team. Vote Kicks solve this.

    Great, so you want to implement a vote-kick function before all bugs and glitches are fixed? Do you know what that means? That potentially half of all the players can get kicked from PVP matches, because that's how many exploit bugs or glitches or are skilled enought to be considered cheating. Not to mention how many people would use the vote-kick function to kick Infector noobs from a match...
    The problem lies with Trion, because they don't ban for glitch exploiting, they hardly even ban people for actual cheats... and if they do ban them it always takes over 2 weeks or a month long before they actually ban him.
  • 07-17-2013, 05:59 PM
    Jice Corvus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    And how exactly am I cheating?

    http://www.twitch.tv/intense_tv/b/409218255

    Shield exploit in that video for instant regen, and admitting to exploting some other bug in some other thread and forum.
  • 07-17-2013, 06:23 PM
    NyxJix
    That must mean that Xoralis is also a cheater as he had the invisibility bug happen to him?

    So by your statement, everyone who has had the shield regen bug or invisibility bug is a cheater?
  • 07-17-2013, 06:24 PM
    Jice Corvus
    I never said anything about the invisibility bug.
  • 07-17-2013, 08:07 PM
    NyxJix
    So I'm a cheater because my shield bugged for that one round? I guess anyone who had it happen to them by accident is also a cheater. Trion should ban all of those people who had it happen as they are clearly cheating.
  • 07-18-2013, 07:09 AM
    dreamon666
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    So I'm a cheater because my shield bugged for that one round? I guess anyone who had it happen to them by accident is also a cheater. Trion should ban all of those people who had it happen as they are clearly cheating.

    I dunno if you're cheater or not, but you're a really bad photoshopper, that's for sure. I can actually see the cut-offs where you cut out the parts and pastes them over eachother, you can see the color changes where you've cut it, if you look close enough. Maybe try better next time, but i'll doubt people will believe you that it's legit then.
  • 07-18-2013, 11:59 AM
    Notturno
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreamon666 View Post
    I dunno if you're cheater or not, but you're a really bad photoshopper, that's for sure. I can actually see the cut-offs where you cut out the parts and pastes them over eachother, you can see the color changes where you've cut it, if you look close enough. Maybe try better next time, but i'll doubt people will believe you that it's legit then.

    The UI has transparency, and if you look in the background it's laid over an environment piece with a hole in it, hence the color discrepancy. It's legitimate, I was in the same match.
  • 07-18-2013, 12:17 PM
    Jice Corvus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NyxJix View Post
    So I'm a cheater because my shield bugged for that one round? I guess anyone who had it happen to them by accident is also a cheater. Trion should ban all of those people who had it happen as they are clearly cheating.

    Yeah it bugged out, like the time your melee glitch "bugged out"... except you admitted to using it on purpose in IMs and someone screenshotted it.

    Sorry man, don't trust anything you do. Once a glitch abuser always a glitch abuser in my books.
  • 07-18-2013, 12:34 PM
    dreamon666
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Notturno View Post
    The UI has transparency, and if you look in the background it's laid over an environment piece with a hole in it, hence the color discrepancy. It's legitimate, I was in the same match.

    Lol oke, i'd like to have some of the space-cake he's eating then... because even i, Shakk nor you can get passed 60 kills and 8.000 score in a round of Freight Yard. The second score in my signature was the best FY score i ever got, JotheShow's best score was 49/4 on FY, Shakk's was 56/4 and all of us get called a hacker very often, so what do you call him then?
  • 07-18-2013, 02:12 PM
    Joeymtl
    We call him a good player in a match full of new recruits, also, you can kill more people faster with a mouse. We don't usually see those scores from him or anyone else either. It's the reason he has it in his sig.
  • 07-18-2013, 02:17 PM
    Notturno
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dreamon666 View Post
    Lol oke, i'd like to have some of the space-cake he's eating then... because even i, Shakk nor you can get passed 60 kills and 8.000 score in a round of Freight Yard. The second score in my signature was the best FY score i ever got, JotheShow's best score was 49/4 on FY, Shakk's was 56/4 and all of us get called a hacker very often, so what do you call him then?

    It was the first day of the Steam Summer Sale, with a ton of newbies in the match. It was easy to farm kills in that match.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Joeymtl View Post
    We call him a good player in a match full of new recruits, also, you can kill more people faster with a mouse. We don't usually see those scores from him or anyone else either. It's the reason he has it in his sig.

    Essentially what he said.
  • 07-18-2013, 02:46 PM
    NyxJix
    I average between 40 and 60 kills per match depending on how long it goes and also depending on the opposition.

    That match did have a lot of users with respark shields fresh from PvE so it was easy pickings and Notturno was the only challenger I faced that round.

    It's nice to see the pvp matches poping up more frequently again as there for a while it was taking 20-40 minutes to get a single FY to pop.

    As far as the shield issue - I had it happen 1 time before I knew it was even an issue and someone happened to record it and now I get labeled as an exploiter... Same with the melee glitch - Use it one round after I read the patch notes for the following day (melee blur build) and I come clean when X64 messages me about it and once again someone posts it - Call it bad luck or everyone is out to get me. Either way, outside of the one time I did the melee syphon glitch a single round I have not done anything on purpose as I myself don't like exploiters.

    The latest thing people are using is the fast ladder climb glitch on FY. Nothing like getting to the top of A when someone is chasing you...
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