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  • 12-10-2013, 12:27 PM
    Clarity Page
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by samuelsinn View Post
    1 hour 19 mins down 2 hours 41mins remaning o.o HURRY UP HURRY HURRY HURRY AND GO LIVE I WANTS IT I NEEDS IT MY PRECIOUS >.>

    I've got 28 mins left unless the update is split into separate parts, i think they will turn everything back on sooner than the 4 hours I imagine that its just a precaution incase its more work than expected
  • 12-10-2013, 12:28 PM
    samuelsinn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JonnyFlash View Post
    okay, well, overstated, haven't logged in since October, and I'm making my assumptions based on patch notes.

    the patch notice is a live much like the cake <.< the cake yes it is a lie a bad bad lie >.> mmmm cake ....
  • 12-10-2013, 12:29 PM
    samuelsinn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Clarity Page View Post
    I've got 28 mins left unless the update is split into separate parts

    ur in EU im in US o.o mine literly started at the time stated 10 AM PST o.o so i got some time to wait but also im on PC
    so i have to wait till the maintnace is fully over and then i can buy and update
  • 12-10-2013, 12:31 PM
    Clarity Page
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by samuelsinn View Post
    the patch notice is a live much like the cake <.< the cake yes it is a lie a bad bad lie >.> mmmm cake ....

    Yea it wierd the patch notes used to tell you what the update you are downloading contains but now it only tells you the last, i kinda liked scrolling through the huge changes list during a long update
  • 12-10-2013, 12:31 PM
    Mr DirtStar
    PVP is going to most likey be ruined, sad face :/
  • 12-10-2013, 12:32 PM
    Etaew
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by samuelsinn View Post
    the patch notice is a live much like the cake <.< the cake yes it is a lie a bad bad lie >.> mmmm cake ....

    True, never trust the patch notes in the launcher. They tend to be the last thing to be updated, after we've poked Trion with a stick.
  • 12-10-2013, 12:38 PM
    samuelsinn
    hay watch where your poking with that stick x.O dont need any one eyed arkhunters runing around now. do we ?
  • 12-10-2013, 01:10 PM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Etaew View Post
    They tend to be the last thing to be updated, after we've poked Trion with a stick.

    From the looks of it, that looks like it could be fun... ;)

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm...nwiro1_500.gif
  • 12-10-2013, 01:12 PM
    samuelsinn
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    From the looks of it, that looks like it could be fun... ;)

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm...nwiro1_500.gif

    heh hehe hehe hehehe lol lmfao rotflmfao
  • 12-10-2013, 01:12 PM
    GridSufer
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N3gativeCr33p View Post
    From the looks of it, that looks like it could be fun... ;)

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm...nwiro1_500.gif


    It's The Doctor!
    *swoons*
  • 12-10-2013, 01:13 PM
    Arran
    So me & 3 others finally finished patching. Dashboarded signed bk in to see new patch notes just to find out we need install the whole dam game & patches all over again!
  • 12-10-2013, 01:16 PM
    samuelsinn
    1 hour 44 mins remaning for me befor i can even patch i think . o.o the DLC hasent even appeared on steam yet. so :: crosses fingers :: hope its soon
  • 12-10-2013, 01:20 PM
    GridSufer
    I hope it's soon too, while I wait I'll have to play something's different...
  • 12-10-2013, 01:26 PM
    Sdric
    Meanwhile I'm playing Crashfield 4
  • 12-10-2013, 01:31 PM
    krondin
    I know they are working on the chat system, but i wonder why they don't Copy/Paste < lol > the chat system from their other game, Rift. Chat works wonderful there! So what if we have a global chat available to us < if they used the one from rift >, why have they been so afraid of us talking to each other all the time in game! Its not like they are reinventing the wheel ....

