So after seeing all the dlc buyers ride in the rapture (forgive me if i spell it wrong) with four people, i wanted it badly only to see it is slower then a snail. What do you guys feel about that the snail ?
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So after seeing all the dlc buyers ride in the rapture (forgive me if i spell it wrong) with four people, i wanted it badly only to see it is slower then a snail. What do you guys feel about that the snail ?
A snail would be more useful.
The raptor needs 1 to drive, 3 to push. Handles worse than the diaper truck (titan) and has less health than the Nomad.
I agree with Arsenic, atleast a snail could take more damage and quite possibly outrun the raptor.
has anyone done a raptor vs blur race?
The raptor needs a change on his stats, its a paid vehicle (even if you get it "free" by getting seasson pass or DLC) it must have at last the stats of the nomad, why the hell i want use a vehicle that is slowest that any other and has less life, c'mon that garbage even cant climb like the rest.
I love this game, but that vehicle is a joke like a few weapons
I agree a snail would be better. And forget about it if you run into the volge which seem to be taken over the game for some reason
yeah Vastier lol, im always crashing into a volge roadblock and barely escaping with my dodge, with the raptor attempting to escape would be futile.
I'm quite convinced the devs hate their jobs and they hate us by extension.
Lollie i might have to agree with you on that one. They **** on a a game that is or could be so amazing but at the end of the day they tried to make a mmo on xbox so i tell myself that too cool down some of the anger i get lol
I am waiting for Raptor Challenge weekends. That would prove Lollie is right...
Yupp who can destroy the car first wins. It would be a very fast race..
Slow does not mean bad! But, yes: Craptor is pretty slow.
^ I'm still laughing!!Quote:
Originally Posted by melkathi
My guess is that it's slow because it's intended to drive 3 other players. The game needs time to render for the other 3 players, while you're driving.
only use the Raptor for like 2 minutes. Its slow as heck. Not using it again..
Using the Dodge ever since I got it from Crystal Pond Vendor.
Stupid thing (liking the name "Craptor" btw) should have a turret gun on top and should be a Cerberus class vehicle. And go faster, and be stronger than anything out there. Maybe then we'll talk Trion.
The idea of the turret sounds like a mess of lag at arkfalls, which we already have enough off! I don't need 100 craptors honking there hons and slinging bullets well I'm trying to not grt dced hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Lollie
It's slow, the handling sucks, and it's main purpose was removed before release.
It's just a glowing orange turd.
Flintstone vehicle. Yaba Daba Slow!
This is it right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by nitroz76
I guarantee this vehicle was planned long ago - by the old dev team. Its initial purpose and advantage was to have a turret. This was then balanced by slower speed and some vulnerability.
But they could not make the turret work and so pulled it, but released the vehicle anyway. So this is why the vehicle is sub-par.
If they had a turret on the thing what would you shoot at? The render distance while driving around would never show you any targets, so the driver would have to constantly stop just to see if anything was around to shoot at.
I bet they were trying to figure out how to make the vehicle something more than just a way to tag arkfalls.
Sure. I'll bet that's why it was not released thus far. But if the turret was just a fire platform for a player with their own guns, it could work. Of course, it gives you the protection of the vehicle, so I could see everyone at arkfalls riding these things and laying waste to volge emergencies. It could become OP I guess. Probably why they disabled the turret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zugo
But they then should have increased the vehicles other stats in exchange.
Hmm, have a questions now.
Does the Raptor stay active with a passenger in the back if the driver gets out? Does everyone riding the car get credit for kills?
It's more likely the render issue Zugo mentioned. But I definitely love your idea of the raptor being a platform for players to fire from instead of having a turret. I doubt it has anything to do with the turret being overpowered because they could've changed it to a weapon that just procs radiation or a BMG turret.Quote:
Originally Posted by janzig
OK I know this will be seen as a defense of Trion post but here goes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch
I'm speaking of the xbox game right now.
A lot of people have the Raptor, but not a lot of people drive the Titan. When people do use the Titan, it causes a lot of lag. The Challengers do as well. Even the ATVs in huge numbers cause lag.
I believe that a lot of the Raptor decisions were made by working backwards. They didn't just say "what's the coolest truck we can make" and then release it. They created it and then looked and really thought about what problems it might cause and what things people didn't like about vehicles.
People hated vehicles at arkfalls-for one they caused horrible lag. Everyone must admit that when there's lag, at best things don't render, can't be seen at arkfalls. At worst, we get lagged out because some are spamming vehicles.
People suggested ways to fix the situation. As a game dev, you have to choose the thing that does the least destruction to the game and which is least likely to force you to patch things it broke, because patches break more things. So, they had to choose the reduction in damage resistance to vehicles-so there'd be fewer at arkfalls.
People wanted a turret. Well, right now they decided not to do a turret. Not because it couldn't be done but because it might cause lag (every shot of a gun, causes lag) and it might get spammed at arkfalls and other events. That means more people using Raptors and turrets at arkfalls, causing more people to lag out. Ok, so someone's having fun in a Raptor, but 10 people who just got lagged out are not.
