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  • 09-05-2013, 04:51 PM
    Arsenic_Touch
    Patch notes 1.102 for those that haven't seen them yet.
    DEFIANCE 1.102

    *Thorn Liro Vendor prices reduced from insultingly exorbitant to merely pricey.
    *Fixed a crash related to clans
    *Fixed crash that could occur in competitive multiplayer when gathering statistics at the end of matches.
    *More stabilization and server lag fixes

    So now the 500k scrip, 1000 rep orange charge blade is 15k scrip, 750 rep.
    This is one hell of a slap to the face to those of us that actually earned our legendary charge blade.

    Oh, just saw they posted them. Weren't up when I was on earlier.


    They're going to give players tier 4 lockboxes for buying the mod hordes, but what about those of us that actually spent the scrip on the orange charge blade?

    That 500k actually made it a "exclusive" item for people that actually worked towards it and then you do this to us? why the hell do you keep catering to the lowest common denominator? you add something that you have to work for and then you slash it to pieces or remove it all together.
  • 09-05-2013, 04:54 PM
    Notturno
    It's almost comical how much the price was slashed. I'm so glad I did not purchase that blade, but I feel bad for those that did. It seems like they had second thoughts about making that a scrip sink.

    People really should be reimbursed for the scrip cost of that blade, that's just an absurd price change.
  • 09-05-2013, 04:59 PM
    Iceberg
    So is this going to be known as ScripGate?
  • 09-05-2013, 05:01 PM
    Arsenic_Touch
    Definite reimbursement is in order. That was such a waste of scrip now that they reduced is so much.

    Can barely keep scrip now with the current prices of things and then they pretty much just kicked me in the ganchi.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:11 PM
    August Barkley
    This is ridiculous!

    -@sspalm-
  • 09-05-2013, 05:31 PM
    Henyachingywhy
    So how much will the other 2 blades be worth now?

    Blue- 5,000 scrip?
    purple 10,000 scrip?
  • 09-05-2013, 05:33 PM
    Midori Oku
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Henyachingywhy View Post
    So how much will the other 2 blades be worth now?

    Blue- 5,000 scrip?
    purple 10,000 scrip?

    Yup, and it's just as bad for the people who bought them. Well, mostly for the purple one, but still.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:35 PM
    Nexus Ayres
    scrip reimburse please
    Please reimburse the scrip I spent on a blade buying items out of this vendor to get the pursuit completed since you realized the amount you were charging was absurd. I buckled down and saved and sold weapons I otherwise would not have to come up with the scrip to find out a week later that I could have saved if I had just waited for someone to get their head out of their *****... Glad they are more reasonable, mad I got screwed once again.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:36 PM
    A s0t
    why no stickies on the patch notes and we are up to 1.028 why they reset that
  • 09-05-2013, 05:39 PM
    thefndodge
    wow. oh wow oh wow.

    Well said, good sir or madam!

    /NoInfraction
  • 09-05-2013, 05:44 PM
    geuinejamie
    who do we contact to voice our complaints to? there has got to be some one who will listen
  • 09-05-2013, 05:44 PM
    Error404
    You're telling me I worked my *** off selling my hard earned weapons for scrip so that I could waste 485k?!

    WHAT THE ****.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:47 PM
    A s0t
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Error404 View Post
    You're telling me I worked my *** off selling my hard earned weapons for scrip so that I could waste 485k?!

    WHAT THE ****.

    sutro farming is not working your butt off
  • 09-05-2013, 05:48 PM
    Error404
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by A s0t View Post
    sutro farming is not working your butt off

    A time investment is an investment all the same. Besides, Sutro farming is boring.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:49 PM
    JxSiN
    What little motivation I had to play today has now been killed. There goes 485k down the drain.
  • 09-05-2013, 05:51 PM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Yeah, that sounds pretty insulting to me... and I've never purchased one.

    #boycott
  • 09-05-2013, 06:00 PM
    UnchartedDestiny
    I bought that Orange blade because I barely get Orange anything in the game.. And this is why Trion is.. you know what.. its not worth the finger typing to say what Trion is. I'll say.. IT'S NO WONDER PEOPLE QUIT PLAYING THIS GAME. Poor decision making and untalented Devs. 11/15 can not come any quicker folks, cuz who will be gone from this game forever? This guy!!!! Wish I could get all the money back I've spent on this game "supporting" Trion. But never again will I support any thing that has Trions name printed on it.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:01 PM
    Valentine
    Well at least it's not ridonkulously priced, I do feel bad for those who bought it though.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:02 PM
    ironcladtrash
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    Definite reimbursement is in order. That was such a waste of scrip now that they reduced is so much.

    Can barely keep scrip now with the current prices of things and then they pretty much just kicked me in the ganchi.

