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  • 01-21-2013, 03:32 PM
    Myll_Erik
    NDA - Do not post video/content from Alpha
    Just a friendly reminder - do not post videos, images, stream, or any other content from our alpha. It is against the NDA that you agree to prior to joining us in testing. If you have any questions in regards to the NDA - please post them here.

    Beta NDA Lifts on March 22nd, 2013
  • 01-23-2013, 10:39 AM
    Dreadhly
    is it ok to make live streams on twich tv during the beta testing ?
  • 01-23-2013, 10:52 AM
    Laughter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dreadhly View Post
    is it ok to make live streams on twich tv during the beta testing ?

    As far as I know.. not as this time.
  • 01-24-2013, 05:52 AM
    GeneralZOCK
    no itīs not allowed to stream anything about alpha/Beta since itīs under NDA, only the Trion Broadcasts are allowed nothing else :P
  • 01-26-2013, 09:54 AM
    D351
    Are we allowed to talk about features in the beta?
  • 01-26-2013, 03:29 PM
    UberNinja
    Only business models and features revealed by Trion via their live streams. Any game play and content knowledge gained from alpha and beta, no.
  • 01-29-2013, 08:02 AM
    Qahlel
    1) When the NDA will be lifted?
    2) Can we take videos/screenshots during alpha/beta to publish them later when NDA is lifted?
  • 01-29-2013, 09:44 AM
    bobalobabingbong
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Qahlel View Post
    1) When the NDA will be lifted?
    2) Can we take videos/screenshots during alpha/beta to publish them later when NDA is lifted?

    No idea on number 1, but in the stream it was said you can indeed take videos and keep them private until the NDA is lifted.
  • 01-30-2013, 11:58 PM
    AggieKyle
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Qahlel View Post
    1) When the NDA will be lifted?
    2) Can we take videos/screenshots during alpha/beta to publish them later when NDA is lifted?

    1. I would say when you buy the retail version of the game and install/play it, although that's not really a lifting of the NDA, but a release of the actual game which has no NDA.
    2. I would say, "no".

    An NDA is foreva', there is no "lifting" of it. There's a reason game companies don't want Alpha or Beta info leaked. Just enjoy the experience of testing and quit plotting to violate your NDA :)
  • 02-01-2013, 11:08 AM
    bobalobabingbong
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AggieKyle View Post
    1. I would say when you buy the retail version of the game and install/play it, although that's not really a lifting of the NDA, but a release of the actual game which has no NDA.
    2. I would say, "no".

    An NDA is foreva', there is no "lifting" of it. There's a reason game companies don't want Alpha or Beta info leaked. Just enjoy the experience of testing and quit plotting to violate your NDA :)

    Not true. The NDA will likely be lifted when Open Beta hit. That's just a guess on when, but it will be lifted eventually.
  • 02-05-2013, 11:03 AM
    DFawkes
    Though I know it's probably a bug, but I wasn't shown any NDA when I signed up, just a generic TOS that didn't really cover the beta phase. Of course common sense dictates what you shouldn't post, and I know from the forums that there is an NDA, but I was never shown one during account creation. I know it was the same for a couple of my friends too. Not that ignorance is an excuse though, and I've found it now on the forum of course :)

    As I say, I'm sure common sense will cover most of it, but there are some things that differ from game to game, like some allow you to say you've played it, but not what it was like. Not that I'd have anything bad to say anyway.
  • 02-05-2013, 11:46 PM
    ITPalg
    What about sounds of the game?
  • 02-08-2013, 07:00 PM
    Goreshock
    As a rule of thumb NDA prohibits the PUBLISHING of any material related to the IP until said NDA is lifted.
    Once its lifted, you can create comparisons of old to new, show your characters to other people and anything related to the IP but profiting from it (cause Copyright).
    Source? I've been beta testing quite a few games in my time. (I'd be happy if a community manager would take their time to confirm or correct me.)
  • 02-09-2013, 12:29 PM
    hhkaal416
    Someone broke the NDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxrSsyCLqM
  • 02-09-2013, 04:28 PM
    Primus Palus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hhkaal416 View Post
    Someone broke the NDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaxrSsyCLqM

