ONLINE SHOOTERS and Auto AIM-- Really?

PLEASE SHUT OFF AUTO AIM-- THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE AN OPTION --

This "little" feature is total garbage and massively takes away from the game. Doesn't not having to aim kinda ruin the point of a shooter? It should take skill to hit what you want, not just point that way and hit everything.

It has been verified that Auto-Aim is NOT enabled during PVP. Thanks for clarifying all.


Defiance is a great game, it does have LOTS of issues currently, however enabling auto aim in PVE and/or PVP in any shooter is a complete and total turn off to any decent gamer. This NEEDS to be removed. Please bump if you agree.

;)

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Originally Posted by Lakkiada

PLEASE SHUT OFF AUTO AIM-- THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE AN OPTION --
he fact that Auto Aim is enabled during PVP is absolutely ludicrous.

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If a player is not good enough in PVP, it does not help him. And if he's good, then there is no difference, if he uses it or not.

If you are not very good in PVP, you will be killed with Auto Aim and WITHOUT it. If you are good in PvP, you will not care if your enemy has Auto Aim or not.

AA is disabled in PvP...

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Originally Posted by DeL1I

AA is disabled in PvP...

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Shhh, you're going to ruin it. It's much more entertaining when they don't realize they're wrong.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Shhh, you're going to ruin it. It's much more entertaining when they don't realize they're wrong.

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We're taking him snipe hunting after this too.

I agree.. Auto aim on a shooter is the same thing as an aim bot.. You might as well have the game play for you also, auto walk, auto shoot, auto loot, auto everything.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Shhh, you're going to ruin it...

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Indeed, he told an anecdote from the end. :( It is not funny, even if you will hear the beginning.

So is AA enabled in PVP or not? As far as I can tell, it is. If you zoom in on someone, the cursor follows the player to a certain extent..

Personally, I have AA shut OFF. ALWAYS.
I want to aim where I point the gun, not where the game thinks I should.

Not on. And AA here doesnt follow just takes your sights to the enemys head when you pressed aim, so if they move its usually off. Try it in an arkfall and you get a lower score .

And this is what happens when you invite a console to bed.

I disabled my auto aim a long time ago, it was actually worse for me to aim with it.

The feature was made more for control pad players. M/K players should be ashamed if they have this on.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Shhh, you're going to ruin it. It's much more entertaining when they don't realize they're wrong.

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This is the most adorable/depressing part of it all. It's cute because someone is raging before they understand a situation, and saddening because this is the sort of attitude we have to deal with in gaming these days.

If you haven't caught on yet Lakkiada, the auto aim function only works for non-PvP elements of the game. It disables itself during any PvP function. Even if this feature were to function in PvP, I don't think it would provide much of a benefit. Based on my (incredibly) limited experience with it, it seems to hamper good players than it helps mediocre ones.

The feature really does not do much for mouse and keyboard users, but it is helpful for players using Xbox controllers on their PC. I fail to see any reason to remove it if it serves a purpose for some players. It doesn't intrude on the competitive experience without completely devaluing aim in cooperative elements of the game. I really do not see the issue with it.

Well, we need auto win since I have aa on and have not won any on pvp yet. Oh yeah and I have been on this game since right after beta.

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Originally Posted by Notturno

This is the most adorable/depressing part of it all. It's cute because someone is raging before they understand a situation, and saddening because this is the sort of attitude we have to deal with in gaming these days.

If you haven't caught on yet Lakkiada, the auto aim function only works for non-PvP elements of the game. It disables itself during any PvP function. Even if this feature were to function in PvP, I don't think it would provide much of a benefit. Based on my (incredibly) limited experience with it, it seems to hamper good players than it helps mediocre ones.

The feature really does not do much for mouse and keyboard users, but it is helpful for players using Xbox controllers on their PC. I fail to see any reason to remove it if it serves a purpose for some players. It doesn't intrude on the competitive experience without completely devaluing aim in cooperative elements of the game. I really do not see the issue with it.

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Don't interpret my text as "raging" or being upset. In my opinion, Auto Aim should NOT be included in ANY part of an online shooter. That is all. I asked if it is enabled in PVP or not, to which I have learned it isn't. I have AA off at all times. In any game. It is more of a hindrance to good players.

See ya in the Freight Yard! lol

You know how you summon your Challenger and your character swings 270 degrees in a random direction before the car appears? Thats what AA does in PvE with a scoped weapon. Can't hit the broadside of a matron.

I find it funny people complain/rage about auto aim when if they had any skill they wouldn't care if it was on or not its the same with people saying someone is dumb for using a controller on any pc game as it dont effect you so why should you care? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Lakkiada

PLEASE SHUT OFF AUTO AIM-- THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN BE AN OPTION --

This "little" feature is total garbage and massively takes away from the game. Doesn't not having to aim kinda ruin the point of a shooter? It should take skill to hit what you want, not just point that way and hit everything.

It has been verified that Auto-Aim is NOT enabled during PVP. Thanks for clarifying all.


Defiance is a great game, it does have LOTS of issues currently, however enabling auto aim in PVE and/or PVP in any shooter is a complete and total turn off to any decent gamer. This NEEDS to be removed. Please bump if you agree.

;)

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plus auto aim does auto headshots and headshots are how u kill fast in pvp.

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Originally Posted by Jinto

I find it funny people complain/rage about auto aim when if they had any skill they wouldn't care if it was on or not its the same with people saying someone is dumb for using a controller on any pc game as it dont effect you so why should you care? :confused:

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Auto aim moves the cursor, period. Whether you are good or not. Your argument doesn't really make sense.

To be honest, autoaim only feels like making it easier.And to most of new players, it is easier to shoot the freaking aliens by using autoaim but if we go trough few EGO grades upper, few played hours forward, you start noticing that you shoot even better if you disable autoaim.
I see no reason why autoaim would affect at PvP, there the autoaim helps new players and advanced players make headshots manually, easier.And I think that advanced players also have some skills in their pocket to beat couple of autoaim jerks.

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To be honest, autoaim only feels like making it easier.And to most of new players, it is easier to shoot the freaking aliens by using autoaim but if we go trough few EGO grades upper, few played hours forward, you start noticing that you shoot even better if you disable autoaim.
I see no reason why autoaim would affect at PvP, there the autoaim helps new players and advanced players make headshots manually, easier.And I think that advanced players also have some skills in their pocket to beat couple of autoaim jerks.

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And you guys can probably see, that new players not insulting autoaim.

Sorr for double reply, having some serious internet connection problems and earlier post didn't appear before too late.

There's different types of Auto Aim.

Auto Aim: Lock on and Snap-to Targeting. Lock on is like GTA. Snap to is like Call of Duty. Snap targeting can be toggled on or off in Defiance and is always turned off in multiplayer.

Aim Assist: Sticky aim. Your reticle sticks to the target slightly, helping you keep them in your crosshairs. As far as I know, this can't be completely turned off.


Hitscan: From the moment the gun is fired, the game calculates whether the shot is a hit or a miss.

Bullet magnetism: Bullets bend slightly while traveling to the target. This is usually done to compensate for lag.

AA is mostly based from console players or PC controller players. It is to compensate the inaccuracy of their block-based movements.

Blame them but I'm not saying dirty console peasants. (Oh wait, I did!) O_O