The most slowest car in the game

I have a good laugh everytime someone drop the car near an arkfall, and someone else see "Turret seat" and think it will be cool. Stay in the seat for 5m wondering how to shoot the invisible turret.
This car is useless. And don't start about lag on console. I don't see how someone shooting from a turret is generating more lag than 50 guys shooting outside the car. BTW, I hate you console, you're probably the reason why SF is not a ruined city but a wasteland, everyone look the same and we have a sh** UI.

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Originally Posted by Erei

I have a good laugh everytime someone drop the car near an arkfall, and someone else see "Turret seat" and think it will be cool. Stay in the seat for 5m wondering how to shoot the invisible turret.
This car is useless. And don't start about lag on console. I don't see how someone shooting from a turret is generating more lag than 50 guys shooting outside the car. BTW, I hate you console, you're probably the reason why SF is not a ruined city but a wasteland, everyone look the same and we have a sh** UI.

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One person shooting from one turret won't cause that much lag, but if it had turrets everyone would use one at arkfalls and 50 or 60 people using the Raptor with turrets would cause lag. Please read for understanding instead of just being mad because it doesn't have a turret. Think about what you might do and then multiply it times 50 or 60.

Just like one person using a BMG is not so bad, but 20 causes incredible lag.

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Originally Posted by StormRaging

Funny thing is I think the Titan is even faster than the Raptor.

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Can someone verify this??

lol it cant be

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Originally Posted by Krazy Karen

Can someone verify this??

lol it cant be

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Sad but true.

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Originally Posted by PseudoCool

The affectionately named "Craptor" is without a doubt the biggest waste of pixels and time in the whole game. it's not too bad when your roller skill is already at 20, but c'mon.. it should be marked as a Cerebus.

The fact that it's slow, no turret, no skin/plating/armor to speak of (sorry passengers, but your all around just to protect the driver!) and handles like someone driving on Slo-Mo make it the absolutely WORST vehicle in any game I've ever played. Even the first level speeders in SWTOR had SOME type of benefit!

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Well some people (sure maybe a lot of people) can't see anything but the worst a lot of the time. Yeah, it'd be nice if it was faster, and all that, but that does not mean there is nothing good about it. It's a lot of fun to ride around in with friends. I mean, really it's not like we really need it to speed around anywhere - getting up hills better would be nice, but why should it? The Challenger even has problems and the Cerberus--well it's not the best at doing things either.

I'm just saying can't you all for once just try and have fun with something? Why does it all have to have a specified purpose and be so serious? Unless it's got some real purpose, you all just hate it-it's that way with everything. Well, still it's a game. The outfits have no purpose but still people like to change them out. But oh crap why should I? Doesn't make me faster or stronger. What kind of garbage is this? There's no real reason in the game to have different cars anyway. But just playing around with them can be fun.

I just don't think everything should be first run through the filter that many are using.

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Originally Posted by Indra Echo

, but that does not mean there is nothing good about it. It's a lot of fun to ride around in with friends.
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You must have not bought the DLC.

Anyone who has driven that thing knows its NOTHING but bad within 15-25 sec....

Its not fun...

its not fun at all actually lol, there is honestly nothing good about it (I think it looks kinda cool actually, but that's all)

In a week when the DLC is old, you wont see one on the road....unless you like missing out on arkfalls or showing up late to things :p

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Consoles limit this game in almost every way, it's starting to get tragic.

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That is the truth and what people are just starting to realize in a big way. It's tragic but it is what it is. I do think even the next gens will suffer somewhat from this-if only because it won't be enough to say take a game like this and make it so that lag doesn't affect it, but everything will have to be exponentially better thereby making lag an issue once again. I've wondered if this is why Destiny seems to have been scaled somewhat back from what fans initially believed it would be-not going to be an MMO.

If anyone questions what causes lag on consoles they can do some tests themselves. Some clans have come to realize it. We'd do big clan events, like arkfalls and had to use ATVs to get to them and while waiting for the event to start would have to sit still so as not to lag people out. People would get impatient and use detonators and lag outs would start. BMGs too and lag outs. Then, we'd all start to go to the arkfall and 10 people would lag out once the vehicles started.

