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  • 01-28-2014, 04:46 PM
    Arsenic_Touch
    Did you forget to flip the switch or does this DLC have NO story content?
    Staring at the map, not a single new mission related to the 7th legion. Haven't seen an incursion since I signed on either.
  • 01-28-2014, 04:51 PM
    N3gativeCr33p
    Ruh oh.

    Lucy... you have some 'essplaining to do!
  • 01-28-2014, 04:55 PM
    Amack
    Arsenic is on the warpath! Everyone take cover!
  • 01-28-2014, 04:56 PM
    Arsenic_Touch
    Still waiting for patch notes as well so I know what changed and what didn't change.
  • 01-28-2014, 05:04 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Arsenic_Touch View Post
    Still waiting for patch notes as well so I know what changed and what didn't change.

    Lol. As if the patch notes would ever reveal all. History dictates this to not be true. Remember, the ninja isn't noticed until after it has passed!
  • 01-28-2014, 05:19 PM
    Overtkill21
    This is the question of the day - they turn on Alpha Servers today, and we still can't tell what is in the DLC?

    These patch notes should be good. I better get some adult diapers.

    LOL
  • 01-28-2014, 05:21 PM
    Sobelize
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rebtattoo View Post
    Lol. As if the patch notes would ever reveal all. History dictates this to not be true. Remember, the ninja isn't noticed until after it has passed!

    Ninja's? I thought we were dealing with Canadian Samurai from Manhattan...
  • 01-28-2014, 05:26 PM
    Amack
    Alright that does it then... all non-mentioned changes to the game shall be referred to as "Samurai-Changes" and not "Ninja-Changes".
  • 01-28-2014, 05:32 PM
    Sobelize
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amack View Post
    Alright that does it then... all non-mentioned changes to the game shall be referred to as "Samurai-Changes" and not "Ninja-Changes".

    Oh gods. We've spawned something hilarious, haven't we?
  • 01-28-2014, 05:53 PM
    Beck
    I'll have to go back and listen but I am pretty sure there was a commitment from Trick in an interview he did with someone that there was going to be a heavy story component to DLC 3. I could be wrong...
  • 01-28-2014, 05:54 PM
    Arsenic_Touch
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beck View Post
    I'll have to go back and listen but I am pretty sure there was a commitment from Trick in an interview he did with someone that there was going to be a heavy story component to DLC 3. I could be wrong...

    You are correct. They said that DLC 3 was going to heavy story side... I'm kind of at a loss for words here. I hope it's turned off for whatever reason (this will be the third time in a row) but if this is all we get then.... wow. Waiting for a response from dahanese.
  • 01-28-2014, 05:57 PM
    DanteYoda
    So no story, and just death marches.. yea not looking good tbh.

    Seems rather weird to have zero story when no one knows squat about these Canadian Samurai, and why they are here.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:03 PM
    Overtkill21
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beck View Post
    I'll have to go back and listen but I am pretty sure there was a commitment from Trick in an interview he did with someone that there was going to be a heavy story component to DLC 3. I could be wrong...

    No, you are not wrong. He said:

    "The DLC 3 storylines are much more lore focused. We're creating a new kind of content, of course, but we're also crafting some storyline experiences around it. There will be more tie-ins with the show coming with that update, and those will be released as appropriate. We don't gate crossover content to DLC purchases. Yes, that would make us money, but it would not be kind to the fans."

    However, I'd bet the newest blog post is as "lore focused" as you're going to get.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:11 PM
    hardy83
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Overtkill21 View Post
    No, you are not wrong. He said:

    "The DLC 3 storylines are much more lore focused. We're creating a new kind of content, of course, but we're also crafting some storyline experiences around it. There will be more tie-ins with the show coming with that update, and those will be released as appropriate. We don't gate crossover content to DLC purchases. Yes, that would make us money, but it would not be kind to the fans."

    However, I'd bet the newest blog post is as "lore focused" as you're going to get.

    If that's true, they are taking a page out of ArenaNets playbook.
    Put the lore on a website rather than the game. Lol
  • 01-28-2014, 06:18 PM
    DanteYoda
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hardy83 View Post
    If that's true, they are taking a page out of ArenaNets playbook.
    Put the lore on a website rather than the game. Lol

    Heh i dumped Arenanet for a reason..
  • 01-28-2014, 06:22 PM
    Beck
    If this is how they are disseminating lore, via a web site, then people might as well just keep listening to us. At least our content is consistent with out product.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:24 PM
    Amack
    I'm so very sorry everyone!
    I really am sorry about this... but...

