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  • 08-24-2013, 02:13 PM
    NomadPhx
    charge blades at AF crystals
    i noticed as i was hacking away at a hellbug minor arkfall that even after the critical spot went away i could still slice it for 2500 damage (melee/blur setup) making it only take 2 min. a group of 4 samurais could own a crystal in no time lol
  • 08-24-2013, 02:13 PM
    GiantInMaine
    Well not for long I would imagine.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:14 PM
    duction
    thanks for letting everyone know. ugh
  • 08-24-2013, 02:15 PM
    NomadPhx
    id rather it be fixed then never be able to make it to one again, but thats just me lol
  • 08-24-2013, 02:17 PM
    duction
    it was implemented by trion, why wouldnt they know about it?you couldnt do that damage before with a normal mele attack, once you make a big deal about it everyone will.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:22 PM
    NomadPhx
    im not even making a big deal, it was 1 post and it wasnt even full of venom. im pretty sure they didnt purposely do that though because you can only keep getting crit damage if you hit where the weakspot was
  • 08-24-2013, 02:23 PM
    August Barkley
    It's honesty or envy? :)
  • 08-24-2013, 02:25 PM
    duction
    your supose to milk it for a while at least.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:26 PM
    Pyth
    It's merely information. Besides, it's not as if the developers are deaf, blind and dumb.

    When they **** us, they're fully aware of how deep they're going.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:28 PM
    NomadPhx
    the quicker the bugs are gone the better it will be, plus them swords are bound to get nerfed once the pvp community gets hacked and sliced by blur and all its melee bonuses lol
  • 08-24-2013, 02:31 PM
    Pyth
    I think the only sensible course of action now is to nerf shotguns again.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:32 PM
    duction
    the swords blow without some fun to be had with them.
  • 08-24-2013, 02:33 PM
    NomadPhx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    I think the only sensible course of action now is to nerf shotguns again.

    lol i dont think the magazines can take another low blow, but the heavy scattergun got a micro buff
  • 08-24-2013, 03:17 PM
    PurePlayinSerb
    crystals took way to long to destroy before, it was my least liked arkfall, this makes it less annoying
  • 08-24-2013, 04:36 PM
    Pipes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NomadPhx View Post
    the quicker the bugs are gone the better it will be, plus them swords are bound to get nerfed once the pvp community gets hacked and sliced by blur and all its melee bonuses lol

    Except they wont because its useless. Guns with melee bonuses and stocks far outdmg it and u dont stand still while using them. Theyre a novelty in pvp
  • 08-25-2013, 09:59 AM
    NomadPhx
    i saw almost the entire opposite team with them last night, the normal melee still works with the sword and it sometimes does more than the slash.
  • 08-25-2013, 10:12 AM
    Dist0rt3d Hum0r
    Its the same as with the infectors. If you hit a crit spot with them and keep swinging then you'll continue to do the critical damage since the game seems to register the initial hit on the crit spot as one long attack that never ends. If you stop for a sec, get hit, or change targets then you damage will revert back to normal.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    I think the only sensible course of action now is to nerf shotguns again.

    You know that's going to become synonymous with Defiance now. Kind of how like Hats is the answer to everything for TF2. xD
  • 08-25-2013, 10:58 AM
    Flank
    Brutal synergy.. melee bonus roll, guerilla stock, and blur.
    Crit spots on crystal suffered the same fate before the arrival of charge blades.
  • 08-25-2013, 11:02 AM
    Cylumne
    honestly given the cost of the blades in both rep /script the fact you must buy the dlc to use charge blades they should wipe your arse for you whilst is at it honestly they do not do enough dmg in my humble opinion and should do double what they do ..
  • 08-25-2013, 12:21 PM
    Elric1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pipes View Post
    Except they wont because its useless. Guns with melee bonuses and stocks far outdmg it and u dont stand still while using them. Theyre a novelty in pvp

    I want to me you and your gun that way I can show you how little you even land one of those fantastic hits on me. The only thing you'll be doing is a two hop back stroke if I have blur on three without. Guns meleeing blades lol. They gave us everything to us to make sure you COULDN'T beat a blade with a gun by melee only. I've proved it to quite a few already that spoke like you. Guess you need someone to correct you also.
  • 08-25-2013, 12:24 PM
    NomadPhx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cylumne View Post
    honestly given the cost of the blades in both rep /script the fact you must buy the dlc to use charge blades they should wipe your arse for you whilst is at it honestly they do not do enough dmg in my humble opinion and should do double what they do ..


    tier 4 lockbox, or do you not see the patch notes? i thought you've been around long enough to read lol
  • 08-25-2013, 12:24 PM
    Elric1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cylumne View Post
    honestly given the cost of the blades in both rep /script the fact you must buy the dlc to use charge blades they should wipe your arse for you whilst is at it honestly they do not do enough dmg in my humble opinion and should do double what they do ..