We'd do on foot Volge Hunting so as not to lag people out. Some people would want to get ahead and get in a Duni and lag people out. Someone would be running along playing with their BMG and lag people out. Detonators too. And even just being in a huge crowd of people that were not perfect matches being made by the server (overriding matches the game made for better stability) would lag people out. People do misunderstand the causes and effects of things in the game and yes, mostly for consoles.

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Originally Posted by Krazy Karen

You must have not bought the DLC.

Anyone who has driven that thing knows its NOTHING but bad within 15-25 sec....

Its not fun...

its not fun at all actually lol, there is honestly nothing good about it (I think it looks kinda cool actually, but that's all)

In a week when the DLC is old, you wont see one on the road....unless you like missing out on arkfalls or showing up late to things :p

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Yes I did buy the DLC or I wouldn't be talking about this. My friends and I drive around in the Raptor and laugh about it a lot more than we've laughed in the game. That's the kind of fun I mean. Why does it have to be that unless it's fast and deadly it's not fun? I know it's not the vehicle of Doom and that can be debated endlessly but I don't care.

I think it's the perspective on this. I don't have to be racing around in some speedy tank with 3 other people shooting up things--I've played games that have that and that gets boring. It would ruin arkfalls and yes, again I repeat it would make everyone lag out. That would be bad. If I get tired of playing with the Raptor, I have other vehicles and I can switch out and come back. Some people have gotten everything they can from the vendors and still just drive the med buggy--that's fun for them.

I don't have a problem getting to arkfalls and if I miss out on one because I'm playing around with the Raptor then so what. Another one will come along. I used it exclusively for 2 days after I got it--on the second day, I went to Dark Matter arfkalls-2 arkfalls and 2 orange weapons, as well as charge weapons and all that. I'm not missing out on anything.


Believe me I understand and do sympathize with people who want something faster and with a gun or the ability to shoot them. I just think people would really be angry if it had been a lot faster, had a turret, or could be shot from, and it was causing all kinds of lag--and Trion either did nothing about the lag or had to remove the turret, slow it down and remove the ability to shoot from it.

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Originally Posted by Indra Echo

Yes I did buy the DLC or I wouldn't be talking about this. My friends and I drive around in the Raptor and laugh about it a lot more than we've laughed in the game. That's the kind of fun I mean. Why does it have to be that unless it's fast and deadly it's not fun? I know it's not the vehicle of Doom and that can be debated endlessly but I don't care.

I think it's the perspective on this. I don't have to be racing around in some speedy tank with 3 other people shooting up things--I've played games that have that and that gets boring. It would ruin arkfalls and yes, again I repeat it would make everyone lag out. That would be bad. If I get tired of playing with the Raptor, I have other vehicles and I can switch out and come back. Some people have gotten everything they can from the vendors and still just drive the med buggy--that's fun for them.

I don't have a problem getting to arkfalls and if I miss out on one because I'm playing around with the Raptor then so what. Another one will come along.

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Actually, your right and those are very true points.

I still think it needs a BUFF in everyway, but I can see your point/side and see where your coming from :)

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Originally Posted by Krazy Karen

Actually, your right and those are very true points.

I still think it needs a BUFF in everyway, but I can see your point/side and see where your coming from :)

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Thanks for that, really. I'm not trying to be difficult but I think there are limitations we have to live with sometimes. I'd like it to be different but I know sometimes I can't get that, so I just want my money's worth and that means having fun with what we have until something else comes along.

I was someone who posted quite a few times before I knew they'd include the Raptor that I hoped the driver could run around with it shooting the turret like can be done in some other games-makes no real sense but it seemed like it would be fun. But even then some of us were thinking that would never happen since they'd be over-used for arkfalls. I want cake but I'll eat a donut instead.

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Originally Posted by Indra Echo

One person shooting from one turret won't cause that much lag, but if it had turrets everyone would use one at arkfalls and 50 or 60 people using the Raptor with turrets would cause lag. Please read for understanding instead of just being mad because it doesn't have a turret. Think about what you might do and then multiply it times 50 or 60.

