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  • 08-19-2013, 02:40 PM
    JxSiN
    Why the faction vendor weapons still aren't going to be that great
    One word:

    Mods

    How many times do you pull a scavenger sniper mod? Where are the scavenger snipers? I have an Ego Precision Sniper, everytime I pull an ego precision mod it comes out being for a BMG. Where are the Ego precision BMGs? At 100 faction cost (which is equivalent to 1 weekly and 5 dailies-- so no less than 5 days between 7 days per 1 mod pull) how fast do you think you are going to be able to fully mod that new great faction weapon with matching synergy mods?
  • 08-19-2013, 02:41 PM
    GiantInMaine
    Totally agree I won't be buying them.
  • 08-19-2013, 02:42 PM
    Awesome Jeff
    You do realise you'll be able to buy these mods from the mod vendors?
  • 08-19-2013, 02:45 PM
    JxSiN
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Awesome Jeff View Post
    You do realise you'll be able to buy these mods from the mod vendors?

    Faction mods? I haven't seen any other than scavenger sniper ones posted from the alpha server
  • 08-19-2013, 02:47 PM
    Cavadus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Awesome Jeff View Post
    You do realise you'll be able to buy these mods from the mod vendors?

    Not faction-specific synergy mods.
  • 08-19-2013, 02:48 PM
    NomadPhx
    i got full set of scavenger for my votan pulser, which doesn't seem to do anything at 2% drop increase... on a side note those faction guns dont keep their mastery bonus, at least mine dont. everytime i change phases all my faction weapons. rotate their mastery bonus to something different. ive asked about this before but received 0% information on the matter.
  • 08-19-2013, 02:49 PM
    JxSiN
    OK, so maybe scavenger... but where are the others like Ego Precision?
  • 08-19-2013, 03:36 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    OK, so maybe scavenger... but where are the others like Ego Precision?

    Plenty of Scav sniper mods and no Scav sniper weapons, as you say.
    Hardboiled S/A snipers, and EGO Precision sniper mods. Where are the vice/versa?

    I've got a Scav Pulsar, and finally found 2 mods, but the return isn't really noticeable.

    Paradise vendor at Eastern Shore docks. Who sells the mods for those one-of-a-kind weapon syns? I dont see mod boxes in the vendor there.

    A lot of my inventory is storing stuff in case it's needed. I've got 331 slots full and about 80 weapons in them, a lot of them are mods for weapons that don't exist in game at all.

    And the reason it's so expensive to pull mods back off a weapon is so you have to buy inventory slots/space.
    Otherwise everyone would just store all their mods on excess weapons in inventory, and the number of inv slots would be cut by 70% to 80% for many people. Imagine all the income from bits to buy slots that little marketing gem gained them.

    Edited to add (from a reply below):
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    Definitely no scavenger sniper rifles in the game currently. For the life of me I cannot pull an Ego Precision Sniper mod. After pulling my 4th BMG Ego Precision mod, I gave up.

    My mistake, I apologize.
    I meant to say EGO Precision AR/LMG/SMG mods, not sniper mods.
    And I get Prepared sniper scopes.
  • 08-19-2013, 03:39 PM
    JxSiN
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crasher View Post
    Plenty of Scav sniper mods and no Scav sniper weapons, as you say.
    Hardboiled S/A snipers, and EGO Precision sniper mods. Where are the vice/versa?

    I've got a Scav Pulsar, and finally found 2 mods, but the return isn't really noticeable.

    Paradise vendor at Eastern Shore docks. Who sells the mods for those one-of-a-kind weapon syns? I dont see mod boxes in the vendor there.

    A lot of my inventory is storing stuff in case it's needed. I've got 331 slots full and about 80 weapons in them

    And the reason it's so expensive to pull mods back off a weapon is so you have to buy inventory slots/space.
    Otherwise everyone would just store all their mods on excess weapons in inventory, and the number of inv slots would be cut by 70% to 80% for many people. Imagine all the income from bits to buy slots that little marketing gem gained them.