    We'll see what they come up with next, ...... Eventually..........
  • 12-10-2013, 01:36 PM
    Sdric
    They wanted us to use Voip in the first place, that's why its ingame.
    However the quality is so incredibly poor that you barely understand people with top notch microphones.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:38 PM
    GridSufer
    I think it's nice they tried to make a new chat system, something a little bit different and cool and not so mainstream..
    It shows evidence of trying to make the game better, and more effort, blood sweat and tears...
    However the blood sweat and tears are still coming out today as we all try to say hello, stop shooting me, I'm not a mutant noob, and no I won't cyber with you, I only have a female avatar so I can stare at her arse rather than a mans.

    However we can't say those things as the emotes are restricted and most people ignore them... :(
  • 12-10-2013, 01:38 PM
    Etaew
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by krondin View Post
    I know they are working on the chat system, but i wonder why they don't Copy/Paste < lol > the chat system from their other game, Rift.

    This comment appears a lot and I really want to highlight it and point out that copy and paste will never work in any game. Copy paste modify, perhaps but still a LOT of work. Not only are there multiple inputs, different channels and different platforms. There are also things like voice elements being tied into the chat. As much as I make negative comments about the low priority for the chat system fix, if it was easily fixed they would have done it.

    Edit: Let's also not forget about different codebases and resources for each engine.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:38 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by krondin View Post
    I know they are working on the chat system, but i wonder why they don't Copy/Paste < lol > the chat system from their other game, Rift. Chat works wonderful there! So what if we have a global chat available to us < if they used the one from rift >, why have they been so afraid of us talking to each other all the time in game! Its not like they are reinventing the wheel ....

    We'll see what they come up with next, ...... Eventually..........

    Rift has a game engine they spent years writing specifically for that game.

    DEFI uses the years old HAVOK game engine.

    It'd be like bolting a VW Bug drivers door on an Oldsmobile.
    You could do it with a welder and a big enuff hammer, but it aint gonna be pretty, and it aint gonna work so good.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:42 PM
    Bonehead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crasher View Post
    Rift has a game engine they spent years writing specifically for that game.

    DEFI uses the years old HAVOK game engine.

    It'd be like bolting a VW Bug drivers door on an Oldsmobile.
    You could do it with a welder and a big enuff hammer, but it aint gonna be pretty, and it aint gonna work so good.

    Best you can hope for is, with enough duct tape, It'll keep the weather out but you better not want to use it as a door.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:43 PM
    ArkHunter Z
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by crasher View Post
    Rift has a game engine they spent years writing specifically for that game.

    DEFI uses the years old HAVOK game engine.

    It'd be like bolting a VW Bug drivers door on an Oldsmobile.
    You could do it with a welder and a big enuff hammer, but it aint gonna be pretty, and it aint gonna work so good.

    LMAO...Nice
  • 12-10-2013, 01:44 PM
    Zugo
    Looking forward to everything except grenade-gate. Time to fire up the ole-360.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:44 PM
    Tekrunner
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr DirtStar View Post
    PVP is going to most likey be ruined, sad face :/

    Why do you think that exactly?
    Also, isn't it already already ruined?
  • 12-10-2013, 01:49 PM
    GridSufer
    PvP is an odd subject in this game...
    The game is in a setting where PvP would either be 'group up or die' (so Open PvP on most of the map.)
    As it is now, it's a nice little game mode to participate in when you want something a little different to the mobs AI but is not a main aspect if the game and is very much a mode to keep the PvPers happy...
  • 12-10-2013, 01:52 PM
    Etaew
    The PvP / PvE arguements reminds me of Warhammer Online, a game with both elements and one of them dying. (Well okay the entire game is dead now but still).
  • 12-10-2013, 01:53 PM
    blotto33
    New patch notes are viewable when patching. good sign. i was able to install entire patch. good sign. But servers are still down.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:58 PM
    R69L
    I just turned on the game and now I have to re-install the game itself. What the heck. How do you guys let these kind of bugs pass testing...

    Edit. It does seems to make it look like it is delted but is take about 1min to redo but the patch does have re-install.
  • 12-10-2013, 01:58 PM
    lastkatstanding
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blotto33 View Post
    New patch notes are viewable when patching. good sign. i was able to install entire patch. good sign. But servers are still down.

