surge bolters nerfed again?

My issue isn't the nerf of the weapon in itself because I could care less about surge bolters.

The real issue is the companies way of doing it. Ninja nerfs are never bueno! Alas, this is the trend with this particular game.

Samurai-Nerfs?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Deunan

The Surge Bolter was unbalanced and problematic across the board, not just in PVP. It allowed players to do things they never should have been able to do with a sniper rifle and it was undermining Volge Sieges as well as PVP.

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see I'm not QQ'n because they are made less effective but as they are now they are likely to get you killed more than kill anyone else.
I'm all for making them weaker... they can't just drop the Dmg????
instead they have to make them utterly useless.
I'd prefer they just remove them all together. I'll trade mine for fluffy dice for my car happily.

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Originally Posted by jschmuck33

Technically it's being selfish to use surge bolters in PVP/at sieges, by taking all the kills and leaving none for anyone else.

Personally I care more about PVE than PVP but I also would like to complete all my pursuits which requires participation in PVP. I agree that PVP should have some sort of change to weapons that make surge bolters more for actual sniping rather than a long range shotgun. However, people will just switch to the next weapon (rocket launchers, infectors, sawed off + cloak), people in general are always going to take the easy way out instead of working for things.

Personally I keep one surge bolter (from the thorn liro vendor) for a sort of sentimental reasons, but that's it. With how overpowered they are (were? haven't tried them since DLC) I always felt like I was cheating using one. Besides a good loadout can do better than a surge bolter in PVE (I use a legendary VBI AR and am usually one of the top players at arkfalls/sieges, it all depends on your play style/preference. The problem is just more prominent in PVP as you have people that normally would't do very well topping the charts because they don't actually have to try.

Ultimately, this is an MMO game so people are not always going to think the same way you do. For PVP, I think it's pretty much a general consensus that surge bolters need to be nerfed a little. For PVE, it's a little more complicated.

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I couldn't agree more.
I switched to the original bolters a while back. though I get slightly less kills, I do just fine.
I had this SB equipped because I was leveling it B4 Freight yard started. it just sucks to have to discover the mechanics of a weapon have been changed when you are trying to avoid raining detonator blasts.
again they may as well just remove this weapon.
but I think we all know that it will just be another weapon that appears unbalanced again.
hell I still get shotgun blasted in the butt by ghosts.

surge bolter still OP for shadow war.... hahhahahha

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Originally Posted by Magick

surge bolter still OP for shadow war.... hahhahahha

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Yep. Because they didn't do anything to the base damage. They can still hit between 6000 to 7000 DMG per shot without any critical hits, perks, or EGO. Assuming all pellets hit which isn't hard to do.

For sure the Surge Bolter is strong but it still needs to be charged for it. It could be argued to do less dmg but by how much? Is it going to get to the point where it barely kills a player on a full charged shot? Whats the difference then, a 1 shot kill is still a OSK. Or almost on a full charge? If its almost then forget about it, other snipers then can kill in 2-3 hits faster then. Whats the use of using the Surge Bolter if the full charge power has no real benefit?

Of course the charge could be a tad bit longer considering its power and it being hip fire accurate has to go. Its a sniper rifle, not a shotgun. All in all I say its DMG as is stays and make it longer to charge and less accurate from the hip.