And the winner of the cross over to the show is....

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Originally Posted by Rumeyes

Where we clearly disagree is your belief that a player who tops nr.1 should be chosen, even though rules clearly state it can be any of the top 5. Maybe the nr.1 was ugly as hell (although Irathien makeup solves a lot), maybe the nr.1 did not fit the demography of what they are looking for as a person, maybe the nr.1 did not fit the character profile they prepared in advance.

I can think of so many reasons to pick or not pick a nr. 1, but I find your argument "Community clearly picked nr.1, so it has to be nr.1" far from sound. I feel we might have to agree to disagree on that point.

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My point is not that the most votes should have won, first and second were about 300 votes separate, 3rd was another 200 ish votes. This is a contest that is giving the implication that the community gets to make the majority of the choices, to interact with the show, but when the back stories are not random or player written all the community involvement is marginalized. It gives the impression that the contest was fixed to some degree. Was it? We will never know. But with how Trion and Syfy have been handling things so far I would say it is more likely to be a fix and it is not unreasonable to think that. Which by its self is a really bad thing to say, that people can reasonably agree that this could have been fixed.

Am I accusing anyone of a fix? No, I am just saying how this is being handled it has a smell.

No one has yet to see a post by the winner anywhere. No mention on the Friday live stream or anything about it. You would think with something like this you would make it big, an event, a celebration that the community gets a direct tie in to the TV show.

Just sayin.

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Originally Posted by Escyos

If information in those interviews does not appear to add anything to the canon of Defiance. That is the consequence I was talking about.

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A lot of the stuff with Tony Vhalen, and Matt Mower the lore designer, and a writer respectively is very relevant to the lore. Depending on your perspective. Trick also has gone into lore being as he is the creative lead. I have stated i will let the listener decide the relevance. If there is nothing of consequence available for you that's fine, maybe our next interview will be of more interest to you.

Redo the math hindsight shoulda been on the show because he's like = that much better. Yeah I said it...

Congratulations Alethia.
I hope there are going to be more game to show players i have been real busy trying to loosing weight for the show. I would love to be on there and I love the game and the show. I have lost 75 pounds already and will keep walking 3miles a day till I get to my ideal weight or till I do good anough to be picked. :)

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Originally Posted by Gidian

Congratulations Alethia.
I hope there are going to be more game to show players i have been real busy trying to loosing weight for the show. I would love to be on there and I love the game and the show. I have lost 75 pounds already and will keep walking 3miles a day till I get to my ideal weight or till I do good anough to be picked. :)

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....the person's character is going to be on the show, not them.

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Originally Posted by Dracian

And not only to US residents, too... I'm pretty sure some people even in Canada would have been glad to participate.

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I have to wander about this popularity contest these people are talking about. If they could make it so you could actually talk to other people on your headset, I might actually know what is going on half the time. I'm thinking these people don't want you to talk to the Canadians. I am Canadian and yes I would like to be more involved. I've been playing from the beginning, Moya and I have never been able to talk to each other or anyone else. What can I say I'm pretty good at killing but it doesn't make me popular. ....is it because I'm Canadian.....mmmm, Or just because I'm forced to fight alone.

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Originally Posted by Escyos

...Defiance Wiki is ... not affiliated with Trion or Syfy and so ... the same rules... may include...them.

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No offense but um, irony is a *****.

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Originally Posted by TigrisMorte

No offense but um, irony is a *****.

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Nice, Shakespeare, indeed

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Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch

....the person's character is going to be on the show, not them.

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Oh wait, I was mistaken then. So only a character name gets chosen with a specific backstory that gets written into the show? Well that shouldn't be too hard for the writers to implement, no matter what direction you pitch.

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Originally Posted by Beck

This is a contest that is giving the implication that the community gets to make the majority of the choices, to interact with the show, but when the back stories are not random or player written all the community involvement is marginalized.

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I understand your point now. If the backstory already was fixed the only addendum this contest makes is the reference of a player nametag in the show. I stand corrected, this change should greatly diminish the value of the contest indeed.

Even if the backstory would not have been fixed by the writers of the show and this together with a player nametag would have been introduced, I would not find this very impressive. In a main storyarc you can build actions of a side-plot with whatever backstory that sideline character has.

I see cross content as decisions happening in the show that effect the game and vice versa. Everything I've seen up untill now did not strike me with awe. This contest included. You build a show, you make a game, you gather $$$. They are more standalone then you'd hope them to be.

I haven't seen story influence capabilities built in the game which effects the show. But if you don't even have the possibility to let player actions influence the storyline of the game (because there just isn't that in Defiance), how will you make that work from game to show? Easy answer: You don't. Let us see what is promised:

"Experience dynamic missions, massive co-op battles, and endless exploration across a gigantic game environment. Plus, brought to you by Syfy, the Defiance TV series is a revolutionary weekly drama that impacts the game, and gives you the chance to change the show."

1. Dynamic missions = Episode quests - check.
2. Drama impacts game = Plague event - check.
3. Change the show = this contest - check.

If you expect more then above mentioned, looking at the trackrecord you are just being incredibly silly (although I do hope that Trion/Syfy actually do this and then it will ROCK!). Looks like they are too busy keeping Defiance rolling, on the different platforms and on-screen.

I wouldn't expect anything innovative on the cross content. Every box is checked. If they give us a 3rd DLC with a quest including 2 min of cutscenes and 5 datarecorders they are well covered.

The contest's details and stages were for the most part simply an illusion. The audience was given the impression that x was random, y was the audiences choice etc etc. But really all there were was false shuffles, a switch or two, and the results were as expected and intended by magician.

Penn and Teller could do it better at least with false reveals and some fake dismemberment or injury to boot.