    We installed the new patch, and it ended up uninstalling our game from the system for some reason...
  • 12-10-2013, 02:09 PM
    samuelsinn
    51 mins remaning

    edit :: and nothing up on steam yet ....
  • 12-10-2013, 02:13 PM
    Whippersnapper
    Im patching now. Sadly it will take over 1hr 30mins @ my current speed of 1.5 Mbps :(

    Read the patch notes and am curious about some things.

    -Patch notes seem to say there are different spikes (rarities) for calling down arks. Can someone elaborate?
    -What high tech pillars?
    -Stims?
    -Daily/weekly log-in rewards? See they just don't explain this stuff sufficiently
  • 12-10-2013, 02:14 PM
    Etaew
    I've done my best to illustrate things with: http://www.defiancedata.com/page.php?id=127

    But honestly that page got out of hand as there is so much stuff.
  • 12-10-2013, 02:15 PM
    Foszmar
    Instead of adding new dlc's and ruining grenades they could repair annoying cursor bug and "revolting hellbugs" arkfall bug when main boss is floating in air... -.-
  • 12-10-2013, 02:15 PM
    Tekrunner
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by GridSufer View Post
    PvP is an odd subject in this game...
    The game is in a setting where PvP would either be 'group up or die' (so Open PvP on most of the map.)
    As it is now, it's a nice little game mode to participate in when you want something a little different to the mobs AI but is not a main aspect if the game and is very much a mode to keep the PvPers happy...

    PvP wouldn't even need that many fixes to be fairly well balanced. Some adjustments to the movement accuracy of surge bolters and to the way cloak works, making Thick Skinned work on the shot that takes out your shield... things would then be considerably better.

    But given how few people play PvP these days, I can understand that Trion is prioritizing PvE. PvP needs a community to really thrive, but by now the majority of the most motivated PvPers are long gone... We'll see if the changes to matchmaking help. I don't play PvP very much anymore, but I'd still like to have played Military Academy more than just once :/
  • 12-10-2013, 02:17 PM
    ItISLupus
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lastkatstanding View Post
    We installed the new patch, and it ended up uninstalling our game from the system for some reason...

    I posted this in another thread, but thought it'd be better put here.

    The DLC, along with the previous one, made some changes to the core game files. This created the "corrupt" patch file you see in your storage. Deleting this file causes the game to create a new launcher file with the updated information. This will most likely happen with the other three DLC's.

    I installed my disk to the HDD so It only took about 5 minutes to recreate the file and go back to patching. Just some food for thought.
  • 12-10-2013, 02:17 PM
    Etaew
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blotto33 View Post
    New patch notes are viewable when patching. good sign.

    Wow, I'm totally impressed :)
  • 12-10-2013, 02:19 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Foszmar View Post
    Instead of adding new dlc's and ruining grenades they could repair annoying cursor bug and "revolting hellbugs" arkfall bug when main boss is floating in air... -.-

    Both of which are 'undocumented added content'.

    Gift horse -> Mouth: don't look there.

    Can't we all just get along?
  • 12-10-2013, 02:19 PM
    alienstookmybeer
    Downtime extended 4 hours.

    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...=1#post1342337
  • 12-10-2013, 02:20 PM
    Holy Bahamut3
    http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...-All-Platforms

    4 more hours.... Really?
  • 12-10-2013, 02:21 PM
    blotto33
    No defiance till 9pm eastern, gamebreaker dlc in full effect
  • 12-10-2013, 02:22 PM
    GridSufer
    The only times I see PvP communities survive is when there are 'clan war' settings available, giving clan/guild/faction leaders the ability to declare and accept war invites on/from other clans so that PvP can take place anywhere any when and the leaders get together to organise bigger events (such as full scale wars, skirmishes etc.) normally these communities also set their own rules too to remove the use of OP or broken game elements...

    Very rarely are such things taken into account in MMO's now though...
    I miss UO....
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