    Trion!?! What the hell am I looking at?!?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=356faqb9JnU
  • 01-28-2014, 06:27 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amack View Post
    Alright that does it then... all non-mentioned changes to the game shall be referred to as "Samurai-Changes" and not "Ninja-Changes".

    I sand corrected. Samurai-changes with a side of bacon.

    Arsenic - Any news?
  • 01-28-2014, 06:31 PM
    Nefarious
    Well if DLC 3 is going to have heavy story line content wouldn't it make sense to not have it in the test server? The testers could play it and tell everyone what happens. Ruining surprises for everyone. And if this is the next big story line then it wouldn't be fair if testers got to play it and experience it before everyone else. And it also wouldn't be fair have test server players experience the new story on a Test Server of all things and not do so as their original character.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:32 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DanteYoda View Post
    So no story, and just death marches.. yea not looking good tbh.

    Seems rather weird to have zero story when no one knows squat about these Canadian Samurai, and why they are here.

    It's not like we know why the Volge are here, either, and we've had those a lot longer...
    'They just are' aint a reason, cuz that aint story.
    Thats just 'excuse'.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:32 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beck View Post
    If this is how they are disseminating lore, via a web site, then people might as well just keep listening to us. At least our content is consistent with out product.

    But, if I understood a certain rant from last week, you were pulling the plug on Defiance. Has this changed and will there still be Defiance related content on your e-station?
  • 01-28-2014, 06:33 PM
    Sobelize
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Well if DLC 3 is going to have heavy story line content wouldn't it make sense to not have it in the test server? The testers could play it and tell everyone what happens. Ruining surprises for everyone. And if this is the next big story line then it wouldn't be fair if testers got to play it and experience it before everyone else. And it also wouldn't be fair have test server players experience the new story on a Test Server of all things and not do so as their original character.

    All new content has always been available in the Alpha Server. That's the point of the Alpha Server. If it isn't available for testing in the Alpha Server, then it's going to launch with unexpected bugs.

    It'll launch with bugs regardless, but at least we'll know they're there.

    @rebtattoo - We're finishing up the radio drama storyline we've been working on. Once that is over, no more Defiance content. We've already pulled or edited most of our Defiance related commercials. We will be focusing more on Star Citizen and Pantheon: RotF.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:34 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Well if DLC 3 is going to have heavy story line content wouldn't it make sense to not have it in the test server? The testers could play it and tell everyone what happens. Ruining surprises for everyone. And if this is the next big story line then it wouldn't be fair if testers got to play it and experience it before everyone else. And it also wouldn't be fair have test server players experience the new story on a Test Server of all things and not do so as their original character.

    Hence, the reason communication is so vital. For situations just like this. However, we know that this isn't Trions strong suit, therefore the questions come out in a tidal wave.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:42 PM
    crasher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sobelize View Post
    All new content has always been available in the Alpha Server. That's the point of the Alpha Server. If it isn't available for testing in the Alpha Server, then it's going to launch with unexpected bugs.

    It'll launch with bugs regardless, but at least we'll know they're there.

    @rebtattoo - We're finishing up the radio drama storyline we've been working on. Once that is over, no more Defiance content. We've already pulled or edited most of our Defiance related commercials.

    Dimentia this weekend was hard to take.

    Her Raves were always the best.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:43 PM
    Warhorse500
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sobelize View Post
    Ninja's? I thought we were dealing with Canadian Samurai from Manhattan...

    Dude, ya gotta go all in on these descriptions...

    It's prepubescent mutant Canadian ninja samurai ronin from lower Manhattan...with bacon.

    :o:o:o
  • 01-28-2014, 06:44 PM
    Sobelize
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Warhorse500 View Post
    Dude, ya gotta go all in on these descriptions...

    It's prepubescent mutant Canadian ninja samurai ronin from lower Manhattan...with bacon.

    :o:o:o

    Prepubescent? I'm not sure where that one came from.
  • 01-28-2014, 06:55 PM
    Bonehead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sobelize View Post
    Oh gods. We've spawned something hilarious, haven't we?

