Defiance Rewatch

Starting next week I think we should participate in a Defiance Rewatch and discuss all of the episodes. Many people are complaining about the gap between season so this is a good way to get people interested again. I know that we still have some time before season 2 starts but its still a good idea.

I was thinking about doing one a week, watching on Monday and then starting a thread to discuss the episode and try to get a bit more out of it. We may notice things we never saw before or hints to the game that were missed.

BTW - Yes this is also a way to flood this forum with more positive threads.

Is this a Defiance marathon that is running on TV? or are we just watching the show at our leisure and commenting about it?

I will start in the sprit of the thread with a couple of positive points i think their is demand coming back for this game as i bought it in october for £5 in a game store and it's now selling for £10 in there so its doubled in value.I didt play for ages and i traded my copy in so when i got it again on a wim and had a play im happy to say that i think its really on the right track,I played last night for 10mins or so and had a good time its a great little time waster after a nights gaming.Now to the point of your thread the show i would be very interested to see how many people liked the show because in my opinon (and i stress my opinon) the 1st episode showed promise then it went straight down hill and i consider it to be a poor mans "falling sky" There was no real action or alien tech on display and the most rare of looks at the hell bugs which in the game are all over the place but in the series they had to go halfway to the centre of the earth to find them.Thats just a couple in a long list of faults sorry to end on a low point :(

Loved the show, can't wait for it's return, good work on a positive thread.

Count me in.

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Originally Posted by sly wolf

I will start in the sprit of the thread with a couple of positive points i think their is demand coming back for this game as i bought it in october for £5 in a game store and it's now selling for £10 in there so its doubled in value.I didt play for ages and i traded my copy in so when i got it again on a wim and had a play im happy to say that i think its really on the right track,I played last night for 10mins or so and had a good time its a great little time waster after a nights gaming.Now to the point of your thread the show i would be very interested to see how many people liked the show because in my opinon (and i stress my opinon) the 1st episode showed promise then it went straight down hill and i consider it to be a poor mans "falling sky" There was no real action or alien tech on display and the most rare of looks at the hell bugs which in the game are all over the place but in the series they had to go halfway to the centre of the earth to find them.Thats just a couple in a long list of faults sorry to end on a low point :(

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This is NOT a thread about the game. Please don't go off topic.

As for the hellbug thing, well that's because Hellbugs don't live in that area. The ones we saw had been led there.

Do you really want to get me started on this all too typical Syfy series?

I like the idea of what the op is proposing getting people interested in the series and compare notes on each episode in the runup to the new season

One question, where to watch it?

For me I had to use some real google fou, and set my comp on high alert, to find a copy of the pilot to watch. And I wont link to it, it's kind of a hot site; but a good copy ;)
I actually do not have cable or dish; my options were cable/dish or internet. My budget dose not allow for both; I love Hulu lol

@ESCYOS: I was just gonna make my point and leave it there but as you have called me on my points 1st you said you wanted to make a positive thread and as this is the GAME forum and i was making a positive comment about the GAME i dont see how it's off topic?? 2nd you say that the hell bugs dont live in that area....erm have you played the game?........... i will explain,the game world and the TV world are one in the same that was the big selling point on the game/programme tie in so if their are hell bugs in the game they should be their in the programme and also where are the vorge? and the minners? none of these have been seen in the series because as i have said before its a low budget "falling sky" i hope this has helped clear my points up but if not please feel free to ask

The game is in LA, the show is in ST.Louis. About, what 1400 miles apart?

And if you haven't seen the vorge you didn't see the pilot.

The '99ers are specifically a California group. Not sure about darkmatter.

Yes i did see the 2 hour pilot with the vorge and as i said in my 1st post i felt the pilot episode had promise but sadly it went down hill after the pilot,Syfy will not show a 3rd series if the poor ratings from the 1st session is refelcted in the 2nd thats just fact,as for the area's that point is useless because as i said the game/show is based around defiance hence the name so the show and the game should have the same level of aliens.To be honest if the people from the show pitched the idea to syfy and said " we wont be showing hellbugs or vorge or 99ers because they are from a diffrerent area then im sure syfy would of thrown them out.

