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  • 02-05-2014, 08:47 AM
    DragonForza
    The SS-2 is now so much better, glad I got a couple before the drop table broke, and glad someone traded me an orange one with good rolls.
  • 02-05-2014, 08:58 AM
    KylieDog
    How terible cannot just cloak and 1 hit kill people then recloak and 1 hit kil etc etc.

    That gun makes PVP even worse than it already was, quite an achievement.
  • 02-05-2014, 09:04 AM
    DragonForza
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    Originally Posted by KylieDog View Post
    How terible cannot just cloak and 1 hit kill people then recloak and 1 hit kil etc etc.

    That gun makes PVP even worse than it already was, quite an achievement.

    And what about the stupid shotguns?
  • 02-05-2014, 09:08 AM
    jschmuck33
    I agree with Kylie, PVP is horrible when people run around with surge bolters all the time. I like to think I do fairly well in PVP but with people cloaked with surge bolters it just gets annoying, it's as bad as people bunny hopping with infectors and/or rocket launchers.
  • 02-05-2014, 11:38 AM
    Deunan
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    Originally Posted by DSW View Post
    seems like they forgot to mention it, yet wrote about loot table fixes which didn't made it into live.

    There is nothing in the patch notes about the fix to the core game loot table. The only reason we know it was supposed to be in the update patch was because Trick said that it would be in one of the written answers to the forum livestream questions he provided to Elizabeth last Friday.
  • 02-05-2014, 11:55 AM
    bigguy
    it sucks that people only care about how a weapon affects pvp but then again that shows how some poeple are selfish, i wish they could make it so pvp had its own weapons
  • 02-05-2014, 11:59 AM
    DragonForza
    Also it seems people are biased, now you just run around with shotguns and infectors. But no one gives a damn about those.
  • 02-05-2014, 12:03 PM
    Deunan
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    Originally Posted by bigguy View Post
    it sucks that people only care about how a weapon affects pvp but then again that shows how some poeple are selfish, i wish they could make it so pvp had its own weapons

    The Surge Bolter was unbalanced and problematic across the board, not just in PVP. It allowed players to do things they never should have been able to do with a sniper rifle and it was undermining Volge Sieges as well as PVP.
  • 02-05-2014, 12:24 PM
    jschmuck33
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    Originally Posted by bigguy View Post
    it sucks that people only care about how a weapon affects pvp but then again that shows how some poeple are selfish, i wish they could make it so pvp had its own weapons

    Technically it's being selfish to use surge bolters in PVP/at sieges, by taking all the kills and leaving none for anyone else.

    Personally I care more about PVE than PVP but I also would like to complete all my pursuits which requires participation in PVP. I agree that PVP should have some sort of change to weapons that make surge bolters more for actual sniping rather than a long range shotgun. However, people will just switch to the next weapon (rocket launchers, infectors, sawed off + cloak), people in general are always going to take the easy way out instead of working for things.

    Personally I keep one surge bolter (from the thorn liro vendor) for a sort of sentimental reasons, but that's it. With how overpowered they are (were? haven't tried them since DLC) I always felt like I was cheating using one. Besides a good loadout can do better than a surge bolter in PVE (I use a legendary VBI AR and am usually one of the top players at arkfalls/sieges, it all depends on your play style/preference. The problem is just more prominent in PVP as you have people that normally would't do very well topping the charts because they don't actually have to try.

    Ultimately, this is an MMO game so people are not always going to think the same way you do. For PVP, I think it's pretty much a general consensus that surge bolters need to be nerfed a little. For PVE, it's a little more complicated.
  • 02-05-2014, 01:13 PM
    Nefarious
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    Originally Posted by JEMINAI View Post
    was just getting my PVP on b4 restart...
    i found that my ye olde surge bolter wont reset its charge once it expires.... basically i have to roll or swap weapon to avoid it firing and giving away my position.

    Just hit chat real quick to cancel it. No rolling or swapping needed.
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