    They're giving everyone who bought a mod hoard box a T4 box so hopefully they can give scrip back. I really do like this change though, and I only had 300k or I would have been in the same boat.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:02 PM
    UnchartedDestiny
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    What little motivation I had to play today has now been killed. There goes 485k down the drain.

    Bro.. I turned the game on.. check my trade thread quick. Thought I'd check the general discussion thread.. read this.. ejected the game as shook my head. I have no motivation to play this game ever again.

    #worstfranchiseingaminghistory
  • 09-05-2013, 06:06 PM
    UnchartedDestiny
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ironcladtrash View Post
    They're giving everyone who bought a mod hoard box a T4 box so hopefully they can give scrip back. I really do like this change though, and I only had 300k or I would have been in the same boat.

    I bought a hoard mod box.. I haven't received a T4 box???? Wow.. no wonder they can't keep devs at Trion. I wouldn't even hire anyone who got booted from there if I were "successful" gameing franchise. I wouldn't want inexperienced Devs working for me.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:09 PM
    Hiero Glyph
    This reminds me of the ninja update when car prices became inflated. Trion honestly has no clue how to manage an economy for an MMO, that much is blatantly obvious at this point.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:26 PM
    Nefarious
    I have to agree. The price slash is BULL ****. Nothing is scared in Defiance. Even something as little as this.

    There is not much separating players as is. I liked the idea of jacking prices up for the most sought mods and these newly unique weapons. And the Thorn Lero weapons being as high priced as they were made something special that was universal to show off.

    Im happy that I didn't spend 500k..not like it would of mattered since I would still be left with 500k lol. But in a way at the same time The Legendry Blade is not going to be anything special since everyone is now going to be able to have one. The price of which it had, 500k is something that seemed reserved for prominent players. The ones who play daily to gain 500k scrip to spend on a sword.

    It is a slap in the face to the players who already bought them, and changes where done so just to please the whiners who barely play just so they can buy the blade and never use it...

    Thumbs down on this one Trion. I rather spend 500k on the sword then it get reduced in price. But I guess this is smart business. No one could afford the in game swords which means no one is buying Bit-Store Sword Mods.
  • 09-05-2013, 06:56 PM
    JxSiN
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by UnchartedDestiny View Post
    Bro.. I turned the game on.. check my trade thread quick. Thought I'd check the general discussion thread.. read this.. ejected the game as shook my head. I have no motivation to play this game ever again.

    #worstfranchiseingaminghistory

    That's like me. I turned the game on as I was reading through the threads. I came to this and switched over to Netflix (which is just background noise for me right now.)
  • 09-05-2013, 06:58 PM
    A s0t
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JxSiN View Post
    That's like me. I turned the game on as I was reading through the threads. I came to this and switched over to Netflix (which is just background noise for me right now.)

    cool im not the only one that does this
  • 09-05-2013, 07:15 PM
    Nefarious
    Where is the official thread stating this info? I can find it anywhere and I don't see anything about it in the community blog.
  • 09-05-2013, 07:20 PM
    A s0t
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Where is the official thread stating this info? I can find it anywhere and I don't see anything about it in the community blog.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...=1#post1251961
  • 09-05-2013, 07:27 PM
    Hiero Glyph
    What's funny is that the forum rule changes make a lot more sense when information like this is provided suddenly with no mention of compensation for players, yet those that purchased mod hoards are getting tier 4's. Trion has things so backwards I think we should start calling them Noirt.
  • 09-05-2013, 07:28 PM
    Umfafa
    Yeah....I'll take the scrip and rep refund for that 100,000 purple blade I purchased a few days ago.

    You can have the purple blade back.

    Not sure why I'm surprised, but I find it extremely unlikely they would screw up every single thing they touch. Yet, here it is again.
  • 09-05-2013, 07:44 PM
    cusman
    Today's Server Update from TRION did the following for Thorn Liro Store

    The Orange blade is now 750 Rep and 15,000 script instead of 1000 Rep and 500,000 script. Other weapons are similarly reduced in Script / Rep cost.

    The Titles now cost less script as well, but now cost a ton TON more Rep. The one that used to cost 250 Rep now costs 1000 Rep, and the rest are similarly jacked up.

    My thought is TRION realized when people get that Orange sword (like I did), they buy BITS to buy color mods for that sword and the Script price was a barrier to more people spending money buying the cosmetic sword color thing.

    I have no idea why they jacked up the title purchase costs. I had only one left which I could have picked up for 200 Rep yesterday, but today and onwards it will cost 750 Rep.

    I am also a little peeved about 500,000 script cost I paid for the orange sword < 2 weeks back and now they just charging 15k. Good change, but maybe they need to return some of my script they charged.

    I really dislike TRION. I don't see myself ever getting any other TRION game again.

    F... it I am out of here.
  • 09-05-2013, 07:50 PM
    Hiero Glyph
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cusman View Post
    I really dislike TRION. I don't see myself ever getting any other TRION game again.

