Would this be the same magazine that claimed COD was getting more and more original with each release? Rag!
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Would this be the same magazine that claimed COD was getting more and more original with each release? Rag!
The irony of this debate is that even if you isolate the game from comparison to other games outside of its native genre. It is still a painfully average title within its genre. It does a poor job of fostering its community. There is no economy to speak of. There aren't even community goals. The Arkfall events are far more mindless free for all kill zones. Then team oriented experiences. There don't even appear to be camp sites where folks can establish a synergy of rhythm.
That makes it all a fairly poor experience for this genre. Which I will gladly take seeing as I get none whatsoever on my console as is, but there isn't any point in sugar coating it all. We aren't so much playing the game with one another as we are playing the game next to one another. Actually when you think about it rationally. Comparing this game to games outside of its genre. Actually does it a service, because then it gets boost due to the disparities between the genres.
For instance you cannot fight large scale battles of a hundred of more players in a game like Halo, or tool around in a very large persistent world. There is a advantage for both halves when you compare apples to oranges. Make it a apple to apple comparison, and the weaknesses only become more apparent, and not less so.
it's unlikely that their impression was based on the final build of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteelPaladin
why is borrowing from borderlands bad? borderlands technically borrowed from diablo 2 with it's loot system.
destiny is at least a year and a half away.
I played Halo 3 and hated it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btd5025
It just isn't my type of game. So it is it a fact that the I think the game is over hyped and over rated? =P Or is that my opinion?
Sales for either game company doesn't matter to everyone. I have never heard of Trion before and I don't care about defending them to you or anyone else. But seeing Halo fanboys come to the rescue to defend their own "holy grail" is kind of annoying.
Personally I rather wait until the finished version of Defiance comes out before I put my own two cents in. lol
It will be on the PS4 and next Xbox.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardian
Again it is also being sold for PS3 that puts the limit on it not being next gen right there.
Well playing the beta i have to agree with you on most of your points. However that was a Beta build. I expect a bit more in the full version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodece
No economy? Ok Yeah i get that but do you need to have an economy to have fun in an MMO.
Zero group interactions. That's kinda greyish IMHO I remember doing a rescue mission and met another player. He was low on ammo and asked in chat where he could find some i showed him where he could find some more but unfortunately i didn't have my usb keyboard attached to my xbox so i really couldn't reply to him.
The Arkfalls ah yes the the shoot fest that they are i can see the Developers making certain Arkfalls where you do need some coordination or you gonna die and die alot.
In all i'm expecting good things on release but i'm not making it the end all be all MMO.
Destiny will be a simply breath-taking game... On Next Gen. On Xbox 360 it will be little more than an open world Halo 4. Nothing wrong with that, as Halo 4 was a gorgeous game. I've seen everything the Xbox 360 had to offer. TPS, FPS, even RTS. A fine console. One thing I always wanted was a free to play MMOTPS. I would need to be satisfied with the world it took place in, it's presentation, and most importantly it's gameplay... Hello Defiance! I finally got what I've been waiting for.
This rag can make Defiance seem as 'Meh' as they want, but I played the Beta and promptly Pre-ordered the game the very next day based on what I experienced. I froze once, and disconnected once. For that to happen yet I still order the game... It says a lot. I buy lots of games. Nearly every major Title. Of those 10 games a year, 2 will actually be played. I'm that hard to please in the long run. What do I crave? Content. I need my games to have loads of content. From what I can tell this has quite a few weapons (I've heard it claimed there are thousands but I can't confirm that) as well as a Dozen vehicles, and a fairly large map to play on that the Devs will likely expand if we love and nurture the game for extended time.
I defy you, Xbox Magazine.
Wait oxm gave defiance a poor review. OXM the king of pay for a good review? They compared it to a game they haven't even played yet. Just based off bungies track record of making games loaded with quick scoping. Sounds about right for oxmQuote:
Originally Posted by SteelPaladin
Have we actually seen any gameplay of Destiny? The only footage I remember seeing is like five seconds of a guy walking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btd5025
Not true..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardian
Here's an example: When the Xbox 360 first came out, they ported Battlefield Modern Combat over from the original xbox. They made the game for the original console, but re-released an "updated" version of it for the 360, even though you could play the original one on the xbox 360 since its backwards compatible.
So they could release Destiny on PS3/Xbox 360, and then just release an updated version, graphically, for the next gen consoles.
Then you're not looking hard enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by JerZey CJ
Please use proper grammar when referring to my comments. None of what you're saying makes any sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jardian
I don't think anyone here thinks Defiance is "groundbreaking". Other shooters have little to no advancement other than a slightly better gun and people have fun with those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daholic
Destiny has a slated date of 12/31/2013, with the PS4 coming out "this holiday season" it feasible they could launch on that platform but Xbox 360 and PS3 are confirmed. So it will not have any graphical advantage over Defiance and hopefully with a solid head start to work out the kinks Trion will have a solid player base upon Destiny's launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixa
No, it will have a graphical advantage. Remember, Defiance is an MMO and isn't going to have the best graphics. Destiny is a weird single player-but-not and can focus more on graphics and not worry about the amount of players on screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buruko
whats a "meh"?Quote:
Originally Posted by iiReLaX o
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mehQuote:
Originally Posted by mrsmileyyyyyyy
I love the game as well and this is the first Trion game I've ever played. This will not lead to me making a PC powerful enough to play their other games either. Liking a game that you don't doesn't make us fanboys...it's an MMO, you can't have it looking and playing like a single player or even multiplayer game. The game worked just fine for me after the fix and I loved every minute of this game. Let's say it's like Alien Nation as well why don't we......seriously. This is a REAL RPG...borderlands is not IMO, and I don't understand how them not doing main stream ads has anything to do with this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btd5025
I could care less about what some magazine says about this game. I played over 20 hours of the xbox beta and wish I would have had more time. It's a fresh new concept that is as addictive as any video game I've played in a long time. Trion has a winner here and they know it. I too am a bit surprised as to why I don't see more advertising but our gamer world is pretty tight and word of mouth travels at the speed of light. All in all I'd be willing to bet this game enters the Game of the Year status in no time.