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Originally Posted by sly wolf

@ESCYOS: I was just gonna make my point and leave it there but as you have called me on my points 1st you said you wanted to make a positive thread and as this is the GAME forum and i was making a positive comment about the GAME i dont see how it's off topic?? 2nd you say that the hell bugs dont live in that area....erm have you played the game?........... i will explain,the game world and the TV world are one in the same that was the big selling point on the game/programme tie in so if their are hell bugs in the game they should be their in the programme and also where are the vorge? and the minners? none of these have been seen in the series because as i have said before its a low budget "falling sky" i hope this has helped clear my points up but if not please feel free to ask

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This is NOT a game forum, it is a Defiance forum. As for the Hellbugs, they are like any other animal. Do you see bears in every area of the US? No, you don't. Also the Volge (Not Vorge) were in the first episode, they live underground in colonies and their reasons for visiting the Bay Area is to get arktech which is more abundant there than in Defiance. In Defiance they were hired/forced to attack. Also the 99ers were mentioned in the pilot episode as being in the area as well. And you call it low budget, you are aware that it is the biggest show that Syfy has ever done.

@Manstan - If you don't like the show, then don't post here. Fairly simple concept.

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Originally Posted by Escyos

This is NOT a game forum, it is a Defiance forum. As for the Hellbugs, they are like any other animal. Do you see bears in every area of the US? No, you don't. Also the Volge (Not Vorge) were in the first episode, they live underground in colonies and their reasons for visiting the Bay Area is to get arktech which is more abundant there than in Defiance. In Defiance they were hired/forced to attack. Also the 99ers were mentioned in the pilot episode as being in the area as well. And you call it low budget, you are aware that it is the biggest show that Syfy has ever done.

@Manstan - If you don't like the show, then don't post here. Fairly simple concept.

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This is the merged Xbox, PS3, and pc game forum found in the Trion "explore the game" section.

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Originally Posted by Bonehead

This is the merged Xbox, PS3, and pc game forum found in the Trion "explore the game" section.

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So I guess that is why its called GENERAL DISCUSSION. A forum described as "Your one-stop shop for all things Defiance".

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Originally Posted by Escyos

So I guess that is why its called GENERAL DISCUSSION. A forum described as "Your one-stop shop for all things Defiance".

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Precisely.

I think you are looking for this:

http://forums.syfy.com/index.php?&showforum=228

^forums for the show.

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Originally Posted by Escyos

This is NOT a game forum, it is a Defiance forum.
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Incorrect. This is for the game. Do you argue just for the sake of arguing or what?
There is a dedicated forum for the site as fuzzle posted.
You may post about the show on this forum but this forum is mainly for the game.
Though I can see how seeing "server status updates" "Bug reports" "patch notes" as the first section of the forum to make that distinction hard to make.

Okay so tomorrow is Monday (or Sunday, or Tuesday or however it works out) so we'll be starting with the Pilot episode. So basically you just watch the episode and then come here to be pointed to the Pilot discussion thread I'll create. We'll discuss all of the characters, critters and technology that show up and then look at how it intertwines with the game.

Please note that I will be reporting anyone who posts links to illegal download or viewing sites.

ESCYOS: I thought you said this thread was not about the game? Infact you told me and someone else not to bother posting here cos it was "off topic" how can you argue with people over the most basic of mistakes on your part and then go onto say your last comment? But putting that aside as i said in my 1st post i will be very interested to see how many people like the show.

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Originally Posted by sly wolf

ESCYOS: I thought you said this thread was not about the game? Infact you told me and someone else not to bother posting here cos it was "off topic" how can you argue with people over the most basic of mistakes on your part and then go onto say your last comment? But putting that aside as i said in my 1st post i will be very interested to see how many people like the show.

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Well because you were discussing game prices and how you liked it, while I was talking about crossover stuff.

This should prove fun because there is no legit sites that carries the pilot episode. And it certainly isn't on Syfy's schedule.
Both Hulu and the Syfy site only have the series from episode 7 up.
So just how are people supposed to watch this with out watching it on an illegal hosting site?

