Greg & Elizibeth just gave the most embarassing demo of all time at PAX

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Originally Posted by ten4

So did someone actually trip on the cord or was it sabotaged by a bitter customer?

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The cord to the power brick wasn't FULLY inserted.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

Well Billy, we're all aware of Murphy's Law: 'Anything that can go wrong will'. Are you aware of what Mrs. Murphy said? She said, "Murphy is an optomist".

Now here's Mac's Corollary to Murphy's Law: 'And it will go wrong in the worst possible way at the worst possible time.'

I survived six years in the Marines in the 60s AND 30 years in the Silicon Valley by expecting things to go wrong, planning what to do WHEN (not IF) things went wrong, and practicing the plan. Life isn't meant to be easy, it's meant to be challenging.

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I am not trying to be rude but if you survived 6 years in the marines in the 60s, i presume you was around 20 yrs old in the marines, so that would make you 73yrs is that true? if so, then fair play

something as simple as a laminated checklist with a permanent marker and some hand sanitizer. checklist of necessary functions to be completed, marker to check them off, hand sanitizer to clean it off and use again. 3 sections, before, during and after operation. some with entirely too much pride would see it as an insult. someone who trusts their equipment to work would do something like this to ensure that human error is eliminated as much as possible. i have fired countless numbers of rounds through weapon systems over the years, but i still use my cheat cards when it comes to checking to make sure my weapons and equipment work. the little things.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

Well Billy, we're all aware of Murphy's Law: 'Anything that can go wrong will'. Are you aware of what Mrs. Murphy said? She said, "Murphy is an optomist".

Now here's Mac's Corollary to Murphy's Law: 'And it will go wrong in the worst possible way at the worst possible time.'

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So what about this one? "Hindsight is 20/20."

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Originally Posted by Tekrunner

So what about this one? "Hindsight is 20/20."

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all of those cute sayings are based on the idgaf attitude, in my opinion. i am a hard presser for recognizing the mistake and immediately finding and implementing a solution.

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Originally Posted by Billy Guile

something as simple as a laminated checklist with a permanent marker and some hand sanitizer. checklist of necessary functions to be completed, marker to check them off, hand sanitizer to clean it off and use again. 3 sections, before, during and after operation. some with entirely too much pride would see it as an insult. someone who trusts their equipment to work would do something like this to ensure that human error is eliminated as much as possible. i have fired countless numbers of rounds through weapon systems over the years, but i still use my cheat cards when it comes to checking to make sure my weapons and equipment work. the little things.

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Does that checklist account for someone tripping over a cable when your not looking?
If it does, that's a pretty thorough checklist.

Anything can happen when we least expect.
And like an old saying : after the house is robbed, locks on the doors.

We are perfect, we don`t make mistakes...only the others makes mistakes, not us.

Meh... it was a Rift demo... makes no difference to me.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

The cord to the power brick wasn't FULLY inserted.

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Oh the innuendo that can be taken from that reply.

Well, w/e. Shtako happens.

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Originally Posted by JD nutz

I am not trying to be rude but if you survived 6 years in the marines in the 60s, i presume you was around 20 yrs old in the marines, so that would make you 73yrs is that true? if so, then fair play

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I joined at 17. I'm 70 just now.

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Originally Posted by hardy83

Does that checklist account for someone tripping over a cable when your not looking?
If it does, that's a pretty thorough checklist.

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If the checklist included taping the cable to the floor (and it should) then people wouldn't be tripping over it.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

I joined at 17. I'm 70 just now.

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Respect man, respect.
I hope i get to 70 with the same joy of playing that i have today.

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Originally Posted by drackiller

Respect man, respect.
I hope i get to 70 with the same joy of playing that i have today.

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I hope you do too! :) I just read a report this week, that the average life expectancy of a Dane born this year is 120! I can believe it too. So, we should all plan to live a long time. Ask yourself, what will I do NOW to prepare me for the next hundred years?

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

Here's a pro-tip I've learned from convention shows: TAPE the power cord to the floor so it isn't easy to dislodge AND assign someone to STAND beside the equipment to watch that it doesn't get tampered with, and three have a second PC up and running the game in the unlikely event that the first machine dies.

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Well, considering that there are the TWO of them here, not including their spouses who are off doing their own thing, they actually don't have anyone to "assign to stand there and watch things." I think you're overestimating how many people from Trion are at PAX (protip: the number is 2).

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

If the checklist included taping the cable to the floor (and it should) then people wouldn't be tripping over it.

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Based on the assumption that you know the layout of the floor where the livestream is being filmed and that they'll allow everyone taping down all the cables that are moving quickly in and out. Gotchya.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

If the checklist included taping the cable to the floor (and it should) then people wouldn't be tripping over it.

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Mac, some folks just can't break away from literal thinking ;)

hardy, why don't you Google what a Pathfinder does? since you want to introduce the argument of doing things in an unknown area of operation.