    Definitely no scavenger sniper rifles in the game currently. For the life of me I cannot pull an Ego Precision Sniper mod. After pulling my 4th BMG Ego Precision mod, I gave up.
  • 08-19-2013, 03:47 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    Definitely no scavenger sniper rifles in the game currently. For the life of me I cannot pull an Ego Precision Sniper mod. After pulling my 4th BMG Ego Precision mod, I gave up.

    My mistake, I apologize.
    I meant to say EGO Precision AR/LMG/SMG mods, not sniper mods.
    And I get Prepared sniper scopes.
  • 08-19-2013, 03:50 PM
    JxSiN
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crasher View Post
    My mistake, I apologize.
    I meant to say EGO Precision AR/LMG/SMG mods, not sniper mods.
    And I get Precision sniper scopes.

    I had someone offer to sell me a scope. I said I would wait until him or I came across any of the other ones. I'm still waiting lol
  • 08-19-2013, 03:57 PM
    Deathwish
    You may not have seen it, but on the alpha server during the play test, the bit market was updated. One of the things new in the market was a Mod section.

    My guess is, you are going to be able to buy top line mod and the exact synergy you want for Bits, although it was empty in alpha and will be the new home for the color change mods for charge blades. You can still get the RNG crates and try to get your mod that way or vendor hump for specials or fork over a few Bits and buy the exact blue mod for the exact synergy you want, at least that's my guess.

    We won't know for sure til the DLC is actually released and the final store is shown.
    In the new version, each area had a mod vendor for particular weapons(Ex: AR, LMG, SMG machine, Bolt and Semi Machine, Pump, Combat, Sawed Off Shotgun Machine, etc) that sold all the mods with and without synergy up to rank 2(ie green mods).

    It's a gold mine waiting to happen for Trion, but will make people scream about pay to win.

    Now blue mods did still show up as daily specials so you can still vendor hump on a daily basis,
    but if you could pay a few bits and get the exacts mods you want/need and it will kill the mod market as we know it.
  • 08-19-2013, 04:01 PM
    GiantInMaine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deathwish View Post
    Now blue mods did still show up as daily specials so you can still vendor hump on a daily basis

    Dang daily? I thought it would be hourly. You positive about that?
  • 08-19-2013, 04:03 PM
    Deathwish
    When I say "Daily Special" I meant the normal specials you get that reset every hr or 2, which probably equates to a game day, so they might be daily specials after all.
  • 08-19-2013, 04:04 PM
    GiantInMaine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Deathwish View Post
    When I say "Daily Special" I meant the normal specials you get that reset every hr or 2, which probably equates to a game day, so they might be daily specials after all.

    Oh ok you had me worried a bit.
  • 08-19-2013, 04:35 PM
    RealHoosier07
    I believe FACTION vendor mods
    are only found in the faction vendor random mod box. I'm not sure on this, but from what others have said it seems to be the case. The vendors that sell mods are only mods for NON faction synergies. The good thing about the faction weapons though is that they are higher damage. I'm not sure how much higher, but for instance the Frontier Saw from Top Notch Toolworks is a higher damage Saw than any other in the game. The synergies might be harder to come by, but those faction guns deal more dps than normal guns.
  • 08-19-2013, 04:46 PM
    Deathwish
    Correct the normal SAW was 303, I believe the FRC SAW from Top Notch was like 330. And I think it is only a matter of time before they add mods to those vendors for faction and scrip for white and green versions. I think the new mod stations are a test bed and if they go over well enough, the faction vendors may get an updated or even a new faction mod terminal in the future, at least one can hope.

    Although if you want blue mods you will have to play mod roulette with the mod boxes.
  • 08-19-2013, 05:18 PM
    maverick07
    All the pics I have seen of Faction Vendor Weapons on the Alpha Server have a 10% damage buff. That's a pretty good boost and even if you don't get synergy mods for them they still might be worth it.

    That is probably what I will do. I doubt I'll play RNG to get the mods for them if you can still get mods for weapons that don't exist out of those Faction Mod Caches.
  • 08-19-2013, 05:38 PM
    MisterDakka
    Mod roulette indeed. I've been trying to get prepared synergy mods for my Frontier SAW and the RNG gods are just laughing at me
  • 08-19-2013, 05:40 PM
    Valentine
    *sings*
    I have a taychon laced EGO precision 3 modd~~~~~
    da-dee-da-dee-da
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