Well I can think of one http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movie...ml?searchidx=1 lol

More over if you want to talk about the show, click the left side http://www.defiance.com/en/

Alien terraforming technology is better than I thought, Was San Quentin moved to L.A.? Or, was L.A. Moved to SAN FRANCISCO?
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Originally Posted by lrf1964

Alien terraforming technology is better than I thought, Was San Quentin moved to L.A.? Or, was L.A. Moved to SAN FRANCISCO?
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That is just me being Midwestern, L.A is sort of generic for most of the California south coast, my bad :o

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Originally Posted by Manstan

The '99ers are specifically a California group.

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Not according to the show.

One thing I do like that they did recently is the Coldfire weapon that killed Luke McCawley was added to the game. But since this is a discussion about the show, as the first episode stands, was the best. Since then the other shows have kinda went downhill. I think they need to bring in the 99ers. They as well as the Raiders were made reference to in the show as to being in the area around Defiance. Rafe McCawley specifically made reference to the 99ers when he mentioned a cave-in that killed some of his men.

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Originally Posted by Ironhide

One thing I do like that they did recently is the Coldfire weapon that killed Luke McCawley was added to the game. But since this is a discussion about the show, as the first episode stands, was the best. Since then the other shows have kinda went downhill. I think they need to bring in the 99ers. They as well as the Raiders were made reference to in the show as to being in the area around Defiance. Rafe McCawley specifically made reference to the 99ers when he mentioned a cave-in that killed some of his men.

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I just watched the second episode last night. So I'm ignorant of most of the game/show correlations.
Which in my opinion is what this thread should be about. But so far I have enjoyed the time in game more then the time spent watching the show.
Haven't seen any 9/10 naked women in the game, the show on the other hand lol

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Originally Posted by Manstan

I just watched the second episode last night. So I'm ignorant of most of the game/show correlations.
Which in my opinion is what this thread should be about. But so far I have enjoyed the time in game more then the time spent watching the show.
Haven't seen any 9/10 naked women in the game, the show on the other hand lol

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Your not ignorant. They made mention of it real quick that if you weren't paying close attention you would not have caught it. I was the same way, I bought the season on dvd and just noticed those names were dropped when I went back and re-watched the season. Same with the coldfire Volge pistol that killed Luke. Of course that wasn't in game till dlc2 was released.

I just got the 1st season box set. I noticed an error in the game after watching the ep with Hellbugs. They said the only sensory organ they have is used for picking up smells. Even if I miss interpreted that they distinctly said that Hellbugs can not hear. So ether its an error in that one mission with the cyborg guy that can call hell bugs by screaming OR they are moded hell bugs by the Earth Military forces or EREP.

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Originally Posted by Punisher Illinois Blue

I just got the 1st season box set. I noticed an error in the game after watching the ep with Hellbugs. They said the only sensory organ they have is used for picking up smells. Even if I miss interpreted that they distinctly said that Hellbugs can not hear. So ether its an error in that one mission with the cyborg guy that can call hell bugs by screaming OR they are moded hell bugs by the Earth Military forces or EREP.

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I believe the lore is that they're sensitive to 'vibration'. Thats why they can pop up under your feet no matter how much you zig/zag-run. (Totally p!sses me off that they know where I'm going to randomly run while I'm running, and get there at the same time I do.)

So they can 'feel' a yell, while not actually 'hearing' it. I was always under the impression that your ears felt the vibration and turned it into hearing, but what do I know.

My opinion of the show.

Sets A+
Effects{enviromental} A
Makeup/costumes A+
Details A+
Special effects A-
Casting A
Story C-
Dialog D+
Plot C-
Directing C

Fun to watch but not something that will keep me on the edge of my seat waiting for the next episode.

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Originally Posted by Manstan

My opinion of the show.

Sets A+
Effects{enviromental} A
Makeup/costumes A+
Details A+
Special effects A-
Casting A
Story C-
Dialog D+
Plot C-
Directing C

Fun to watch but not something that will keep me on the edge of my seat waiting for the next episode.

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Loved the 1st half of the pilot.

2nd half?
meh.

Why did our hero blow the operation, start shooting at the wrong time, and get ppl killed if all he had to do was wait another minute and jumpstart the multi-bajillion scip secret weapon?

How did the dirtbike riding "Hell's Aliens Motorcycle Club" manage to get away without glowing in the dark for the next 12 years?