halo is a crappy game, they only sell that may copies because 8year olds are not good enough for battlefield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Btd5025
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Originally Posted by loops73
Ok, no need to bash someone else's work just because you don't like it. Don't get me wrong though, Halo 4 got traded into this AND I had the season pass. I liked it at first but it's still the same game with different features...BOII got traded in as well. This game will give me everything that Bioshock and Injustice won't cover (these are the three games I'll be playing for a while). Still rocking B3 though, at least when I get bored I can change it up and do vehicle heavy/only matches.
If you're willing to completely abandon all interest and suspense for "Defiance" because of what one magazine article stated about it, without ever having sat down and given the game a few hours played yourself, then it's my opinion that you're sucking at a proverbial mainstream teat. I think most gamers would agree with me when I say that large scale magazine companies are just that; companies. These are corporations with business partnerships and will do as necessary to ensure that business stays good. You don't expect every news article to be full of the whole and unadulterated truth, so why would you then a review? Especially one published by a large company with an obvious bias?
Personally, I'm giddy for "Defiance." I'm so sick of these re-painted fps'. I'm sick of playing a game and realizing after only five or six hours of play time that this game is exactly like ten other titles in almost every way. I hate spending sixty dollars on a game and sitting back as the credits roll wishing from the deepest pits of my soul (as a gamer) that just one revolutionary idea had come out of the game I just finished. Not that those ideas aren't happening in other titles, it's just not very common. For me, the entirety of "Defiance" is revolutionary as an Xbox player. I could go on for days, but I certainly won't be walking away from this title because some cat in a tall building somewhere wrote a negative review about it.
between bioshock,gears,and defiance im set for a while. not to mention battlefield endgame has been keeping my quite busy....new dead island next month...so many releases this spring I can't keep up!Quote:
Originally Posted by MR_CHEWYNumNums
thats just in the spring man, summer should be busy, if not more busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by loops73
Haha No this isnt a real rpg, you are so sadly mistaken it aint even funny!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MR_CHEWYNumNums
Borderlands and Defiance use the same game engine, so they dumb if they bashing this game because they similar to eachother. That's pretty dumb, both Defiance and borderlands are good games. I just think Defiance is better because of more players and it's connected to a TV
go PS3
I read the article just now and for everything they said about it, they constantly mention its an early build and they are reserving judgement. Gamers make big things out of nothing.
...........................Huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonRodie
This coming from a mag that gives good reviews to CoD games year after year. My guess would be they didn't get paid enough to give Defiance a shining review, and that's alright with me.
It was a preview.
It doesn't have to be bought. There is not necessarily a grand conspiracy. They just might not have been especially enthused. Chances are, however, that you are enthused. C'est la vie. On we all go.
Borderlands is based on the Unreal Engine 3, Defiance uses Trions own engine I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonRodie
The plus side is destiny is being published by activision. and most of the games that they touch have failed after a bit.. also destiny is boasting a ten year life span,,, other downside to that is the xbox360 has only about a year left the next gen is so close to coming out that bringing a game like destiny out and telling everyone that it will be around for 10 years is a massive lie unless their planning on switching format barely a year into their life.
i am a fan of cod and such but my heart is with fallout and similar games! this game will eat at all my spare time and i wont have to play cod anymore lol
Destiny is going to be 3 games plus expansion packs.Quote:
Originally Posted by hybridsteel
I imagine the 360 will only be getting the first game and maybe the first expansion pack.
sounds a bit of a jip really to me.... but what else can i expect from activision profit grubers, they better make that game amazing so people go out and buy it if its in anyway disapointing fans wont buy the next installment kinda like what happened to mass effect.
oxm is loaded with haters. cancelled my subscription months ago due to lack of any helpful reviews. ign and gameinformer are where its at
Being turn based, and leveling system doesn't = RPG, also MMORPG...please learn your terminology. A true RPG is any game you play a unique character that you created and has been placed in an expansive world. Really and truly FF and the other turn based vaguely apply because IMHO following the original RPG rules (D&D), you must create said character or you honestly aren't role-playing. If that was the case, EVERY game should be an RPG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daholic
Most if not all video games are rpg .
The player assumes the roll of a fictional character in a fictional world. That's the definition of roll playing game
This is true...thus why I said "true" and "original"... the terminology changed slightly when turn-based games were created because there was no way those systems could allow you to create a character.Quote:
Originally Posted by gryste
I highly disagree with the current definition because I agree with what you said due to the current interpretation.