We should start new chars and see how much we can do with just starter kit... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by inox2980
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We should start new chars and see how much we can do with just starter kit... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by inox2980
The Surge Bolter isn't the only weapon that can OHK in PvP. With the removal of damage reduction perk effect stacking it could be any of several sniper rifles or sawed offs depending on their rarity and bonus stats and the perk load out the player is using.
Intriguing idea - maybe I'll start a PC-EU character..Quote:
Originally Posted by GridSufer
Geez, you guys have an interesting idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by inox2980
Are we talking about scrapping/selling EVERYthing besides starter and maybe quest rewards?
No quest rewards means survivalist is the only one with a sniper rifle, machinist is the only one with an LMG, etc, right?
Would mods be allowed?
I'm starting as a Veteran with that stock AR. Only Tier 1 mods are allowed! Use the base (starter) weapons indefinitely.Quote:
Originally Posted by crasher
Ok, since sending tickets does not resolve much, I am still wondering if Shadow War is being abused by cheaters or are players really that amazingly good?
There are cases of players I confronted, but they took it easy and explained me and showed me tricks in detail, and I have kept watching them and sure, they were playing normal as intended but incredibly good.
However, then there is the other bunch I simply can't explain. I have my nice long range rifle, sitting cloaked, nice and far, probably about 400 in-game "yards". I see a guy jumping nonstop, I follow him, fire a shot, hit, he dives immediately (not even knowing where the shot came from as I hit his back) as he dives, a split second, I am headshotted by that exact same person, before I can even fire my second shot, having cover and distance... ok, can happen once. Wait, once ? No, it happens all the time !!!!! Can someone please show me a tutorial video or something how I can be so good, because those players NEVER answer me when I ask how the heck they did that and if they can give me advice ?
Next. Guy runs away from me as I am cloaked running after him. I unleash my surprise attack, then, while turning, I am headshotted. Again, a turn, shot direct hit in the head. The whole time.
Then, I am once again hunting, and people jump, fire, headshot, does not matter where I am, what I do. It is always, jump, insta-headshot. Distance does not matter.
I want to know from other players if possible, how can I be so good or is there hacking going on. I just need to know, I am asking, not accusing, so any input would be nice.
huh. why was my thread moved from general in here? I did not accuse anyone of cheating yet, I am just curious and I think in the general section more people would see my question and have an answer... why was my thread moved here???
There are players that are that good. I don't PvP but I have watched streams and videos of some really talented PvP players and some of them can get the reticle on the head with amazing speed and accuracy which probably makes players believe they are using aimbots (but they're not).Quote:
Originally Posted by Varathius
Draw distance is hard capped at 100 meters in this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varathius
Hitting a player from behind is a popular and effective strategy in the game for sniper rifles and saw-off shotguns, especially if you're using the Sucker Punch perk. Many players will instinctively check their twelve if they're hit and survive. If you were using your Sniper Rifle and didn't get a OHK on them it's also probable that they are relying on the Rear Guard perk to survive, so the fact that they are alive is also going to instinctively make them assume that they were hit from behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varathius
It's simply player skill. Some players have twitch reflexes and exceptional hand eye coordination honed by years upon years of logging lots of hours playing shooter games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varathius
Take a look at this player's video taken from a Shadow War on the PC-NA server. I could never hope to have the skill and talent he displays as he constantly moves and quickly acquires targets with his Tachmag and headshots with his VBI Sniper (often OHKing players with his Sniper Rifle) and there are no hacks involved.
OP, have you considered that this is a BUG?
What benefit is there to kicking people out of an instance with a 'hack' anyways?
I am more inclined to believe that the people in question were the only ones in the que and moment the instance server bugged out, kicking your friends; then those dudes were put into your co-op.
I can't for the life of me think why anyone would do that/actually make a hack for this purpose. Most FPS hacks are ESPs, god mode cheat trainer type programs, hex edits, aimbots, etc...not this.
This, most likely, is a bug in a game that is chalked full of them. Just add one more to the list!