    Agreed, and to make matters worse the price changes were not released prior to the patch. This reminds me of the vehicle price changes as those were ninja'd as well, despite Sledge's claims that Trion never does ninja updates.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:03 PM
    Atticus Batman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Umfafa View Post
    Yeah....I'll take the scrip and rep refund for that 100,000 purple blade I purchased a few days ago.

    You can have the purple blade back.

    Not sure why I'm surprised, but I find it extremely unlikely they would screw up every single thing they touch. Yet, here it is again.

    Good luck I have gotten told by several of their help that rep refunds are impossible. Hopefully they do somehow compensate the ones who spent the time and script to get those blades though.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:05 PM
    Dar Katan
    Holy over reaction batman.

    I am sure that a small percentage of the total population is going to be miffed at this change while the rest—myself included—am very pleased they made those weapons within reach. I would not doubt that the Devs looks at the purchase logs and saw that a very small amount of total players were buying these weapons compared to other rep. vendors, so they made them attainable.

    This is a good thing for the game as a whole, in two weeks you'll have something else to worry about. Perhaps maybe take a step back from the game for a while if a change like this affects your lives so much. There are bigger issues in our lives that need attention.

    See you in game!
  • 09-05-2013, 08:10 PM
    MagellanD
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dar Katan View Post
    Holy over reaction batman.

    I am sure that a small percentage of the total population is going to be miffed at this change while the rest—myself included—am very pleased they made those weapons within reach. I would not doubt that the Devs looks at the purchase logs and saw that a very small amount of total players were buying these weapons compared to other rep. vendors, so they made them attainable.

    This is a good thing for the game as a whole, in two weeks you'll have something else to worry about. Perhaps maybe take a step back from the game for a while if a change like this affects your lives so much. There are bigger issues in our lives that need attention.

    See you in game!

    http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/...2b6ce4f03f.gif

    Really? These people grinded for rep and huge scrip price. It's not just the price its the time put into the game to earn something that is a symbol of how much they dedicate. Kind of like the Black Challenger.

    It's not the money it's the principle of it.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:11 PM
    Bonehead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    DEFIANCE 1.102

    *Thorn Liro Vendor prices reduced from insultingly exorbitant to merely pricey.
    *Fixed a crash related to clans
    *Fixed crash that could occur in competitive multiplayer when gathering statistics at the end of matches.
    *More stabilization and server lag fixes

    So now the 500k scrip, 1000 rep orange charge blade is 15k scrip, 750 rep.
    This is one hell of a slap to the face to those of us that actually earned our legendary charge blade.

    Oh, just saw they posted them. Weren't up when I was on earlier.


    They're going to give players tier 4 lockboxes for buying the mod hordes, but what about those of us that actually spent the scrip on the orange charge blade?

    That 500k actually made it a "exclusive" item for people that actually worked towards it and then you do this to us? why the hell do you keep catering to the lowest common denominator? you add something that you have to work for and then you slash it to pieces or remove it all together.

    I feel you man. Just when you think you have something dialed in or a part of the game that works for you someone "fixes" it.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:20 PM
    Dar Katan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MagellanD View Post
    http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/...2b6ce4f03f.gif

    Really? These people grinded for rep and huge scrip price. It's not just the price its the time put into the game to earn something that is a symbol of how much they dedicate. Kind of like the Black Challenger.

    It's not the money it's the principle of it.

    Please do not assume that I did not grind for it as well. I had been grinding since the DLC launch to get one of those OJ swords and the Purple Bolter.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:23 PM
    MagellanD
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dar Katan View Post
    Please do not assume that I did not grind for it as well. I had been grinding since the DLC launch to get one of those OJ swords and the Purple Bolter.

    well then you have the patience of a saint.
    I do believe these trion paying customers have right to gripe at the shtako.

    You're very right in two weeks they'll have something else to complain about because trion grinds their gears quite frequently.

    Again though I commend you on your patience.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:36 PM
    Dar Katan
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MagellanD View Post
    well then you have the patience of a saint.
    I do believe these trion paying customers have right to gripe at the shtako.

    You're very right in two weeks they'll have something else to complain about because trion grinds their gears quite frequently.

    Again though I commend you on your patience.

    This game definitely needs help and Trion's CEO has admitted as much. I have noticed that since the relocation and consolidation of the teams has made the development of Defiance faster. I am sure everyone at Trion knows they have a window of opportunity that is closing. With the recent wanting of feedback for the UI and the developer explanations of grenades and the like I think they are starting to be more proactive.

    I will admit that Defiance will have my interest until Destiny is released. It is up the the development of Defiance if they keep my interest past that.
  • 09-05-2013, 08:44 PM
    JPlay
    They make this game now for rookies not vets like me
  • 09-05-2013, 08:46 PM
    Chump Norris
    Add new blades and remove the old ones from the store but allow them to sell back at full price. Then people can chose to sell their blade or keep it and have an item that is truly rare.
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