Sellers Assemble!!!!

Looking to see if any one else thinks we need to get a group/ clan going in game to set a standard of pricing. I know the mod dealers have a page, but with the changes coming it might not be a bad idea to have a group that we can all pull ideas/ resources from. We could have ppl keep an eye on up coming changes an make adjustments before new content, keep an eye on kinda where the markets kinda flowing to etc. Not limit price per say but figure out what the majority of players are willing to pay for X. It seems that most sellers are just selling to each other or just ripping off the nubs. Not all just have seen it happen. No one one here that I've seen yet any way. But I would agree with a statement I read on another post, someone seen someone else sell X for 200k an that's what they think the going rate is. Any thoughts, opinions etc are welcomed.

i think it would be hard everyone wants more,more,more.

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Originally Posted by Torbin

Looking to see if any one else thinks we need to get a group/ clan going in game to set a standard of pricing. I know the mod dealers have a page, but with the changes coming it might not be a bad idea to have a group that we can all pull ideas/ resources from. We could have ppl keep an eye on up coming changes an make adjustments before new content, keep an eye on kinda where the markets kinda flowing to etc. Not limit price per say but figure out what the majority of players are willing to pay for X. It seems that most sellers are just selling to each other or just ripping off the nubs. Not all just have seen it happen. No one one here that I've seen yet any way. But I would agree with a statement I read on another post, someone seen someone else sell X for 200k an that's what they think the going rate is. Any thoughts, opinions etc are welcomed.

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It's hard to put a price on stuff and this is why. If person a and person b want the same gun that's for auction they are gonna bid against each other. People like me and some others that buy stuff they really want may pay a price not worth it to others. For example a BMG that goes for 2.2 mil. It wasn't the seller's fault it sold for that. The two who were bidding on it REALLY wanted it! Then you have to take into account rolls, synergy, nano and what the gun is used for. A perfect pvp gun will go very very high! Where the same style of the gun with two self revives will go cheap.

Honestly it boils down to the buyer when it comes to price.

Mods are one thing legendaries are another

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Originally Posted by xDoMx RaZoR

Mods are one thing legendaries are another

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Yup this!!!

Mods are all the same and limited in difference....while guns are each individual and some can't be matched..it is too hard to make a uniformed price on something that is so different from one gun to the next

maybe we should try price ranges by thinking of the worst and best possible combos for each type of gun and set price ranges

I agree on that. That two guns that are the same type may not be the same gun due to rolls syns etc. But on the other hand auctioning and selling are two very different things. One has a set price that will go up or down depending on the use or availability or even market trend of said item. The other is based on the buyer/buyers and who wants it the most. I've seen this happen...A. I have oj X for sell. B
How much. A.Make an offer.B. OK how about 30k. A. I was looking to get 40k. C. I'll give you 40k.... and then the bidding war begins. Or for ppl like me that do mod work on weapons. What is a good salvage to scrip ratio.1:1, 1:0.5???? Do we need to start calling ppl out when they do that. Hay man you said sell not auction so what's your price??? Or if they nerf a gun dose that mean to sell or buy??? I just think we could do a lot better in our efforts to try an make things more stable for clients/ players so they have an idea what to except to buy or sell x gun for or how much their going to pay for x services.

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Originally Posted by x3kingsheat136x

maybe we should try price ranges by thinking of the worst and best possible combos for each type of gun and set price ranges

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Again I may pay 1 mil for a gun that I really want that most ppl wouldn't pay that.

And if you don't like the price don't pay it...... simple

Bump it to top.

Great idea.

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Originally Posted by Xylie Star

Again I may pay 1 mil for a gun that I really want that most ppl wouldn't pay that.

And if you don't like the price don't pay it...... simple

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She is right
Exp of auction I did
Gun was vot nano fragger syphon quarter master double reload it had self revive crap on it unroll
But this don't come by to much so I was willing to waste all my money lol even with self and being unrolled and forgot to put no mods I went to 1.2 mill everyone said I was crazy but love that gun so much was even willing to go 2 mill PS rolled it and it came out 30% to vechiles made me cry lol
Still good gun never go negative in PvP now tho lol

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Originally Posted by MrEvilClean

She is right
Exp of auction I did
Gun was vot nano fragger syphon quarter master double reload it had self revive crap on it unroll
But this don't come by to much so I was willing to waste all my money lol even with self and being unrolled and forgot to put no mods I went to 1.2 mill everyone said I was crazy but love that gun so much was even willing to go 2 mill PS rolled it and it came out 30% to vechiles made me cry lol
Still good gun never go negative in PvP now tho lol

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LMAO!!! And my mod shop would have never been possible without it. Sad to hear it rolled damage to vehicles.

The thing that helps proves Xylie's point that you didn't mention is that the guy you beat out bid $1.1M.

The problem is, at least on xbox, there are too many people with too much scrip. Any time a halfway decent gun is posted, it isnt long before the usual suspects take the bidding to a level only a few can afford. And most of the time, they buy the gun to either resell for even more, or put into their inventories forever. Its very tough for many to compete with this, and I really dont know how you can change it, unless you only buy guns from friends and sellers that dont want to rip your face off.

