defiance could have been so much more

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Originally Posted by ChaosOneX

lol

I just can't bring myself to accept that the company that made Rift was incapable of seeing these problems. I mean, bugs are one thing, but ****ty game development is another.

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Thats how i feel. I call the Defiance dev team school coders cause it seems like they have no one with experience in mmos even though they CLAIM there are Rift personnel on defiances team.

I've yet to see ANY proof of that at all.

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Originally Posted by HiMyNameIsBill

it could have, couldnt it?

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There is no game I have played recently that the same could not be said of. And in part we hold our fair share of responsibility for the state of gaming. Games get released too early. Why? Because of the same reasons people are going all ape crazy about the DLC and because of competition. We're idiots and big name game companies can release dog crap and we still buy it by the millions. Trion isn't one of the huge companies that set the pace for what happens. Companies that can sell millions of copies of a game on release day are truly to blame for all of this and we just love them.

In fact, people on this forum that are unhappy with Defiance cannot wait for those big companies to release a future game that they just know will be the best ever, even when the companies involved have a track record of delivering crap.

Its a shame because i really would love to see this game go on to much better things. But at this rate with most of the people i see complaining about it the life span of this game probably wont last very long. Oh well i hope im wrong.

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Originally Posted by Vega

Yeah I'd have to say yes to the question. Was a bit bummed around release time of the game. Was not what I expected it to be but in the long run I'm glad it did not deliver what I wanted.

From it came an unexpected opportunity. It gave me something back that I thought I lost, my imagination. Something that rarely gets used anymore since most of what we imagined is created through CG. So who needs to? I feel like a kid again having fun in a playground, making up my own adventures as I go along. I made an imaginary friend based off of an NPC in game. I did a youtube video for that imaginary friend which I never have done a youtube video before. My creativity has increased. I'm thinking about so many ways I can make the Defiance Universe more entertaining.

There is a real K-Tam radio station that was created where fans can listen to other fans use their imagination in order to create a more interesting game world.

Its a uncompleted landscape but it is up to oneself and the community to finish the rest.

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You put it into words so well. I feel so sorry for anyone that has to be spoonfed everything in order to have fun. The real story in any game is best when it's your story. I've played a couple other games that understood that with players that totally understood it. It's so sad that many in this game don't.

Yesterday, I ran from arkfall to arkfall and saw streams of cars doing the same thing. It was what I'd imagined it would be all along-like in the trailer. Every ark hunter racing to get the goods. And in one moment I put myself there. I was on Earth but an Earth that had been changed. And it was a race to get what was available.

The landscape is fantastic to me. And I think it's great that there's such a contrast between the bay area and San Francisco. I see the fast travel spots as little safe havens within a big sort of wilderness.

I play the game and imagine I am my character. I looked around last night and there were all these big burly guys and I'm this female ark hunter who can sometimes do better than them.

One time I was walking around and a car was following me-it was a friend of mine. For about half an hour he played land shark in his car as I went and tried to hide behind things while he was stalking me. It was a lot of fun. Silly but fun. It doesn't all have to be about some story someone made up to tell you. Make your own fun.

Great post, Vega.

Game shoulda been PC only.

It would have been much much better

I don't really see any glaring problems with the current product except for some of the missions. Its can be complex but its not deep. Its a 3rd person shooter with ties to RPG elements. Its meant to grab you with the action and the adventure which it does well on the surface of the game play. Does it need MORE? I don't know yet. I assume we will see more systems and features as we move on. I just want a good PvE shooter and so far its good.

I don't want another MMO that I have to log into every day and spend hours playing "epic calculator". The arkfall events are a ton of fun. The missions suffer from "same things, different day" mistake but I can accept that the game has just come out. The story line is good...considering its based on the show. The mass appeal is great. I love seeing 30 people coming together without the need to look for a group or spend hours in chat. This isn't a lobby game.

If you want a deeper, more complicated game that appeals to a different audience then by all means go find it.

I don't know why people always say "squandered what could have been / could have been so much more". That is such a ridiculous statement. ANYTHING CAN BE ANYTHING WITH INFINITE TIME AND INFINITE RESOURCES. That's like saying my car could have been so much more! My car could have been a fighter jet but all I got was this stupid car. (Even though I chose to buy the car...) That statement is the easy way out when you want to make a complaint but don't have any real substance. Its a forum trope and its rather weak.

So if it could have been more...you are more than welcome to make your own game or apply to Trion and help them out.

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Originally Posted by Sunfury

I don't really see any glaring problems with the current product except for some of the missions. Its can be complex but its not deep. Its a 3rd person shooter with ties to RPG elements. Its meant to grab you with the action and the adventure which it does well on the surface of the game play.

I don't want another MMO that I have to log into every day and spend hours playing "epic calculator". The arkfall events are a ton of fun. The missions suffer from "same things, different day" mistake but I can accept that the game has just come out. The story line is good...considering its based on the show. The mass appeal is great. I love seeing 30 people coming together without the need to look for a group or spend hours in chat. This isn't a lobby game.

If you want a deeper, more complicated game that appeals to a different audience then by all means go find it.

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Thanks for this first post, full of good sense and mature approach of a game :)

The real problem with the game right now, at least how I see it, is there is no content once you surpass EGO 1500 or so. And not only is there no content, you're actually punished for continued play. There are a host of minor problems as well, the two biggest to me are the lack of an intelligent loot/store system and the useless weapon bonuses, both of which have been there since day one.

I'll still play from time to time since I've got family and friends that play, but I won't put anymore money in it until I see some intelligent and meaningful changes.

In some respects the game reminds me of Far Cry 2. So much fun and potential marred by idiotic or just plain lazy design decisions with little intent to ever fix them.

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Originally Posted by 3rdpig

The real problem with the game right now, at least how I see it, is there is no content once you surpass EGO 1500 or so. And not only is there no content, you're actually punished for continued play. There are a host of minor problems as well, the two biggest to me are the lack of an intelligent loot/store system and the useless weapon bonuses, both of which have been there since day one.

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Yup, it boils down to these two things.

This game will continue to go nowhere with the above two systems in place.