    There's a lot of that (NDA breaching) going on. Rather annoying. This forum has almost a full page of threads discussing bugs and such when they should be in the beta forums. :\
  • 02-10-2013, 09:45 AM
    thezombiecow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DFawkes View Post
    Though I know it's probably a bug, but I wasn't shown any NDA when I signed up, just a generic TOS that didn't really cover the beta phase. Of course common sense dictates what you shouldn't post, and I know from the forums that there is an NDA, but I was never shown one during account creation. I know it was the same for a couple of my friends too. Not that ignorance is an excuse though, and I've found it now on the forum of course :)

    As I say, I'm sure common sense will cover most of it, but there are some things that differ from game to game, like some allow you to say you've played it, but not what it was like. Not that I'd have anything bad to say anyway.

    I also don't remember noticing any, but also agree that it's prolly common sense. Is common sense legal binding? lol
  • 02-11-2013, 05:02 AM
    Escyos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thezombiecow View Post
    I also don't remember noticing any, but also agree that it's prolly common sense. Is common sense legal binding? lol

    Ignorance of law does not excuse someone of it.
  • 02-11-2013, 05:23 AM
    thezombiecow
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Escyos View Post
    Ignorance of law does not excuse someone of it.

    Twas but a joke........
  • 02-13-2013, 09:12 AM
    soulflymoon
    simple question... anyone nows why i buy the pre order game and i dont get the alpha beta
  • 02-13-2013, 09:28 AM
    Dead_Phoenix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by soulflymoon View Post
    simple question... anyone nows why i buy the pre order game and i dont get the alpha beta

    pre-order dont get you into alpha, only luck and being helpful does.

    next beta is not even announced yet so they wont be giving out the invites. you should of how ever been given a code to enter to your trion account?
  • 02-15-2013, 09:21 AM
    JustinD92
    Can anyone help me with this question. If I upload Beta/Alpha footage to youtube, but make the videos private until NDA is lifted ; Is this OK, or ?

    Sounds like a duh question but I just want to be positive and hold NDA respect.
  • 02-17-2013, 11:39 PM
    Midniteryu
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JustinD92 View Post
    Can anyone help me with this question. If I upload Beta/Alpha footage to youtube, but make the videos private until NDA is lifted ; Is this OK, or ?

    Sounds like a duh question but I just want to be positive and hold NDA respect.

    I would just stay on the safe side and not upload them until the NDA is lifted.
  • 02-18-2013, 04:47 PM
    Archangel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Midniteryu View Post
    I would just stay on the safe side and not upload them until the NDA is lifted.

    I would agree. better safe than sorry.
  • 02-19-2013, 03:05 PM
    Cylumne
    define complete and total irony and stupidity.....
    honestly i personally feel that trion has allowed far far to many dare i say idiots into the alpha/beta testing. personally what part of a non disclosure agreement do you people not understand non means no as in none zip zilch zero nothing meaning even the act of speaking about it violates it but honestly with the superfluous amount of persona non Grata, trion has negligently invited into its testing pool i honestly do not see how they can keep you from doing what you please aside from eliminating you from access to beta/alpha if you get caught leaking content.. they can then also can potentially slap you with a hefty law suit since you have violated aka breached/broken the agreement you have agreed to...end pint just because your told not to do something just simply do not do it i honestly cannot under stand the ignorance behind some of you people honestly it is appalling and you should not be allowed to reproduce for the betterment of the human species ...
  • 02-20-2013, 09:14 AM
    Archangel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cylumne View Post
    honestly i personally feel that trion has allowed far far to many dare i say idiots into the alpha/beta testing. personally what part of a non disclosure agreement do you people not understand non means no as in none zip zilch zero nothing meaning even the act of speaking about it violates it but honestly with the superfluous amount of persona non Grata, trion has negligently invited into its testing pool i honestly do not see how they can keep you from doing what you please aside from eliminating you from access to beta/alpha if you get caught leaking content.. they can then also can potentially slap you with a hefty law suit since you have violated aka breached/broken the agreement you have agreed to...end pint just because your told not to do something just simply do not do it i honestly cannot under stand the ignorance behind some of you people honestly it is appalling and you should not be allowed to reproduce for the betterment of the human species ...

