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  • 09-01-2013, 03:52 PM
    Zabuza
    Is this game really going to go pay to play?
    I heard somewhere it might be $5/mo. If this is true, how do I get a refund, the only reason I bought the game was the free to play status.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:12 PM
    Krauser
    How's that going to work on consoles?
  • 09-01-2013, 04:14 PM
    Epshiluss
    I spent £35 under the assumption that it was for at least %50 of the final product (when nothing will be added anymore to the game)
  • 09-01-2013, 04:16 PM
    Henyachingywhy
    Yeah if this game ever went pay to play I'd want my money back.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:18 PM
    JaygunJesile
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Krauser View Post
    How's that going to work on consoles?

    Easy, can't log into the game or access your character unless you pay your undue balance on trion website. All character data is saved on their servers.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:29 PM
    Krauser
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JaygunJesile View Post
    Easy, can't log into the game or access your character unless you pay your undue balance on trion website. All character data is saved on their servers.

    I figured you'd have to buy it like boosts, X number of bits for 24 hours of play time.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:30 PM
    Pyth
    You heard right friend. In an attempt to bring back their player base they're going to start paying us a nominal hourly fee to play this game again.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:32 PM
    ten4
    Where are these rumors coming from? If anything, I would not put it beyond them to come up with a 'premium' service that costs a monthly fee which is something seen in most over seas F2P games. Trion is obviously in major debt so they will be looking for ways to gouge more money out of the few players left.

    Defiance Premium: increase of loots, exp, and preferred login rights!

    Defiance no premium: no loot, a dribble of exp, and have to wait in a que (that they made up).
  • 09-01-2013, 04:35 PM
    dahanese
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    I heard somewhere it might be $5/mo. If this is true, how do I get a refund, the only reason I bought the game was the free to play status.

    That is not true.
  • 09-01-2013, 04:37 PM
    ComplexZeru
    so it is false.... thanks for clearing that up
  • 09-01-2013, 04:46 PM
    crazyskillz
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dahanese View Post
    That is not true.

    this rumour has been around since the first PAX live stream , seen it a few times banded about , good to hear some clarification on it's authenticity thank you dahanese for ( how ever short lol ) the response
  • 09-01-2013, 05:07 PM
    August Barkley
    Show me those Sun Of a Beach who invented this piece of gossip!!
  • 09-01-2013, 08:58 PM
    Ssdmiddleman
    I would be completely done if this game went P2P
  • 09-02-2013, 01:38 AM
    MacDeath
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ComplexZeru View Post
    so it is false.... thanks for clearing that up

    I suspect she meant to say that it isn't true at the current time. I would certainly agree that this version of Defiance can't thrive on a P2P model. The game COULD change of course and then, the business model might be adjusted.
  • 09-02-2013, 03:10 AM
    Clarity Page
    I don't believe these rumours are true but in case anyone at trion reads this and get any ideas,
    I brought this game New + a season pass that is a lot of money that I don't and can't usually spend on gaming, it was a one off.
    i don't mind paying for a season pass for season 2 providing we got some fun content but a monthly fee would price me out of the game and quite frankly the game doesn't offer enough content to warrant a subscription fee.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:06 AM
    drackiller
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    You heard right friend. In an attempt to bring back their player base they're going to start paying us a nominal hourly fee to play this game again.

    That`s the spirit ;) The day they start charging to play, well...i have other games. I`ll just stop playing this as much as i like it.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:09 AM
    Sanguinesun
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dahanese View Post
    That is not true.


    It -was- $5 bucks one time price and discussed as being so a while back on EA's Origin for that price. However it was a limited time deal that has already expired. This may be where the confusion was. Kotaku even wrote about it:

    http://kotaku.com/moneysaver-guardia...bla-1183159646
  • 09-02-2013, 05:24 AM
    Covington
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pyth View Post
    You heard right friend. In an attempt to bring back their player base they're going to start paying us a nominal hourly fee to play this game again.

    LOL!

    Sadly we will all loose connection and not get paid. :p
  • 09-02-2013, 05:25 AM
    ten4
    Not sure if that is the whole answer.

    I mean pay per month is clearly out, no one is going to pay that since this game aint worth it.

    But a prem service akin to F2P games where non payers get no drops/miniscule exp and payers get normal drop rates/exp? Already like that with boosts so why not go that extra mile to gouge further?

    I can totally see this happening at some point.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:28 AM
    drackiller
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ten4 View Post
    Not sure if that is the whole answer.

    I mean pay per month is clearly out, no one is going to pay that since this game aint worth it.

    But a prem service akin to F2P games where non payers get no drops/miniscule exp and payers get normal drop rates/exp? Already like that with boosts so why not go that extra mile to gouge?

    I can totally see this happening at some point.

    What drops !? If i have to pay to keep not getting good loot, then for sure i`ll not pay...lol
  • 09-02-2013, 05:30 AM
    ten4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drackiller View Post
    What drops !? If i have to pay to keep not getting good loot, then for sure i`ll not pay...lol

    What drops? Like right now were I fill 211 inventory in 20 mins (or less) with these weekend buffs yet unbuffed it takes 6-8 hours at the same place? CS loot buff = pay to get loot. If you don't have em, you get next to no drops at all. This is what I mean.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:35 AM
    drackiller
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ten4 View Post
    What drops? Like right now were I fill 211 inventory in 20 mins (or less) with these weekend buffs yet unbuffed it takes 6-8 hours at the same place? CS loot buff = pay to get loot. If you don't have em, you get next to no drops at all. This is what I mean.