    Well really if done right they can pretty much go toe to toe with anything but boss types of any kind. HOWEVER and this is the balancing part; because they have no real range Blur is for PvE and Cloak is just about a MUST for PvP. There is a nice set of checks and balances swords are the new shotguns really except you get to look REALLY stupid be popped up in the air to death. I think we both do but since I would likely win it's ok =)
  • 08-25-2013, 01:05 PM
    Mr LightningBolt
    Ugh someone had to say something
  • 08-31-2013, 11:22 AM
    NomadPhx
    considering all the people showing their friends this and telling em about it i guarantee i was the last to know anyway and they havent even commented on here about a fix or that it was not intentional. do i give a flying f-u-c-k if your upset cause i made a post? take a guess and find out lol
  • 08-31-2013, 12:01 PM
    Tkir Rel
    Personally, I hope they change this. Although some folks would like to blow through an Arkfall as fast as possible to collect their keys, other folks would rather have mobs to kill. Not all players know about phase jumping, and don't see a steady steam of Arkfalls. You know the designers wouldn't intend the damage to be dealt this way anymore than they intended blast damage to take out the shielded scrapper cores.

    Kudos to the OP for posting a fix request instead of blatantly abusing screwed up game mechanics for his own gain.
  • 08-31-2013, 12:40 PM
    Falandarin
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    I think the only sensible course of action now is to nerf shotguns again.

    LOL I'm still waiting for them to get buffed. I have seen no discernible difference but that's just me.
  • 08-31-2013, 01:13 PM
    August Barkley
    You should not blame the blade! :)

    I just checked the standard melee attack - F button - the same effect! The standard attack is a little slower... However, the crystal is damaged equally!

    http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6764/e26g.jpg
  • 08-31-2013, 02:14 PM
    Pipes
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elric1 View Post
    I want to me you and your gun that way I can show you how little you even land one of those fantastic hits on me. The only thing you'll be doing is a two hop back stroke if I have blur on three without. Guns meleeing blades lol. They gave us everything to us to make sure you COULDN'T beat a blade with a gun by melee only. I've proved it to quite a few already that spoke like you. Guess you need someone to correct you also.

    Then you are facing crap players. A gun with melee bonuses and a melee stock with blur far outdamages and outmanouvers charge blades. You are stuck in one tiny forward motion while swinging that blade. A gun meleer however can smack you and run past, back off run forward into you for the 2nd melee hit you wont survive while you are swinging away with crappy camera all over tne place. Not to mention guns have melee nano's on them that proc a lot.

    Basic damage on charge blades is dog**** compared to the guns. The charge is nigh on useless. The jumping attack isnt bad but again, the delay after landing is terrible. We'll go 1 on 1 then if ure on xbox euro. Let me get myself a triple melee bonus gun with melee stock and a syphon nano, and you use your glowy toothpick, see who drops first. I know firsthand from Legato twatting me with his melee gun how much more damage they do then blades.
  • 08-31-2013, 02:20 PM
    FrostEffect
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NomadPhx View Post
    tier 4 lockbox, or do you not see the patch notes? i thought you've been around long enough to read lol

    because tier 4 lockboxes is where defiance makes their money at with the overmarked prices compared to legendary. Do you not read other forums retaining to how tier 4 lockboxes became worse with the arival of chargeblades inside them to pull a legendary? ehh. but it would take a random to make such a comment like this without investigating the end result of a tier 4. -facepalm-
  • 08-31-2013, 02:26 PM
    FrostEffect
    By the way to further explain your illiterate investigation; do you only do hellbug arkfalls? that "weakpoint" was added within the crystal for raider/mutant "advanced weapons" to pinpoint certain spots (the fist advanced weapon to be exact) this was the area on the crystal that took the most damage from that fist.

    enough said; have a nice day.

    EDIT:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by August Barkley View Post
    You should not blame the blade! :)

    I just checked the standard melee attack - F button - the same effect! The standard attack is a little slower... However, the crystal is damaged equally!

    http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6764/e26g.jpg


    My point exactly; this is the weakest point in the crystal for advanced weapon - fist to hit and do alot of damage to the crystal as the other sides of the crystal the damage done is 100-150 by a charge blade.

    ignorant kids need to be taught to defiance... -facepalm-
  • 09-04-2013, 02:16 PM
    NomadPhx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FrostEffect View Post
    because tier 4 lockboxes is where defiance makes their money at with the overmarked prices compared to legendary. Do you not read other forums retaining to how tier 4 lockboxes became worse with the arival of chargeblades inside them to pull a legendary? ehh. but it would take a random to make such a comment like this without investigating the end result of a tier 4. -facepalm-

    i wasnt aware that trion made money on script but apparently they do. they drop blue and up so it doesnt have to be the one legendary blade. oh, sorry, 2 legendary blades. i investigated my friends loadout and he had the orange from tier 4 along with 3 blue ones but without a screenshot i guess nothing i say would matter, seeing as though its impossible to doctor photos on the internet.......
  • 09-04-2013, 02:18 PM
    duction
    new forum rule:

    Exploits and Hacks: Exploits, hacks, or any behavior that gives a player an unfair advantage are detrimental to the spirit of the game. Any posts involving hacks or exploits will be removed from the forums. If you encounter such activity, please file an in-game ticket with a GM.


    this topic needs deleting
  • 09-04-2013, 02:22 PM
    NomadPhx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FrostEffect View Post

    ignorant kids need to be taught to defiance... -facepalm-

    facepalm? you type like a 16 year old girl and im the kid? like, O to the M to the G, i guess ill like totally have to grow up and junk
    #im a big boy now, #like, whatever... lol does that work for you??
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