    bit harsh there in the end but i would agree in that, you agree to not disclose, if you willingly break that agreement, you should be banned from playing. Of course, this is pretty hard to implement. So i would hope that with Trions kindness that we would show the same respect back to them.
  • 02-25-2013, 05:21 PM
    Desidus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    bit harsh there in the end but i would agree in that, you agree to not disclose, if you willingly break that agreement, you should be banned from playing. Of course, this is pretty hard to implement. So i would hope that with Trions kindness that we would show the same respect back to them.

    I wish people would, but I highly doubt it. There is always someone who has to be a *insert insulting word here*.
  • 02-26-2013, 08:33 AM
    Archangel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Desidus View Post
    I wish people would, but I highly doubt it. There is always someone who has to be a *insert insulting word here*.

    True. There seems to always be those type around no matter what. But i am thankful that the community has been great from what i have been seeing when it comes to respecting others. From the forum managers to the devs on stream and to those who frequent these forums.

    All kudos(^-^)b
  • 02-26-2013, 09:50 PM
    Desidus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    True. There seems to always be those type around no matter what. But i am thankful that the community has been great from what i have been seeing when it comes to respecting others. From the forum managers to the devs on stream and to those who frequent these forums.

    All kudos(^-^)b

    Yeah its been a pretty good community for sure... though they are starting to get a little ornery about certain issues as of late. lol.
  • 02-27-2013, 09:44 AM
    Keyholebud
    I accept.
    I accept the terms of the NDA.
  • 02-27-2013, 10:25 AM
    Archangel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Desidus View Post
    Yeah its been a pretty good community for sure... though they are starting to get a little ornery about certain issues as of late. lol.

    Yeah the console fans are getting restless. (^-^)b

    Thankfully the PC people have been diligantly testing the game working out bugs for all platforms so im not worried.
  • 02-28-2013, 12:19 PM
    Dirasyajx
    so what do you do if you find youtube videos of the alpha/beta? there a few out there
  • 02-28-2013, 12:54 PM
    Archangel
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dirasyajx View Post
    so what do you do if you find youtube videos of the alpha/beta? there a few out there

    Copy the link and pm a community manager with it saying you found something that might be in violation with the NDA.

    They can get that information in the hands of those who can do something about it.
  • 03-01-2013, 09:40 PM
    A s0t
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...g-**SPOILERS** this thread should be looked at
  • 03-02-2013, 02:29 AM
    Dead_Phoenix
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by A s0t View Post
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...g-**SPOILERS** this thread should be looked at

    all public info
  • 03-02-2013, 05:09 AM
    Desidus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dead_Phoenix View Post
    all public info

    nice was wondering about that thread...
  • 03-04-2013, 10:15 AM
    Archangel
    Wow Deadly, 57 codes! i better update.
  • 03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
    Cyrox
    what about that PCgamer magazine publishing review from defiance beta?
  • 03-11-2013, 01:44 AM
    Jaybonaut
    3 weeks to go; I hope I can give a 'first impressions' video for my subscribers.

    Channel: Energyone
  • 03-11-2013, 08:06 AM
    Archangel
    Will be nice to see what people have been holding onto do to the NDA. Once it does get lifted we should see a many of footage that is Defiance. I'l be looking forward to it.
  • 03-13-2013, 01:38 AM
    MadMike
    Or simply watch IGNs break of NDA...1 hour gameplay? Really?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pFTRgWhLcVs
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