    When i mean loot, i mean good loot.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:37 AM
    N3gativeCr33p
    If this game went P2P, I would stop playing it. Immediately.
  • 09-02-2013, 05:38 AM
    ten4
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by drackiller View Post
    When i mean loot, i mean good loot.

    Sell whites/greens to vendor for script or break em for salvage = buy keycodes to purchase lockboxes.

    Those trash items leads to good loot even if they aren't themselves.
  • 09-02-2013, 08:46 AM
    Alastar
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ten4 View Post
    Sell whites/greens to vendor for script or break em for salvage = buy keycodes to purchase lockboxes.

    Those trash items leads to good loot even if they aren't themselves.

    MAY lead to good loot. 99% of the time this is false. ;)
  • 09-02-2013, 08:50 AM
    Indra Echo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    I heard somewhere it might be $5/mo. If this is true, how do I get a refund, the only reason I bought the game was the free to play status.

    Please cite the source. Rumors spread like wildfire here, so just saying "I heard somewhere" could be "my brother's wife's second cousin said it could happen". You heard it somewhere so where was that?

    I think I'll start a thread called "I heard somewhere that cats can fly". But it's more than likely that's in a work of fiction.
  • 09-02-2013, 09:25 AM
    Sanguinesun
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Indra Echo View Post
    Please cite the source. Rumors spread like wildfire here, so just saying "I heard somewhere" could be "my brother's wife's second cousin said it could happen". You heard it somewhere so where was that?

    I think I'll start a thread called "I heard somewhere that cats can fly". But it's more than likely that's in a work of fiction.


    Someone didnt read page 2 of the thread. :rolleyes:
  • 09-02-2013, 09:29 AM
    Indra Echo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sanguinesun View Post
    Someone didnt read page 2 of the thread. :rolleyes:

    How about I go through all your posts and state the things you didn't read before commenting which are many. You dislike me and so you constantly need to try and prove your superiority.

    I was referring to the OP and it is perfectly valid to ask the OP to actually edit their beginning post for this thread to cite the source rather than go to page 2 to find something about it. There's an edit button for a reason.
  • 09-02-2013, 09:30 AM
    PseudoCool
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Indra Echo View Post
    Please cite the source. Rumors spread like wildfire here, so just saying "I heard somewhere" could be "my brother's wife's second cousin said it could happen". You heard it somewhere so where was that?

    I think I'll start a thread called "I heard somewhere that cats can fly". But it's more than likely that's in a work of fiction.

    Obviously people are just going to speculate and run rampant with rumors and not actually READ a thread. The community manager has already said, on page 2 of this very thread, that the P2P model is NOT TRUE.

    Go read it and stop speculating on some rumor that probably come from some overly possessive xbox fanboi in the first place!
  • 09-02-2013, 09:34 AM
    Indra Echo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PseudoCool View Post
    Obviously people are just going to speculate and run rampant with rumors and not actually READ a thread. The community manager has already said, on page 2 of this very thread, that the P2P model is NOT TRUE.

    Go read it and stop speculating on some rumor that probably come from some overly possessive xbox fanboi in the first place!

    I wasn't speculating on some rumor. The OP was. The responsibility is in the hands of someone stating rumor as some sort of fact.

    I assume you think I'm an overly possessive xbox fanboi--whatever the heck that means. That too is a work of fiction and amazingly unimaginative.

    Obviously people need to stop speculating on every old rumor that is out there and consider it may well just be nonsensical rumor. The OP should have amended this thread to say the rumor was false. And those who apply cynicism and hatred to disagreement over a video game should seek help.


    Oh and by the way, the Community Manager stated that at the bottom of page 1 and not on page 2. Just for clarity's sake.

    And people above my post were still responding to the OP as if it was true.
  • 09-02-2013, 09:37 AM
    Dave Blackwell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Indra Echo View Post
    I wasn't speculating on some rumor. The OP was. The responsibility is in the hands of someone stating rumor as some sort of fact.

    I assume you think I'm an overly possessive xbox fanboi--whatever the heck that means. That too is a work of fiction and amazingly unimaginative.

    Obviously people need to stop speculating on every old rumor that is out there and consider it may well just be nonsensical rumor. The OP should have amended this thread to say the rumor was false. And those who apply cynicism and hatred to disagreement over a video game should seek help.

    The threads topic is 'Is this game going P2P' more or less. Dahanese had posted on the first or second page (I can't be bothered checking, but it was one of the two). The rumour has been proven to be entirely false. Why kick up a fuss over something that doesn't matter? The OP was asking if the rumour was true or not.
  • 09-02-2013, 09:41 AM
    FrostEffect
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dahanese View Post
    That is not true.

    So then lock the thread since this question stops appearing on the front page with people blowing it up like its important when its actually not... this thread shouldn't have made it past the 2nd page if you summed it up on the 1st page. .-.
  • 09-02-2013, 10:47 AM
    WARDUKE
    You'd have to be insanely slow in the head to believe a B2P game would go P2P after six months and an 85% drop in price.

    F2P, yeah probably. P2P, not even on if it solved world peace..

    and yeah, thread should have been locked when official response was posted.
  • 09-02-2013, 11:01 AM
    SSlarg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dahanese View Post
    That is not true.




    rumor quashed. stop necroing this thread.
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