The OP did say that this happened 8 times in a row. To paraphrase the saying from my workcenter in the Navy, "once is an anomaly, twice is a pattern, three times is a trend..."Quote:
Originally Posted by ten4
When we get the group back together tomorrow, I'm going to try taking those screenshots while windowed. I tried fraps yesterday, and oddly enough while we were using it for 2 games straight, we had not a single problem. No one crashed. No one got booted. Of course this was just 2 times but for the past few days this has been the only times we have ever been plague free by one of the 4 jumping into the coop or some misc bug. The thing about fraps though, the videos it takes are huge. One mission was 6GB and honestly I can't record all of my sessions. I've been thinking about livestreaming and tagging the clips that have these cheats going on.
The sad part is, as low as the population is now, we have lost 2 players because of this. I literally had one player approach me today and said, "when the hacking is sorted out, let me know, until then, I'll be on....". The other was so annoyed she posted here (romper) and said too she wouldn't be back until the hacking is sorted.
I'm not entirely sure how widespread this is. It could be we are being targeted, but I have no clue why because most of our players are average shooters, nothing exceptional about us. This leads me to believe that other players could be plagued with this and may likely be leaving as well.
We already know the damage hacking is still alive and well in PVP. I had a friend that frapsed his last shadow war where he put 3 bolt action rounds in a guys head and never got hit markers. I wrote this off as basically pvp is just a lost cause. But now the hackers are seemingly wreaking havoc in pve which means there is no where in this game to escape to for a fair and level playing field.
If I were a hacker, the benefit would be guaranteeing that you are put in a pre-made instead of a pug which would mean your chances for completing the mission, faster, would be increased exponentially.Quote:
Originally Posted by ten4
The hack is out there. There is an all-in-one hack for Defiance right now that can be googled fairly easily which provides a "go to anyone" ability that they advertise will replace existing group members in instances. Trion should investigate this and stop it. It seems if this simple act of going to whom ever they want is the doorway which means closing it should at least stop it for now -- I just hope the solution isn't taking away the ability to go to your friends.
The first few days, I indeed thought it was a bug. After its happened now counting today and the rest of yesterday, some 14 times, always being patroned by the same (well its now) 4 people has made me reconsider the coincidences.
If this happened 3 times I would be ok that is within the realm of a bug and highly coincidental but still plausible that it is a bug. 14 times by the same 4 people, it is no longer plausible and I highly challenge if it is at all possible without cheats.
Precisely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graefton
It happened to our group today - all clan members. One of our players was kicked out and immediately replaced by another player. When we tried to kick the new player from the group, only his name was removed from the listing but his character remained for the duration of the coop. He was of a very high ego. I am on PS3 NA.
No one on PS3 is hacking the game to do this - this is a random thing - the player who got booted just got booted as is common on PS3 - another player who was queing for the Co-Op replaced him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treasurekins
Yeah, it's nigh impossible to hack a PS3 online game. But not completely impossible. Plus, the client parses files when you launch it, so any mods that you managed to get installed will probably be deleted by the system as being an anomaly.
Funny u say this since I was wondering what was going on. This happened to me 2 x's last night during the Motherlode, and I know it happened to 2 others that were in our group. I was playing and all of a sudden I was at the Crater, I signed back in and ran all the way to th group, and bam it happened again. I got back in just before the Boss battle and one of our group[leader] was gone and someone else was in his/her place. The new person had more than 2 x's the score than everyone else, and no one knew him. When we got back to the world our leader was there[Crater just by chance] and asked if anyone else was bumped, in all 3 of us had been bumped during the mission. And then our group was disbanded by someone else while we were all standing there talking about it. I wish we could name names but it is not my deal to do that, but I did write down the names that I got last night and will do as I did in SW, and tell my group and just quit the match. Pity, I was having a good night and would have had a great score if I didn't have to start over 2 x's. And no, no one knew the person, but he did keep taunting the people in our group and group members don't do that in my groups, ours help each other out.
sigh :: im going to clearify something about defiance. something that no one bothers to look up or look into or even for that matter bothers to understand that
I like so many others out there in this world that BOTHERED to look into such things. KNOWS that. sadly
defiance can not be hacked PROPERLY
defiance has all of the things that could of been modded or hacked or broken by hackers on server side of the client. nothing of the games propertys is player side or client side. the game is vurtualy inposabul to hack due to this system set up .
anyone that is found useing a therd party tool such as CE or any other binary or hex tool that brakes down the system and sends packits into it . are more offten then not ban from the game or given a saver worning. most of the time ban.
as for hacking on consol. agine this is vurtualy inposabull becuse any mods that you add would enebitaly be deleted due to the detection program and the fact that you have to run an update EVERY time you log into the game witch checks the game files that are allready in your system for any abnormalitys and replaces them with the correct file or just tells you it found an error and dosent let you on till said error is fixed.
so in summary.
defiance can not be hacked .
