No nerf for saws or any other weapons

Meh...

I just turn up the ambient sound and hear the tell-tale sound of the shotty patrol b4 they roll up on me from behind. Well, sometimes. But it does work if you're willing to try new things.

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Originally Posted by Maitreakow

From what I have heard the SAW is a heck of a lot better regarding jams than the venerable M-60 was. Not had the pleasure of shooting on personally unfortunately. :(

Although an ole Ma Deuce is just a BLAST!

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Yup the 60 was notorious for jams back in the day. Only time a 249 or 240B ever jammed on me was during training exercises, and usually because the blank firing adapter would rattle loose. Today's saws are much better in combat fortunately :)

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Originally Posted by PitBull76

They need to do a one time adjustment to all weapons to bring them in line with their real life counterparts. SAWs are bad *** powerful LMGs in the real world and should remain that way in game. I don't really care either way but it can be annoying to find a weapon I enjoy, spend all the time, scrip, and resources to get the mod slots and mods that I like only to have it nerfed and screw up everything.

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Lol adding realism to this type of game is plain silly, the only mechanic needed for change with the saw is to increase it's spread while ads. As you said it's powerful for damn sure, but have you tried to shoulder fire a 30lb gun with heavy recoil? Yeah lets make it that real and watch no one even look at a saw and prices drop to a couple thousand scrip lol.

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Originally Posted by PitBull76

They need to do a one time adjustment to all weapons to bring them in line with their real life counterparts. SAWs are bad *** powerful LMGs in the real world and should remain that way in game. I don't really care either way but it can be annoying to find a weapon I enjoy, spend all the time, scrip, and resources to get the mod slots and mods that I like only to have it nerfed and screw up everything.

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Um, no they aren't. A SAW is a fire suppression weapon. The M249 SAW is what I am assuming the saw in the game is based on. It's a heavy freaking gun that recoils too much. You cannot shoot that weapon without a mount or tripod. Also, it uses NATO 5.56 ammunition. The same ammo used in m16s and m4s. Those are small rounds. The AK47 and the M240B uses 7.62 ammo which is a larger round with more penetrating power. So please tell me how the real world SAW is so powerful. Like I said, it's purpose is for suppression, not destruction. Trust me, I'm very familiar with the SAW as well as other US Army weapons.

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Originally Posted by Buggman54

if SAWs are going to be brought down to the level of all other weapons then lets just MAKE 1 WEAPON THE SAME. WONT THAT BE FUN. ALL WEAPONS SHOULD BE THE SAME. EQUILITY TO WEAONS HOOOORRY

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Because the SAW made almost all other weapons pointless in PVE, and even rendered most guns in PVP useless compared to a good SAW fully upgraded. SMG's might be the staple as well as Shotguns, but SAW's could kill both faster and at further range than an SMG.

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Originally Posted by JxSiN

Trust me, I'm very familiar with the SAW as well as other US Army weapons.

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SAW's are effective to almost double the range of most AR's, and anyone can fire one whilst prone, kneeling, and if you lean into her you can fire it while standing but it not only hurts like **** when you stop firing you can loose your balance and fall forward possibly shooting yourself in the head or leg depending on how the SAW falls.

Their accuracy is legendary, but you would not be moving and firing them as you can in Defiance... Insanity.

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Originally Posted by xDoMx RaZoR

yea everyone is complaining about a weapon mainly used in pve. what everyone should be complaining about is the boomers and spanners and the displacement field glitch. come on people look at the real problem in pvp here...

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hardly a glitch, more incompetent coding again on trions behalf.

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Originally Posted by JxSiN

Um, no they aren't. A SAW is a fire suppression weapon. The M249 SAW is what I am assuming the saw in the game is based on. It's a heavy freaking gun that recoils too much. You cannot shoot that weapon without a mount or tripod. Also, it uses NATO 5.56 ammunition. The same ammo used in m16s and m4s. Those are small rounds. The AK47 and the M240B uses 7.62 ammo which is a larger round with more penetrating power. So please tell me how the real world SAW is so powerful. Like I said, it's purpose is for suppression, not destruction. Trust me, I'm very familiar with the SAW as well as other US Army weapons.

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your over thinking , as this is a video game. and didn't the sons of guns do a shoulder mounted saw

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Originally Posted by A s0t

your over thinking , as this is a video game. and didn't the sons of guns do a shoulder mounted saw

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Lol I was referring to the post that the guy said they were powerful in the real world. :)

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Originally Posted by nitroz76

If I'm cloaked and put a **** in your face from point blank, OHKing you, how will you balance other EGO powers to combat the cloak when:

A: You have no clue where the enemy is
B: You have no clue when the enemy will strike
C: You have no clue from where the enemy will strike from
D: You are already dead before you can do anything because cloak allowed the enemy to OHK you from point blank without you knowing or being able to do anything about it


Take ego powers out.

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Or they could make it so you look similar to DM Sniper while cloaked instead of 100% invisible.

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Originally Posted by Reichlyn

It made the game easy for them. Tell them its time to start using real skill now instead of using an overpowered gun that makes you feel tough.

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based on who's definition of skill? should we all use wolfhounds and snipers? there is already no variation in weapons with differnt rarities, but i guess all weapons should do the same damage. the long range accuracy penalty for machine guns more than compensates for its high damage. i tell you what, lets go ahead and bring down their damage, but in return all other guns get long range accuracy penalties. that way its more balanced.