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Originally Posted by Albion

The problem is, at least on xbox, there are too many people with too much scrip. Any time a halfway decent gun is posted, it isnt long before the usual suspects take the bidding to a level only a few can afford. And most of the time, they buy the gun to either resell for even more, or put into their inventories forever. Its very tough for many to compete with this, and I really dont know how you can change it, unless you only buy guns from friends and sellers that dont want to rip your face off.

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True good sir so true I call them the big ballers lol I know who they are once I see them start to bid I give up xD

If you have the best of something, how do you put a price on that?

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Originally Posted by TAG

If you have the best of something, how do you put a price on that?

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True that is. I guess the price is whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Which is why you cant regulate or control weapon pricing.

Okay most of this sounds like auctioning, which I agree if you start it as an auction then sky is the limits. An what's one mans junk is another mans treasure. What determines the best stuff is your buyer. Say I put a gun together, just for giggles green. Open all the mod slots, find mods that help it do better say all green tier 3 an its not syn, a nano an say one good roll, say its a vbi assault carbine. What should I charge for that. That's kinda my problem. Do I charge just over what the game says its worth, or tack up the price for the extra work I put into it. Granted I know I'm not going to get 50k for it but what is a good price range. You could say same for blue an higher.

Good luck trying to reunite sellers... There's too much greedy persons who prefer to maintain the Auction status quo instead of having the courage to play with transparency (first come, first served with solid prices announced, just like in any IRL shop).

But I guess that's how "Human Beings" are in general.

good idea it will never work because it is online interactions were greed overcomes us all with no consequences

It also doesn't help there is likely a false economy for all the commonly traded items.

If we actually knew how common legendary weapons are, or assassin sniper mods, or... then the prices would likely drop dramatically. There are A LOT of players on the consoles in particular who DON'T EVEN KNOW THE FORUMS exist. There could be thousands of oranges and tier 3 mods getting sold to vendors/scrapped simply because the players getting them are unaware they can sell them to other players easily.

Edit: The ONLY way for a realistic economy to be born in this game is for us to get an auction house type system.

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Originally Posted by Torbin

Okay most of this sounds like auctioning, which I agree if you start it as an auction then sky is the limits. An what's one mans junk is another mans treasure. What determines the best stuff is your buyer. Say I put a gun together, just for giggles green. Open all the mod slots, find mods that help it do better say all green tier 3 an its not syn, a nano an say one good roll, say its a vbi assault carbine. What should I charge for that. That's kinda my problem. Do I charge just over what the game says its worth, or tack up the price for the extra work I put into it. Granted I know I'm not going to get 50k for it but what is a good price range. You could say same for blue an higher.

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You do what everyone else does. You think of the price you want others to pay, mark it up significantly then see if others bite or you're negotiated down from there. Welcome to how most games do free trade/selling :P

As for price fixing, good luck with that. Free enterprise, multiplatform/region/player times and just sheer desires by others for money means that none will follow through.

Preteens and socialists may desire it, but it wont happen...... especially with the test server's new prices on things being half a million scrip on some items.

True. Was hoping to get a base line to go off of. Not trying to fix prices. Like some have said almost impossible to do with so many different things that could be on a type of gun etc. All good an valid points. Thanks to all that shared.

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Originally Posted by Dracian

Good luck trying to reunite sellers... There's too much greedy persons who prefer to maintain the Auction status quo instead of having the courage to play with transparency (first come, first served with solid prices announced, just like in any IRL shop).

But I guess that's how "Human Beings" are in general.

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I guess I'm to old fashioned then. I would think that having a price every one can see, an compare to other prices would be a good thing. Heck if I had the lowest marked price you would think that would score me more buyers and repeat buyers.

People are too greedy for set prices (legendry's) so it would never work.

Mods its a great idea, but legendarys, wont work.

The greedy people here will just flip it

"Oh thanks for selling this gun for 300k!"

*Goes to sell it in game for 1 mil


It happens all the time, and without auctions, it cant really be stopped...

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Originally Posted by Torbin

I guess I'm to old fashioned then. I would think that having a price every one can see, an compare to other prices would be a good thing. Heck if I had the lowest marked price you would think that would score me more buyers and repeat buyers.

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Until your left with nothing but your junk, and since you were selling your good stuff at such a good rate, other will be turning around to flip them for profit.

Your now in a situation that has left you with just your undesirable items, and a low amount of scrip for your good ones you did sell. Since others have profited from your "good deals" they have more revenue than you now, and can buy up the better stuff, sell it for more profit, buy more, sell, etc....

This game is the definition of "Nice guys Finish last"

True. Oh well, just a thought. Not like I pull many ojs any way or have the time to farm for hours on end. Was just trying to see what general over all thought of the idea or mind set was.

Mindset = Would be awesome

Reality = Greedy idiots ruin all