That is right folks! When Sam here says it is imposubull, he means it is imposubull!
Grin I love it!
Not true. I happen to personally know someone who got into the files and changed a single shot weapon into a full auto weapon. If that isn't hacking, I don't know what is.Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
ya ya knock on my hung over bad typeing and spelling errors you try typeing when it feels like an army of Dark matter are marching though your head with an obalisk right behind themQuote:
Originally Posted by Amack
and ill wager that shrotly there after thay got into it eather thay got an infraction message in there Email or where perma ban from the servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by plebeian27
if there still runing around there not going to for long.
They've been playing for months now with the hack; no lapses in play, no unexplained absences, no nothing. They consistently score highest in seiges, arks, and the like with no problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
Sam, I am sorry but you used that excuse for 2 days now... you can't be hungover every day, can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
Well actually lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Amack
Let me help you out here.....There we go. All fixed!Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
*I'm, *clarify, *properties, *virtually, *impossible, *using, *third, *breaks {I know, a tough one, as technically you had "a" correct spelling}, *packets, *often, *than {again, easy mistake to make}, *severe, *warning, *console, *again, *virtually {again}, *impossible {this time you misspelled your own misspelling!}, *because, *inevitably, *which {different from the creepy next door lady!} *already, *abnormalities, *doesn't, *til.
Please don't use a hang-over as an excuse. Every post you've done has deplorable spelling. Just trying to help you out here. Help you see the mistakes that you're making. That said...
Any program can be hacked. Any. The process with different types of systems will alter accordingly.
*Edited* for clarification
Servera EU Error:confused:
Got to a major arkfall with the single mother hellbug the other day before anyone showed up and pretty much one clipped it with a terrible OJ wolfhound/dmg spike/overcharge. Betting with a SB it would have been faster. I have not seen a cheater since months ago when hex edits were rampant; it's all strong weapons with spikes and overcharge that seems to be doing it.
to original post why would you hack to get into coop?what are the benefits?i have never seen evidence of hacking on xbox
Is there help for that? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by rebtattoo
Reckon I'd try. Sad state when an old hillbilly from the Ridge of Virginia is making spelling corrections!Quote:
Originally Posted by Amack
Virginia is a great state! What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by rebtattoo
Oh and Sam, don't run a spell check your machine may instantaneously combust.
Firefox has quite a nice spell checker, you do not want to read my posts till it's done.
I meant it's a sad state of affairs when an old hillbilly from the Ridge of Virginia {myself}, is making spelling corrections.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amack
Believe me, I agree! No better place than my home in the hills! Love Va., just can't handle her winters anymore!
This forum will at least let you know, while you're typing, if something is spelled wrong. Then, Google that Schako!Quote:
Originally Posted by Manstan
I know whatcha meant! rofl...Quote:
Originally Posted by rebtattoo
It's a sad state of affairs when you have to explain to someone what a sad state of affairs is, lmao... im dying.... im dying.
I would hate to have a man tell me I have a plethora of something if that man did not know what a plethora was...
I do wonder at some of these scores on the warmaster are hacks..
I keep forgetting to take the time to let you know ColapsN7 how much I really love your posts. They are so informative and particularly well written, and I hope to read many more in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by ColapsN7
A plethora. Love that word! And using the term "virtual cornucopia". :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Amack
Then please do explain why people are selling hacks that allow you to "coop bump" (google it) and "go-to anyone" (google it)?Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
I mean, if it can't be hacked, then these items shouldn't be for sale from well-known game cracking/hacking websites right?
The problem is, there are a LOT of items in Defiance that are client side. Your damage values are client side. Hit detection is client side (this is why you can be hit in PVP by someone at C while sitting on A).
There is so much I could say there. But to keep it short and simple; if it exists on the internet, it will never be foolproof. To say it can't be done is folly. If the will to want it is bad enough, someone will always find a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by samuelsinn
http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/k...impossibru.png
I would not like to think, that a person would tell someone that they have a plethora and find out that that person has no idea what it means to have a plethora.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebtattoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyBUMntP6DI