The reason I stopped watching is because they walked everywhere.
Nobody was in a hurry, nothing was important.

The episode where they went under StLo to the reactor to hunt down the badguy who sabotaged the gate?
walkwalkwalksittalksipwatertalktalkwalkwalk
Really?
You're chasing a badguy TO a nuke power plant, and you're sitting talking about the old family dogfood business while sipping water like it was vintage merlot?

The pilot episode, the original sheriff gets killed?
Nobody was in a hurry to do much but sit at the table and walk around.
It's not like there was much to do but wait for morning to see whether the body was still there or not...

Too casual for me. No sense of hanging on by fingernails trying to survive. No feeling of any need to do anything but just hang out and chill wit da posse....

Oh no! You didn't get the memo :eek:

We as viewers aren't supposed to be intelligent enough to see that or ask those sorts of questions. ;)

No I don't watch a lot of TV, and yes sometimes it is just because of the lead actress; Lousy liu.
I don't rate most shows on TV very well. I mean Defiance is in my top ten new shows to me, I'm sort of watching lol

And yes, I've seen a lot of new movies where the money could have been better spent. ;)

Yea that lowest common denominator deal is a b!tch.

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Originally Posted by crasher

I believe the lore is that they're sensitive to 'vibration'. Thats why they can pop up under your feet no matter how much you zig/zag-run. (Totally p!sses me off that they know where I'm going to randomly run while I'm running, and get there at the same time I do.)

So they can 'feel' a yell, while not actually 'hearing' it. I was always under the impression that your ears felt the vibration and turned it into hearing, but what do I know.

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The prob with that though is that in the ep the characters came down right next to the hell bug nest on a big industrial cargo/miner elevator. The nest was 10 feet away with nothing obstructing the bugs.

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Originally Posted by Punisher Illinois Blue

The prob with that though is that in the ep the characters came down right next to the hell bug nest on a big industrial cargo/miner elevator. The nest was 10 feet away with nothing obstructing the bugs.

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You're right, yeah, I remember that.

But the upside is we got to see them schmear bugshtako on themselves, if I remember correctly, so it evens out.

They make us play bugshtako, we watch them wear it.
Once you see that, you're supposed to suspend disbelief and let them slide on details, I guess.

I like the idea of a weekly rematch discussion thread series. The episode discussions here and over on the Defiance sub-Reddit during the original airing were some of my favorite threads. It's a shame that up until 2 days ago all of Season 1 was up on SyFy's website. IDK about any other cable providers but here TimeWarner has the whole season OnDemand if that helps anyone who's having trouble finding the episodes online.

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Originally Posted by crasher

You're right, yeah, I remember that.

But the upside is we got to see them schmear bugshtako on themselves, if I remember correctly, so it evens out.

They make us play bugshtako, we watch them wear it.
Once you see that, you're supposed to suspend disbelief and let them slide on details, I guess.

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That couldnt have been so bad it looked like caviar =] The other bright side is that they didnt run into Xenomorphs. I can just Imiagine the scene with Tar trying to swing his sword at two face huggers. They see he didnt come out of the house and they find the Hugger on his face. His son is like well it obvisously doesnt want to kill my Dad so lets put them in the bath for ritual cleansing. ;)

Head over to the Pilot discussion thread - http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...27#post1381427

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Originally Posted by Escyos

Head over to the Pilot discussion thread - http://forums.defiance.com/showthrea...27#post1381427

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Hey I don't have TV, just my computer and I sometimes watch DVDs on it, I was wondering if the season 1 DVD box we can buy does contain the pilot.

I only know of the game so far, been playing since about less than a couple weeks, i'm interrested in watching the show as well, but as my previous question : would like to know if pilot is in the DVD box as well or if I have to get it elsewhere.

Thanks !

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Originally Posted by Shoogli

Hey I don't have TV, just my computer and I sometimes watch DVDs on it, I was wondering if the season 1 DVD box we can buy does contain the pilot.

I only know of the game so far, been playing since about less than a couple weeks, i'm interrested in watching the show as well, but as my previous question : would like to know if pilot is in the DVD box as well or if I have to get it elsewhere.

Thanks !

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If you have netflix they have the discs. Disc one has the pilot.