    Somebody has to spawn something worthwhile around here.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:02 PM
    Amack
    Episode 6.28 - Just Prior To DLC3 Launch
    Episode 6.28 - Just Prior To DLC3 Launch

    Houston has lost all contact with Trion, who was previously in orbit somewhere around the planet Earth. They were drinking heavily, and doing cartwheels in 0 gravity while producing the online game Defiance. Everything seemed to be in order, when for some unknown reason Trion decided to go from the Gamma stage of Defiance directly into the Plaid version. As many of the Defiance players have learned and will now tell you, when you travel at the speed of Plaid no radio communication is possible.

    The last known communication came from some person named Tyrannos and he/she/it said that Houston's thread was going to be burned in the upper atmosphere, and that there was nothing Houston could do about it! Can you believe that ****?

    Houston will simply have to wait and see where in the universe Trion pops out of Plaid this time. Most likely, Houston will have to once again send out a team of Ark Hunters into the 4th dimension and rescue Trion from their own instancing algorithms.

    Until the next episode...
  • 01-28-2014, 07:05 PM
    Bonehead
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjbtZ4NgtdA
  • 01-28-2014, 07:05 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rebtattoo View Post
    But, if I understood a certain rant from last week, you were pulling the plug on Defiance. Has this changed and will there still be Defiance related content on your e-station?

    Yeah what of that thread 'K-TAM Is Done With Defiance'? Like there is no coming back from that thread. And all the stuff having insults and personal attacks at a certain mod because of some unrelated blog post. Not to mention multiple accounts along with just all kinds of craziness.

    Not for nothing but the K-Tam guys have gone off the deep end a few times and have said things along the lines of that Defiance is dead and its a sinking ship and forget about it and all that jazz. Its like for ppl who are so supportive of Defiance to the point they have a website based off of it with weekly pod cast content it sure seems like K-tam only sticks around hoping the worse will happen just so they can say "I told you so!".

    The Defiance community is crazy. There are ppl here who are basically unemployed workers for Trion who make fan made content or report bugs meticulously. But at the same time those same ppl like to take a screw driver and stick it into Trions kidney region and tell them how much they suck. Its the most radical scale of love-hate Ive ever seen towards anything.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:07 PM
    Bonehead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Yeah what of that thread 'K-TAM Is Done With Defiance?' Like there is no coming back from that thread. And all the stuff having insults and personal attacks at a certain mod because of some unrelated blog post. Not to mention multiple accounts along with just all kinds of craziness.

    Not for nothing but the K-Tam guys have gone off the deep end a few times and have said things along the lines of that Defiance is dead and its a sinking ship and forget about it and all that jazz. Its like for ppl who are so supportive of Defiance to the point they have a website based off of it with weekly pod cast content it sure seems like K-tam only sticks around hoping the worse will happen just so they can say "I told you so!".

    The Defiance community is crazy. There are ppl here who are basically unemployed workers for Trion who make fan made content or report bugs meticulously. But at the same time those same ppl like to take a screw driver and stick it into Trions kidney region and tell them how much they suck. Its the most radical scale of love-hate Ive ever seen towards anything.

    Always go for the liver.
    Bigger target and it bleeds more.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:08 PM
    Amack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    The Defiance community is crazy. There are ppl here who are basically unemployed workers for Trion who make fan made content or report bugs meticulously. But at the same time those same ppl like to take a screw driver and stick it into Trions kidney region and tell them how much they suck. Its the most radical scale of love-hate Ive ever seen towards anything.

    Looks around - I think Nef just called you guys crazy!
  • 01-28-2014, 07:09 PM
    Nefarious
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amack View Post
    Looks around - I think Nef just called you guys crazy!

    It takes crazy to recognize crazy.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:09 PM
    Bonehead
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amack View Post
    Looks around - I think Nef just called you guys crazy!

    Speaking for myself...
    he might be on to something.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:28 PM
    Sobelize
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bonehead View Post
    Speaking for myself...
    he might be on to something.

    The 'love' part of the relationship is not happening at the same time as the 'hate' part. It was a slow transition. Our radio content will no longer include Defiance related things.

    As far as still being somewhat active on the forums, that is a personal choice by each individual member. There are many users here that we have a good relationship with and like to talk to. If the house is burning down around us, and that's what the conversations ends up turning to, then that's just what's happening.
  • 01-28-2014, 07:53 PM
    Beck
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nefarious View Post
    Yeah what of that thread 'K-TAM Is Done With Defiance'? Like there is no coming back from that thread. And all the stuff having insults and personal attacks at a certain mod because of some unrelated blog post. Not to mention multiple accounts along with just all kinds of craziness.

