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  • 03-31-2013, 05:49 AM
    gryste
    Just cause you couldn't create a character doesn't make it any different . Heck chess can be classed a RPG.

    Only thing DnD did was allow RPG to evolve and become more mainstream but it didn't invent the wheel though it may have made the cart
  • 03-31-2013, 05:54 AM
    MR_CHEWYNumNums
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gryste View Post
    Just cause you couldn't create a character doesn't make it any different . Heck chess can be classed a RPG.

    Only thing DnD did was allow RPG to evolve and become more mainstream but it didn't invent the wheel though it may have made the cart

    Lmao what???? Yes, D&D is considered the creator of the genre dude....look it up. If you're trying to say text based games were...I have to disagree, because once again that's a preexisting character and not one that you created.
  • 03-31-2013, 05:59 AM
    gryste
    No it's the creator of modern RPG. Just as call of duty is seen as the creator of modern fps. Neither were the first.

    He'll the first murder mystery game ( RPG ) supposedly was around the late 1800's a good 100 years before dnd made their rules .
  • 03-31-2013, 06:06 AM
    Derity
    I "meh" the Official Xbox Magazine.

    lol.
  • 03-31-2013, 06:49 AM
    SteelPaladin
    further int the magazine there is a 7-8 page "feature" on Destiny btw, lol.
  • 03-31-2013, 08:51 AM
    DonRodie
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dr D Wayne Love View Post
    Borderlands is based on the Unreal Engine 3, Defiance uses Trions own engine I believe.

    I guess I looked at it wrong and they created they own engine that reminds me of borderlands than lol oh well
  • 03-31-2013, 08:59 AM
    bartish
    Just 1 man's opinion. We all enjoyed the beta and will play the hell out of it.:)
  • 03-31-2013, 09:21 AM
    MarauderShields
    These are the kinds of people that give call of duty nines every year .. there is nothing else to say here.

    Don't worry ark hunters!
  • 03-31-2013, 10:02 AM
    SteelPaladin
    yeah, im stoked. Lets pray the servers hold up on the first day :)
  • 03-31-2013, 10:26 AM
    IIFatalshockII
    Admittedly this will probably not be the best MMOTPS possible, but this is a game based on a show on Syfy so we have to give it room to breathe. As an MMO this will only be as good as we make it. If we support it, then Trion will support it.
  • 03-31-2013, 12:36 PM
    MasterDarKharma
    And the person that said that halos fan base are a bunch of 8yrs lol. Hate to tell you there fan base is alot older than that. Considering I am one and I am 36 and a bunch of my friends are 20 plus and are fans of the series..
  • 03-31-2013, 01:10 PM
    Ichidakiller
    Lol all this arguing about which is going to be better. Ooo another fan boy argument on a forums, never seen that before.

    Lets just give credit where credit is due Halo is a good game for what it is space COD. Not a fan of Halo or COD. But just because some people dont personally enjoy them, doesn't mean that they are bad games. Just not your cup of tea so to speak. No need to bad mouth it or do some broad generalizations about its fan base.

    Destiny is probably going to be a decent game at least just due to the talent and experience of the team making it.
    Defiance is a great game so much so even the minor bugs of beta were not enough to make me think otherwise.
    The beta probably drove sales even higher. Even with its faults and that is saying something about the game. The game is so much fun that even a few of the more obsessed fans have bought multiple copies just because of the distribution problems just so they can play the game on day of release. That in itself says something about the game.

    Im guessing more then a few defiance fans will purchase Destiny.
    For me if its anything like halo with quick scoping and laser sword I will stay away.
  • 03-31-2013, 01:19 PM
    AzuraxHD
    Seems like everyone wants to take a stab at what Defiance has to offer.

    People like us that have played the game though for longer than OXM have know that the game is very very good and addictive. I know for a fact this is the most excited I have been for any game for as long as I can remember.

    Had the game sat on my side for 3 days now, got the game Thursday, and have not been able to play it yet :(
  • 03-31-2013, 01:22 PM
    MRE
    The articles in OXM are what lead me to Defiance. I made up my own mind from there. I often disagree with OXM writers opinions about good/bad games but I am greatfull for the chance to learn about new games which they bring to light.
  • 03-31-2013, 02:31 PM
    Last Outlaw04
    Personally I dont really listen to gaming mags because those reviewers are paid to play and talk about about a game (Sounds like a great job) so I dont really listen to a word they say about the game and personal feel about it there have been a ton of games that have gotten Meh or lower and I was a huge fan of it.
  • 03-31-2013, 02:36 PM
    UsuallyDope
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jardian View Post
    Destiny isnt going to be Next gen hate to break it to you. It is already listed on PS3 store. As for what you had to endure ...You wasnt forced to do anything and if you had taken the time to read and pay attention you would have knowen what to expect. But thats asking alot from what seems to be a common xbox user. So if you think Destiny is going to be soem super end all beat all your going to get one big shock coming lol.