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Originally Posted by Codex

Well, considering that there are the TWO of them here, not including their spouses who are off doing their own thing, they actually don't have anyone to "assign to stand there and watch things." I think you're overestimating how many people from Trion are at PAX (protip: the number is 2).

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I don't know how many Trion people were at PAX this year. If the answer is only two, and both of them had to be on camera at the same time, that would seem to be an issue right there. You're assuming that no one from Trion COULD have been watching the PC. I'm assuming that someone SHOULD have been watching it.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

I don't know how many Trion people were at PAX this year. If the answer is only two, and both of them had to be on camera at the same time, that would seem to be an issue right there. You're assuming that no one from Trion COULD have been watching the PC. I'm assuming that someone SHOULD have been watching it.

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They have said that they were reducing their con budget to a minimal level. They even got flack for attending PAX at all, and had to justify themselves by saying that they were committing as little resources as possible (which is how we know that it was just the two of them). Sometimes what you should do and what you can afford to do are not the same thing. Again, hindsight and perfect scores...

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

I don't know how many Trion people were at PAX this year. If the answer is only two, and both of them had to be on camera at the same time, that would seem to be an issue right there. You're assuming that no one from Trion COULD have been watching the PC. I'm assuming that someone SHOULD have been watching it.

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I'm at PAX, sitting in my hotel room before attending day 4. I'm going to go take a video of the Twitch booth today to show folks the layout, since you're so interested.

I've also hung out with Elizabeth and Greg. There is only two.

Edit: soz, I misunderstood as I was trying to pack at the same time. I see your point, but at the same time I don't agree with it. It's their job to be on camera, and it's not the Twitch staff's job to watch their stuff. It's hectic as hell around the booth and as much as you don't like it, mistakes happen. COuld it have been better? Probably. Would it have? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

I hope you do too! :) I just read a report this week, that the average life expectancy of a Dane born this year is 120! I can believe it too. So, we should all plan to live a long time. Ask yourself, what will I do NOW to prepare me for the next hundred years?

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I think that keeping the mind open is a good way to walk that road.
And also not drinking as much beer like i do ;)

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

Here's a pro-tip I've learned from convention shows: TAPE the power cord to the floor so it isn't easy to dislodge AND assign someone to STAND beside the equipment to watch that it doesn't get tampered with, and three have a second PC up and running the game in the unlikely event that the first machine dies.

I think your story telling mode WAS quite good but it doesn't really save the day. When people tune in to SEE a demo, they expect to watch the new game play, not to hear about it. I saw in the chat someone say, it's like when Grandma told us stories. (I don't THINK he was equating YOU with his Grandmother, just that story time was an interesting fallback and reminded him of his childhood.

I thought the stage where the raiders ported to the Plane of Death and the Plane of Life and had to switch focus at just the right time was quite interesting.

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I agree with your con mentality but unfortunately we weren't in our own booth. There is a queue of folks for each slot and often you don't have any time to set up (in this instance the folks before us went until our time slot so we couldn't even plug in until we were supposed to be on air.) there isn't time to tape nor are we allowed by Twitch - it's not our stage - we are presenters and adhere to their rules. So that comes with having to fit in their space and work when times shift and contract but comes with the bonus of reaching a whole new bunch of people. I can tell you that I have feedback for how it can be better next time. Everyone is aiming to improve!

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Originally Posted by dahanese

I agree with your con mentality but unfortunately we weren't in our own booth. There is a queue of folks for each slot and often you don't have any time to set up (in this instance the folks before us went until our time slot so we couldn't even plug in until we were supposed to be on air.) there isn't time to tape nor are we allowed by Twitch - it's not our stage - we are presenters and adhere to their rules. So that comes with having to fit in their space and work when times shift and contract but comes with the bonus of reaching a whole new bunch of people. I can tell you that I have feedback for how it can be better next time. Everyone is aiming to improve!

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did other groups have issues with Twitch's set up? if they have a fair business model, it would be in their best interests to listen to those who use their space.

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Originally Posted by Billy Guile

did other groups have issues with Twitch's set up? if they have a fair business model, it would be in their best interests to listen to those who use their space.

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Not sure as I didn't watch the whole stream. Friday we were bumped back because one group had tech issues and went on 25 minutes late. I was upset because it shortened our time slot and we weren't on when we should have been but at the same time, this is a live show and sometimes that happens.

sounds like what we deal with whenever we have to share a rifle range or training area with another unit that doesn't have their collective heads, screwed on straight. keep up the effort. btw, Gregg's beard was glorious and you're looking great considering the amount of hours you put in work wise. i'll end the rear kissing here.

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Originally Posted by Billy Guile

sounds like what we deal with whenever we have to share a rifle range or training area with another unit that doesn't have their collective heads, screwed on straight. keep up the effort. btw, Gregg's beard was glorious and you're looking great considering the amount of hours you put in work wise. i'll end the rear kissing here.