    Not for nothing but the K-Tam guys have gone off the deep end a few times and have said things along the lines of that Defiance is dead and its a sinking ship and forget about it and all that jazz. Its like for ppl who are so supportive of Defiance to the point they have a website based off of it with weekly pod cast content it sure seems like K-tam only sticks around hoping the worse will happen just so they can say "I told you so!".

    The Defiance community is crazy. There are ppl here who are basically unemployed workers for Trion who make fan made content or report bugs meticulously. But at the same time those same ppl like to take a screw driver and stick it into Trions kidney region and tell them how much they suck. Its the most radical scale of love-hate Ive ever seen towards anything.

    The Radio won't be producing further Defiance content. I enjoy playing aspects of the game and I will remain a member of the community. Regardless of our other thoughts. We have said changes need to be made or the community will suffer. Look around. We have moved on as a radio. We don't do pod casts. we are still players who paid for the game like all of you and likely spent more than many buying at launch.

    We have been honest. Like it or not we haven't been fake or misleading in our programming. We back up our thoughts and never censor anyone who has been part of a show. We don't need a radio program to point out the flaws. It does make us an easy target.

    It is my opinion that there needs to be fundamental changes at Trion to get Defiance on track. Including some staff. At this point though even that might be too little too late.

    Call me crazy. It's my opinion and I made it. I don't expect people to agree but looking at the forums it's obvious that everyone else is slowly going crazy too.
  • 01-28-2014, 08:02 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Amack View Post
    Episode 6.28 - Just Prior To DLC3 Launch

    Houston has lost all contact with Trion, who was previously in orbit somewhere around the planet Earth. They were drinking heavily, and doing cartwheels in 0 gravity while producing the online game Defiance. Everything seemed to be in order, when for some unknown reason Trion decided to go from the Gamma stage of Defiance directly into the Plaid version. As many of the Defiance players have learned and will now tell you, when you travel at the speed of Plaid no radio communication is possible.

    The last known communication came from some person named Tyrannos and he/she/it said that Houston's thread was going to be burned in the upper atmosphere, and that there was nothing Houston could do about it! Can you believe that ****?

    Houston will simply have to wait and see where in the universe Trion pops out of Plaid this time. Most likely, Houston will have to once again send out a team of Ark Hunters into the 4th dimension and rescue Trion from their own instancing algorithms.

    Until the next episode...

    There's Amack! Missed ya bud.
  • 01-28-2014, 08:03 PM
    Bonehead
    Beck said;
    "Call me crazy. It's my opinion and I made it. I don't expect people to agree but looking at the forums it's obvious that everyone els is slowly going crazy too."



    Well not going really. Been there a while now...
    The view isn't bad really.
  • 01-28-2014, 08:10 PM
    Amack
    Just to clarify.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Beck View Post
    The Radio won't be producing further Defiance content. I enjoy playing aspects of the game and I will remain a member of the community. Regardless of our other thoughts. We have said changes need to be made or the community will suffer. Look around. We have moved on as a radio. We don't do pod casts. we are still players who paid for the game like all of you and likely spent more than many buying at launch.

    We have been honest. Like it or not we haven't been fake or misleading in our programming. We back up our thoughts and never censor anyone who has been part of a show. We don't need a radio program to point out the flaws. It does make us an easy target.

    It is my opinion that there needs to be fundamental changes at Trion to get Defiance on track. Including some staff. At this point though even that might be too little too late.

    Call me crazy. It's my opinion and I made it. I don't expect people to agree but looking at the forums it's obvious that everyone els is slowly going crazy too.

    I think what Beck is trying to say, is that they did not purposefully create a radio station based on an online game. Then, designed the content to be rather negative in scope. Next, stage a dramatic exit from the game and in doing so gain much needed listeners, players, people to drag away to a new game and try to hurt Defiance.

    They did not do that. Just to clarify.

    Sorry if I offend you with this, but I am not pleased with the outcome, not pleased at all.
    It could have been handled in much better ways, and for much better reasons.
  • 01-28-2014, 08:15 PM
    Umfafa
    I'll have to agree there. It could have been handled much better.

    Criticizing both sides, here.

    I went from a daily/semi daily listener...to someone that has no motivation to listen at all.

    Probably should have figured that in to the variables.

    (And now that I've seen DLC 3 and it's surprising lack of ANY content at all.....well, we can all see where this is heading, right?)
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