people that do not buy the dlc's...

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12-19-2013, 01:24 PM
xilfxlegion

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Originally Posted by jackdaws_1999

Im afraid I disagree with this idea as well, but for differing reasons. Both me and my fiancee have the season pass, before anyone complains lol

I believe that the arkbreaks should have reserved places for dlc owners, if there are not enough people in that instance (24 max) the spare places should be meeted out to the non-dlc people. I also think anyone in a group with dlc owners should be treated as though they had the dlc for as long as they are in the group.

I also feel that people who invest an ark battery should be guaranteed a place in the first instance of the arkbreak, followed by dlcers, followed by those who turned up first etc.

Since they spawn multiple instances if there are more than 24 at the arkbreak, they should also allow non dlcers to make up the numbers there as well. However I feel that instead of a long waiting screen for those waiting to enter, it should be like all other co-op and shadow war waiting lists, you apply, go about your business, and when an instance has been filled, they are told to ready up and join.

^^^^
a thousand times this!
12-19-2013, 01:26 PM
Mike Chone

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Originally Posted by Littleweasel

its worthless to me anyways because i would never pay $10 for toon outfit.

Again, what value is in being granted the ability to pay for something for everyone? I can't see any to be truthful and objective.

However getting free batteries, there is your value. Giving DLC owners the ability to call arkfalls for free, while requiring non-dlc owners to pay script, that is indeed value in the form of a huge time-saver.
12-19-2013, 01:30 PM
SSlarg

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Originally Posted by Mike Chone

Again, what value is in being granted the ability to pay for something for everyone? I can't see any to be truthful and objective.

However getting free batteries, there is your value. Giving DLC owners the ability to call arkfalls for free, while requiring non-dlc owners to pay script, that is indeed value in the form of a huge time-saver.

ONE Battery a day is NOT worth the price of the Pass (at release)
it's nice and welcome, but one a day when I am TRYING to do as many a day as I can
(using approximately 10-12 batteries a day) is but a drop in a very large bucket.

In Fact I used one this morning to summon a Major
went inside (can you guess what happened?) I got DC or disco'd
happens all the time so there goes all those free batteries lol.
12-19-2013, 01:32 PM
Littleweasel

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Originally Posted by SSlarg

I did. I should be flogged.

then burned and my ashes spread to the four corners lol.

in my own defence, I had the bits leftover
from the purple mod boxes and they were sitting there
doing nothing. I ended up buying the drifter outfit.
I do like the outfit (recolor of harmony preacher)
but yeah it was NOT worth ten bucks.

im not trying to put down people that have bought outfits for their toon, hopefully i didn't come off that way?

im only saying i would never buy a outfit for my toon because i am happy with the one i earned within the game for completing pursuits.
12-19-2013, 01:33 PM
Bentu

I placed one of the 4 spikes required at a major yesterday and couldn't get in. Something needs to be done.
12-19-2013, 01:33 PM
SSlarg

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Originally Posted by Littleweasel

im not trying to put down people that have bought outfits for their toon, hopefully i didn't come off that way?

im only saying i would never buy a outfit for my toon because i am happy with the one i earned within the game for completing pursuits.

oh no I didn't get offended at you, rather I am offended
that I paid 10 bucks for a recolored outfit. lol.
12-19-2013, 01:34 PM
Deunan

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Originally Posted by bigguy

i agree there are way too many selfish people entering these that run down and break the locks as fast as they can when there are only 5 people in the room instead of waiting for the rest of the group to get ready , this is supposed to be a group effort and those selfish people basically make it impossible to win when there are so many people who are dcd trying to get in , and then you cant communicate with them and they are wondering why im meleing them in the face trying to get them to stop

What makes you assume that the people don't have the DLC? The demographic that are completely clueless or don't care about protocol for taking the Warmaster down is not exclusively composed of non-DLC holders and the demographic that can competently participate and contribute in taking him down aren't exclusively composed of DLC holders either. You're only shooting yourself in the foot by advocating this kind of short sighted change.

The game suffers from lack of popularity and a constantly waning player population. While the population cyclically upticks around DLC releases and occasional special events, returning players are already jaded and easily lose interest leaving the game soon after. Some were so upset with the grenade changes they are already gone again. When the player population wanes again and you can't get a decent sized team together that's capable of taking the Warmaster down because there aren't enough DLC2 owners around you're going to end up regretting the change (assuming you don't become one of the players that leaves the game as well).
12-19-2013, 01:34 PM
Shadow Andreas

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Originally Posted by Mike Chone

Again, what value is in being granted the ability to pay for something for everyone? I can't see any to be truthful and objective.

However getting free batteries, there is your value. Giving DLC owners the ability to call arkfalls for free, while requiring non-dlc owners to pay script, that is indeed value in the form of a huge time-saver.

The only way that I can see for them to make it "fair" for the people that place the batteries is to make everyone that did not place the batteries pay scrip to enter the ship. That way everyone has to pay in some form to get to the WM.....I'm sure that most will hate this....but it's just me throwing out ideas (good and bad).
12-19-2013, 01:35 PM
Heartlight

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Originally Posted by Mike Chone

Giving DLC owners the ability to call arkfalls for free, while requiring non-dlc owners to pay script, that is indeed value in the form of a huge time-saver.

I think this is a fantastic idea. I always thought it was pretty unfair that the people who paid for the dlc also are the ones responsible for the 10,000 when anyone can take advantage of it.

I know there's some collaboration in clans, non-dlc'ers giving scrip to the dlc'ers, but this solution would bring a great deal of value to the dlc, I'm thinking.

But, remember, I actually don't have the dlc. I just feel it's been unfair to you guys.
12-19-2013, 01:38 PM
Littleweasel

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Originally Posted by Mike Chone

Again, what value is in being granted the ability to pay for something for everyone? I can't see any to be truthful and objective.

However getting free batteries, there is your value. Giving DLC owners the ability to call arkfalls for free, while requiring non-dlc owners to pay script, that is indeed value in the form of a huge time-saver.

getting free batteries hardly justifies the price of the dlc and non dlc buyer are not suppose to be able to buy the batteries or call down the arkfalls so basically they just leach off the people that can and do call them down.

as i have said before i don't care that they can battle outside the called down arkfall i just do not think they should be allowed to enter the interior of the arkfall since basically that's what the people that bought the dlc were suppose to be paying for, the ability to call down arkfalls and to go into the interior of the arkfalls that were called down.

this dlc is not worth the price you pay for it if you can get most of the benifits of it without paying for it.

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