Then, there's the whole thing about matchmaking and rendering people in the vehicle. Putting 4 people into it means you are forcing the game to override the best matches it could make (for server stability) and not only putting people into the same phase, but into the same vehicle. Not only does that mean that others might lag out, but those in the vehicle might (and do sometimes). Add speed to it. That makes it more likely for a lot of fast Raptors with 4 people in them to be running around at arkfalls. And that causes, guess what, lag. It also means that the people in the vehicle may end up far behind it and will just fall out-it happens now when lag is bad for the Cerberus. And at arkfalls it would be this-4 people having fun just lagged out 20 people who are now mad.
The turret is not there and not announced as part of the DLC--yes things were said and things happened, someone said the wrong thing--not debating that, but a lot of people are complaining that they removed it but the turret stand is still there--some say cross hairs too, but I don't have any. It might just be that someone looked at it without the turret and thought it still looked cool, and it does. It's funnier than anything to be standing up there like Patton directing the driver and have this slow vehicle try to get up a hill. In Mass Effect, a lot of people hated the Mako because it was quirky and bounced all over the place, but a lot of people loved it because it was kind of a mess.
Sometimes, it's not about having the best super speedy super bad***** vehicle in all things. Sometimes, it's having fun with quirky. Boring would be having a Cerberus to ride around with every where.
I just think people need to realize that we can't always get everything we want and that there may be reasons other than because Trion sucks. And this may well be more of an issue for consoles, but oh well, console sales were higher, at least in the first 10 weeks. It's just the state of things-devs want to sell to consoles and if they can to PCs then they will.
They could have added anything, but should they have is the question. A BMG turret-do you know how much lag that would cause. Half of the reason people are getting lagged out so much at arkfalls has to do with all the people tagging them with BMGs. Some people never stop BMGing and make it impossible to even see to shoot. And that's followed by me, not being able to shoot, not being able to change weapons, and then knowing I need to log out before I lag out at a bad time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiltmilk
Oh I actually didn't know about vehicles or BMGs causing lag. I have to admit, I haven't had any lag issues with this game at all other than not rendering players. Just random disconnection issues or buggy UI. Darn, I guess that's going to severely limit what content they can add to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indra Echo
Consoles limit this game in almost every way, it's starting to get tragic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiltmilk
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by A s0t
That would be awesome. I'd put my money on Blur.
LOL! So true! I compared it to the MED TECH Roller and the M.T.R had all but one stat green. Think is was boost amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch
Suggestions: The Raptor should be classified under Cerberus instead of Roller, and have the highest health. Increase the speed to match Cerberus vehicle seen in the MP matches and the Co-op map Explosions 101. And if possible, tune-up the torque power so it can take hills better.
This!Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch
Does anyone even use it?
wth was Trion thinking with that thing? what a waste of something new and fun.
:(
If you got to drive Gary the Snail, you could have interesting conversations while driving.
Starting to get tragic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch
Dude.. it's BEEN tragic since they nerfed draw distance on PC's to keep it the same as consoles.. and it's been downhill ever since! This is really a digital version of Elektra!!
The affectionately named "Craptor" is without a doubt the biggest waste of pixels and time in the whole game. it's not too bad when your roller skill is already at 20, but c'mon.. it should be marked as a Cerebus.
The fact that it's slow, no turret, no skin/plating/armor to speak of (sorry passengers, but your all around just to protect the driver!) and handles like someone driving on Slo-Mo make it the absolutely WORST vehicle in any game I've ever played. Even the first level speeders in SWTOR had SOME type of benefit!
I'm available for hire as a Gatling gun sound effect voice over.Quote:
Originally Posted by antlad
You can drive around all you want, and I'll stand in the empty turret making machine gun sounds for you. I may throw in a few explosion sounds if you're particularly good natured.
LMBO! Ride with me bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zugo
I was thinking the same thing the first time a saw it. From a design point of view it is "weak". I was hoping for something like the vehicle Nolan and Irisa ride off in at the end their episode. Or what Cooper rides in during his cut scenes. But we got - lol - what we got. :/ And stack the bad stats on top of that.... -_-Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazy Karen
Funny thing is I think the Titan is even faster than the Raptor.
I think the biggest problem is vehicle physics. They include the weight of the vehicle, but real vehicles have engines that match their weight with torque. Also I notice they all spin around their center point instead of the way a normal 2WD vehicle works, Its more like they are 4 wheel steering when they drive forward. The only vehicles that seem to be 4WD are the runners. The runners work better because they are smaller, which is why I tend to use them more. If the raptor, and the Nomad, had more torque and 4WD, at least you could climb over things better. The Duni and the Challengers would do better if they drove forward like they should. Out of all the rollers I would say the Duni's and runners accomplish traving off road the best, with the Challengers doing best on the roads and side roads. The Nomad is better for running over mobs :D
Here is an idea, setup a race track that is a combination of on and off roading and take all the vehicle types and race them together :D