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Hah. Under eye makeup covers up almost everything.

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Originally Posted by Billy Guile

sounds like what we deal with whenever we have to share a rifle range or training area with another unit that doesn't have their collective heads, screwed on straight. keep up the effort. btw, Gregg's beard was glorious and you're looking great considering the amount of hours you put in work wise. i'll end the rear kissing here.

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Hah. Under eye makeup covers up almost everything.

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Hah. Under eye makeup covers up almost everything.

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So, THAT's why Greg looks so well rested... ;)

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

I joined at 17. I'm 70 just now.

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Mate if you ever need support on how to turn your PC on I'm here for you.

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Originally Posted by Cavadus

Who cares? Is any sane person going to be watching twitch and think themselves, "Herp-derp, dat game must sukk kuz teh powerz on teh laptop went out!"

And it's RIFT so, again, why do any of us care? I don't play games like RIFT.

There are a lot of people on these forums who just need to step away from the computer and re-evaluate their priorities and stop wasting their time.

This thread is not only pointless in a general context but completely unrelated to Defiance.

Who. Gives. A. ****.

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Trion Worlds does, that's who.

See, don't spread this around, but just because you don't play games like Rift . . . well . . . it's Trion's flagship title. Not only that, it has more players than Defiance. Not only that, but from Trion's own words: those players, many of whom came in to try the game with the F2P launch, have become subscribers for recurring monthly revenue, and are spending in the cash shop (and Rift actually has a cash shop worth spending money in).

Meaning, Trion is far more concerned with Rift than Defiance. Simple business. It's also why Rift has the A-Team for Development.

But you asked: and it's RIFT so, again, why do any of us care? I don't play games like RIFT.

Well, besides Trion caring, I care. I play Rift. So that answers your bold. I can also point you to several Defiance forum members who also play Rift. So, you meant: why do I care? I don't play Rift.

why was the laptop not fully charged beforehand?

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Originally Posted by A s0t

why was the laptop not fully charged beforehand?

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It probably was but it's an Alienware and they suck up a LOT of power. It could only run for a few minutes on battery (which it did).

My alienware laptop runs for over hour unplugged while gaming.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

It probably was but it's an Alienware and they suck up a LOT of power. It could only run for a few minutes on battery (which it did).

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Never understood the point of a laptop that can't even last a few hours. lol
Those powerful laptops need to come with bigger batteries or something. :P

I have an Alienware, and there are two modes (graphic switching) you can use. One is High Performance GPU and Power-saving Performance GPU. With the HP GPU, I last about an hour before it dies. This is the mode where you can play your games. With the PSP GPU, I can last about 4 hours. This mode won't let you play game (really bad graphics) but I can go on the internet, word docs, etc.

The reason I got a laptop is that I can move it anywhere I want in the house, travel with it for work, etc. and still have a gaming rig. Sure I can get a more powerful and cheaper desktop, but it's not mobile. I travel a lot for work so this is great for me. It also helps that I convinced worked to pay for it for me.

In the end, when I'm gaming, I keep it plugged in. At a hotel, I can either work or do some light gaming. It's really heavy for traveling, but meh. Some sacrifices to be made. :)

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

It probably was but it's an Alienware and they suck up a LOT of power. It could only run for a few minutes on battery (which it did).

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Yeah, it was an Alienware. I think if you don't have it to anything it lasts about 45 minutes these days. So about 45 seconds if you are playing a game. ;-)

That being said, Greg could have gone to double check even when the sound booth guy said we were plugged in. Probably would have noticed that while the plug was in the computer, the brick was loose (and would have saved the day!)

lol, its kinda funny, but not embarrassing at all!

Im sure all of us have unplugged something or made a mistake before in life!!!

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Originally Posted by dahanese

Yeah, it was an Alienware. I think if you don't have it to anything it lasts about 45 minutes these days. So about 45 seconds if you are playing a game. ;-)

That being said, Greg could have gone to double check even when the sound booth guy said we were plugged in. Probably would have noticed that while the plug was in the computer, the brick was loose (and would have saved the day!)

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Coming up on Friday's Livestream:

Trion Worlds has come to terms on the release of OverloadUT. Trion wishes him all the best in all his future endeavors.

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Originally Posted by SymbolicGamer

Coming up on Friday's Livestream:

Trion Worlds has come to terms on the release of OverloadUT. Trion wishes him all the best in all his future endeavors.

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THAT rumor isn't funny.

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Originally Posted by MacDeath

THAT rumor isn't funny.

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Worry not. Elizabeth would fall on the charged blade before she'd let Greg do so.

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Originally Posted by SymbolicGamer

Coming up on Friday's Livestream:

Trion Worlds has come to terms on the release of OverloadUT. Trion wishes him all the best in all his future endeavors.

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I would hate to hear that this actually happened. I think he's got a great sense of humor.