Just like one person using a BMG is not so bad, but 20 causes incredible lag.

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What's the difference between 50people using AR, LMG and BMG, and 50 people using a car turret ? I'm no devs, so maybe there is a real difference, I'm just asking.

I've seen paint dry faster

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

A snail would be more useful.

The raptor needs 1 to drive, 3 to push. Handles worse than the diaper truck (titan) and has less health than the Nomad.

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Only the Nomad costs more than dlc anyway. lol

At least add a ammo box and an healing aura to raptor...

The Raptor looks cool but when you shut off it's holographic Raptor overlay it's actually a Yellow School bus.

Worst vehicle Ive used is the Challenger.

It sounds like it's straining and on its last breath
It feels slow even though the stats say its faster than some runners...
The other 2 seaters handle better (the Dunis)

The best vehicle(s) handling and speed-wise are the Runners.

But.... You know that eventually they will release armed vehicles, armored or shielded vehicles, etc.
They will probably also release bonus or perk boosting outfits.

Eventually...

I have a Nomad, and on straight level ground it is probably the slowest (exculding Raptor because I don't have one to test). Where the Nomad shines are hills, and ground clearance. I have no problem avoiding road blocks in the Nomad.

Also, the title of this thread really bugs me. I want to edit it.

You know I wouldn't be nearly as miffed about the raptor being garbage and turret less if they had changed the raptor so it at least didn't look like it was supposed to have a turret. Its silly of me certainly but seeing a raptor and seeing an empty turret mount just grinds my gears as does does standing in the turret seat and having a reticle for a turret with no turret. Those minors details just grate on me terribly lol. As for it being the worst runner in the game (stat wise at level 20 it is the worst roller in the game) just kind of annoying that they took the appeal from it and didn't modify it to give it a new appeal. I can accept slow its a big vehicle. But its damage and hp is worse than a skruggin duni. Lol really? But it is what it is and I don't see them changing it any so I imagine within a couple weeks when the Dlc talk has grown entirely stale we won't be hearing about our raptors nearly as much :)

Toss the turret back on this mofo and watch all this QQ dry up. It's a transport vehicle. You're not gonna' break any landspeed records with it.

The most slowest?

Sigh. The author in me just died a little.

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Originally Posted by Rasczak

The most slowest?

Sigh. The author in me just died a little.

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How about moar slowerer? :p

I don't see why it would ruin arkfalls or be used at them that much. If only the shooter is getting the credit, why would i want to chauffer your pristene little cotton tail around? Plus if the damage were adjusted correctly the first couple hits from anything big would take it out.

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Originally Posted by Vastier

So after seeing all the dlc buyers ride in the rapture (forgive me if i spell it wrong) with four people, i wanted it badly only to see it is slower then a snail. What do you guys feel about that the snail ?

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Talked to Trick - Raptor is actually the second fastest car in the game (at top speed) but definitely takes a lot more time to get up to speed. It's really big, too, which doesn't help that feeling.

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Talked to Trick - Raptor is actually the second fastest car in the game (at top speed) but definitely takes a lot more time to get up to speed. It's really big, too, which doesn't help that feeling.

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Maybe on a flat surface. But put even a slight incline and it barely makes it up hills even when boosting. That's a problem. Not to mention it handles worse than a challenger, and that's an accomplishment.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

Maybe on a flat surface. But put even a slight incline and it barely makes it up hills even when boosting. That's a problem. Not to mention it handles worse than a challenger, and that's an accomplishment.

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Don't think I drive on flat ground 97% of the time.....any car in this game NEEDS to climb hills at least half decent.....

You really cannot drive more than 2000 feet on the roads without something being in the way. That gives the Raptor about 4 seconds of its top speed.

Lame Raptor is Lame.


FROM HERE ON OUT, HE HAS TO DRIVE NOTHING BUT THAT POS RAPTOR ON LIVE STREAMS AND HE HAS TO DRIVE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES, MEANING, GET OFF THE PAVED ROADS AND EXPLORE YOUR WAY TO THE OBJECTIVE.