    Hate to break it to you, kid, but Gamestop is offering to swap out peoples copies later in the year for Next-Gen copies of Destiny if they so choose. With the consoles coming out this holiday, the big titles this winter will probably see dual launches on current and Next-Gen consoles. Personally I think Destiny and Watchdogs are going to be the first big games on Next-Gen consoles. Also, to the person who said "Destiny is slated for a 12/31/13 launch" Do you know how stupid that would be? Do you know how many sales you would miss out on release 6 days after christmas? I thought it was common knowledge that arbitrary release dates (such as that one) are place holding dates, my money is on a Q4 or Q1 2014 Launch for Destiny.
  • 03-31-2013, 03:04 PM
    SFGR PHOENIX
    Here's how the major "Gaming journalism" outlets review things:


    1) Is the Publisher EA/Activision/Bethesda?

    If yes, automatic minimum of 8/10. If no, automatic Maximum of 8.5/10


    2) Is the game part of a well-established series?

    If yes, Minimum score of 8.5/10. If no, Maximum score of 8.5/10 if not by one of the three big publishers


    3) How much are getting paid for this game?

    Amount of bribe/advertising = score/10
  • 03-31-2013, 03:04 PM
    Dodece
    Seriously there isn't any excuse to be this insecure this soon. This whole siege mentality that has you treating the success of others as a threat that must be destroyed. Doesn't do this game, or its community any favors, and it doesn't reflect well on you as a gamer. This game doesn't need minions to spread hate filled propaganda. It needs people who will proactively advocate for improvements to the existing game, and that means not being shy about pointing out the flaws.

    This game is a average game. Which doesn't mean that it cannot be fun, and that it cannot be more entertaining for some rather then others. I don't know where this notion came from that says a game has to highly reviewed for gamers to actually play it. The vast majority of games get a average score, and gamers still routinely play them. Well over half of my games collection is games that got a collective meh from reviewers. Didn't stop me from playing them, and enjoying most of them.

    Whether some of you want to admit it or not. The critics have a valid point about this game. The developer has played it safe with its design, and that has lead to what appears to be a fairly generic offering. Greatness come from taking risks. This developer wasn't aiming to create something awesome. When you look at the whole package there isn't anything that remotely resembles original.

    You don't get high marks for trying to be in the middle of the pack. What you get for doing that is a average score. It isn't like what they are doing isn't understandable. Taking risks might have a upside, but more often then not a game developer meets the downside instead. In that the innovation ends up being despised rather then praised. Anyway if they have angled for average. Then there isn't any reason to trash on other developers for having courage to take the risks this developer would not, or to pretend like the reviewers were biased.

    Games don't get high marks for trying to be average. What they get is average scores. A game doesn't need to be fantastic to be enjoyable or playable. It just doesn't get to be recognized as being fantastic.
  • 03-31-2013, 03:14 PM
    RedSparrows
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dodece View Post
    Seriously there isn't any excuse to be this insecure this soon. This whole siege mentality that has you treating the success of others as a threat that must be destroyed. Doesn't do this game, or its community any favors, and it doesn't reflect well on you as a gamer. This game doesn't need minions to spread hate filled propaganda. It needs people who will proactively advocate for improvements to the existing game, and that means not being shy about pointing out the flaws.

    This game is a average game. Which doesn't mean that it cannot be fun, and that it cannot be more entertaining for some rather then others. I don't know where this notion came from that says a game has to highly reviewed for gamers to actually play it. The vast majority of games get a average score, and gamers still routinely play them. Well over half of my games collection is games that got a collective meh from reviewers. Didn't stop me from playing them, and enjoying most of them.

    Whether some of you want to admit it or not. The critics have a valid point about this game. The developer has played it safe with its design, and that has lead to what appears to be a fairly generic offering. Greatness come from taking risks. This developer wasn't aiming to create something awesome. When you look at the whole package there isn't anything that remotely resembles original.

    You don't get high marks for trying to be in the middle of the pack. What you get for doing that is a average score. It isn't like what they are doing isn't understandable. Taking risks might have a upside, but more often then not a game developer meets the downside instead. In that the innovation ends up being despised rather then praised. Anyway if they have angled for average. Then there isn't any reason to trash on other developers for having courage to take the risks this developer would not, or to pretend like the reviewers were biased.

    Games don't get high marks for trying to be average. What they get is average scores. A game doesn't need to be fantastic to be enjoyable or playable. It just doesn't get to be recognized as being fantastic.

    This.

    Whilst I wouldn't say the game is average (especially on the consoles) without playing full release, I would say people don't need to be so absurdly defensive/critical et al.

    Destiny will probably be a superb title: it will. But why on earth does that devalue Defiance, in the here and now? Destiny will clearly be on next-gen consoles as well.

    It's really not hard to think about and consider these things, and appreciate that you can, as the above suggests, enjoy games that others don't, and thoroughly enjoy games that are nowhere near perfect.
  • 04-01-2013, 07:50 AM
    SheepGoat
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Demoniku22 View Post
    Yeah and a lot of mag's gave "Brink" a 6.5 when it was a 2 max, and it only would have got that cuz the concepts and art style were cool. These mag's don't know what they're talking about 99% of the time cuz it's just the reviewer's opinion. Just like if you like or dislike something. It's a shame when people let these magazines reviews make thier purchase decisions which a majority end up regreting at least half the time.

    i agree. i was so excited for that game when i heard about it i preordered it from best buy to get the fallout stuff. that game was the biggest letdown i have ever seen. And i saw Indiana Jones and the Crystal skull.
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