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

it handles worse than a challenger, and that's an accomplishment.

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Ouch. Dat shtako hurts!

I see it this way. The special vehicle you get by buying deluxe editions and season passes should make other players cry no fair. If people without them are not crying no fair then the people who got them got shafted.

Whatever it was, I like my Craptor. It reminds me of the good old days ...

http://lparchive.org/The-Fall-Last-D...012_214029.jpg

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Talked to Trick - Raptor is actually the second fastest car in the game (at top speed) but definitely takes a lot more time to get up to speed. It's really big, too, which doesn't help that feeling.

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The car is named - The Craptor - and we don't like it. Get it fixed.

Needs to be fastest car in the game (up hills as well), have guns, and be Cerberus class.

It's paid DLC. Total rip right now.

The Craptor is absolutely horrible.

Actually, let me say more. It is insulting. It's WAY more efficient to get 4 people on quads or in 2 Duni's.

It's slow, it's hard to manouver and it cannot climb any hills.

Fix it and give it that freaking turret we were promised.

Lets for the sake of argument agree that the reason it is slow is to alleviate the lag issues when 4 players are cruising along in it as some posters stated. Lets also agree it has no turrets for a similar reason.

There are many ways to improve the vehicle that doesn't muck up the servers for everyone around.

[1] If its slow like a tank, then add some beef to it to make it more tank like. It wouldn't hurt anything to increase it's hit points. As it stands the Dodge and Duni have more hit points.

[2] If the tech exists or is fairly easy to add, how about the vehicle's speed is determined by how many players are in it. If you are driving alone it goes faster, if it is bogged down with 4 players and all of their considerable gear then it moves slow like it does now.

[3] If it's never going to have a turret then how about you put an ammo crate in the back. This way you can keep with the wild west theme and folks can make a wagon circle to fend off the bad guys.

[4] Change it to Cerberus skill instead of Roller.

[5] When you honk your horn it activates all 3 passenger ejection seats ala super spy style sending all passengers hurtling 50 feet through the air.

[6] When using the boost ability, your passenger side pet Orangutan will make a Right Turn Clyde to the face of the raider standing next to the vehicle.

Thanks for reading.

Note: Some of the above suggestions may be facetious.

I'm still of the mindset that it shouldn't be the fastest vehicle, but the funnest. Adjust the the stats to make it move like a Runner(able to do 1080s), but maintain the HP and DMG of a Roller. You may as well give it the skill set of a Cerebus since it holds four people and there is no way outside of Co-Op to lvl that skill.


Raptor should be FUN TO DRIVE, NOT FUNNY TO DRIVE.

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Talked to Trick - Raptor is actually the second fastest car in the game (at top speed) but definitely takes a lot more time to get up to speed. It's really big, too, which doesn't help that feeling.

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a quick look at its stats in game tells you its the slowest roller at top speed without boost. With boost it's supposed to be doing 30 but I really don't think that's working as intended.

http://defiance.craftedcrows.com/wp-.../04/H-pink.jpg

this is the fastist and best one in game maybe if they painted the raptor with this paint it would improve how it drives and its speed and climbing by over 9000%

Well if they are going to do that, they may as well put a raindow unicorn tail on the back!

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Originally Posted by WARDUKE

Well if they are going to do that, they may as well put a raindow unicorn tail on the back!

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And a hot tub with a disco ball hanging over it.

I am all about number 5.

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Originally Posted by Cycloptomese

I am all about number 5.

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This is numbers 1 through 6 -

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/4355/w7af.jpg

Your wish is granted.

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Originally Posted by Cycloptomese

I am all about number 5.

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Number Five

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Talked to Trick - Raptor is actually the second fastest car in the game (at top speed) but definitely takes a lot more time to get up to speed. It's really big, too, which doesn't help that feeling.

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This is a troll right ?

I mean this tells us two things:

a) it's really hard for you to launch the game and check for yourself that the information you posted is incorrect
b) your GAME DESIGNER has no idea what he is talking about

Either way, this is VERY unprofessional for both of you.

Because like many people said, it IS the slowest roller in the game.