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  • 02-18-2014, 07:57 AM
    Deunan
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    Originally Posted by BlaqWolf View Post
    Why? I didn't do any damage. It's not about the 'score' it's about the damage, and that's not being shown to you.

    It's not about damage. It is about score. I've gotten Tier 10 scores many times with only BMG heal assists and have a few orange items to show for it.
  • 02-18-2014, 08:02 AM
    drackiller
    I scored T10 lots of times and got nothing to prove it. NOTHING.
    Were is the logic in that if not pure random !?
    Get of your shining and bright altars.
  • 02-18-2014, 09:00 AM
    DSW
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BifBologna View Post
    As a mediocre player who's most likely one of the intended beneficiaries of your good intentions, aren't you potentially harming me at the same time? If all the top players back off as they hit their top tier score couldn't that affect the total number of stages completed for the event? Fewer stages would mean a smaller overall damage pool wouldn't it? I have no idea where the break-even point would be but it seems to me that if the top guys stayed on task the entire group would benefit from the increased damage pool available from the increased number of stages completed, even if it's only one or two.

    well, top tier players are top tier because they don't leave survivors. so we actually need to see will it do good or bad. though as i stated before, it won't work with incursions.
  • 02-18-2014, 10:41 AM
    jackdaws_1999
    Ok I am clearly going to have to put alittle more information into the community that I thought was common knowledge.

    Damage at incursions does not affect the guns you get.

    The score you get at the siege at the end of the incursion does affect what guns you get.

    I have been at the mount tam incursion and scored on the leaderboard over 3 mil damage, nearest person to me got 2.5, then 2, then 1.9. My wife scored only 16k damage. I scored 18k at the siege part then had to go get the phone, she scored 35k through healing alone. I got 2 blues, she got an OJ Infector and a blue saw.

    If you do more damage than anyone else, but fail to score a kill at the siege part of the incursion and end up with less than the teir 10 required score (had it been a straight seige rather than an Incursion siege), you will still recieve scrap all.

    If you manage to get the kills, but do little damage, you wont appear at the top of the leaderboard (as the end board is damage based) at the end of the incursion, but if you achieved a t10 score, then you get a good chance at an OJ gun.

    Kenn farms is a strange one, since you get a 5000 score for each heal assisted hulker kill.

    Now at a straight seige, it is better to kill and kill lots, then switch to healing to allow others to get the kills (dependant on amount of people at the siege).

    At the incursion seige at Kenn farms it seems better to use a BMG for the heal assists, since the likelyhood of landing the kills on things is sooooo very much smaller.

    At the Kenn farms incursion seige its actually opposite to usual seige and incursion etiquette;
    once you reach top teir, you are helping the vast majority of people by killing, and killing lots.

    Its best to go off to where ever there is a hole in the defences and start plugging up the gap (killing the afflicted as they spawn). Only do this once you get to t10, as there will be some who start with damage and stick with it, therefore giving them a greater chance early on (while you sponge the score from their bullets).

    So again I say, top teir players like myself and others (you know who you are), should adjust their gameplay to best enable the community as a whole to score teir 10s as well.

    Once I hit teir 10, dependant on the situation (if there is nobody there at all, I just carry on), I either stop shooting bullets, and start keeping folks alive. Unless its kenn farm incursion, then I switch to high damage on dead areas so as to make waves pass quicker.

    This should be the adopted mantra for all big hitters, at least until trion "fix" this as well, if we want to improve the pool of OJs.
  • 02-18-2014, 10:49 AM
    dramaQkarri
    What's irking me most about the incursions is the fact that since Trion again screwed up getting it into the PS store with a ridiculous 2-week delay -- everyone who has DLC on PS3 is already doing them -- Lucky Kitties running around all over the place. And here I thought they were fools for getting the season pass...

    DLC 3 is supposed to be in the store today, so when I get home I have to update game and then pound incursions to get them done QUICK!! -- before the whole PS3 community loses interest. I know I'm not the only one but it sucks.

    I really think someone important at Sony must hate someone important at Trion.

    Just sayin'.
  • 02-18-2014, 11:02 AM
    Quebra Regra
    DOH! I had no idea that there was a max limit by area for a tier 10 reward. Sorry folks, I'll lay off once I cap from now on.
  • 02-18-2014, 11:29 AM
    Chevota
    Etiquette... lol...

    How well calls of etiquette worked with Arkfalls...
    How well calls of etiquette worked with Sieges...
    How well calls of etiquette worked with Arkbreaks...
    How well calls of etiquette wont work with Incursions...

    How well etiquette will ONLY work with Arenas (Simply because you get to CHOOSE the 3 people you co-op with.) At some point, if we get to do Arkbreaks as a CLAN, we'll have etiquette.

    We all wanted a Cluster y'know of a game, and we got it. Free-For-All, the way it should be...

    There is NO ETIQUETTE. I get mine, if you dont get yours, too bad.


    P.S. ~ Some of us do show this "etiquette", but the fact is, the trolls are always out there, getting as much score as possible for no reason. Cap the reward without capping accumulative score = the Trolls win... Its a very simple fix, once Tier-10 is achieved, you no longer get points. Blame Trion, not the over-achievers of non-reward bonus scores.
  • 02-18-2014, 01:52 PM
    Market
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Astropath View Post
    Doesn't being on top of the list increase your loot chance? I got a few OJs from volge sieges, but it was only the case when I was on or near the top.

    No, beyond reaching the Tier requirements, score has no bearing on quality of rewards. Everyone gets a box at the end of the event and that box is subject to the RNG. Placing first on a Leaderboard has zero effect on what comes from that box. As stated in the OP, reaching the highest Tier reward does give you a shot at a Legendary, but the chances of getting one are not made better by reaching a higher score than everyone else.

    I've taken 1st at many Sieges (getting a score high enough for the best reward box) and only obtained blues or purples. I've also taken 9th place at a Dark Matter Ark Fall and was given an orange reward. Trick has verified a few times that score has no bearing on quality of reward, though the way many people play the game, it doesn't seem that well known. ;)
  • 02-18-2014, 02:04 PM
    rebtattoo
    Stole this from myself in another thread with similar topic. I did this last night after reading this thread.

    So, I'm at a Volge siege last night and around the 7 minute mark, notice I have my 40k. Being at mutant District, I go to the top of one of the arches that are abundant in that area to survey the action.

    Not wanting to "steal" any of the kills, I would shoot until the health was almost gone and let whoever else was shooting get the kill.

    Mind you, I could have easily doubled my own score. When the scoreboard popped, the only 3 ppl to score over 40k were me and my two clan mates. The other dozen or so ppl didn't even break 30k.

    *Added*

    This is not a solitary incident. It actually happens quite often. It's amazing how many people there don't give a **** about score anymore. They a there because they want to level weapons or whatever.

    We had a discussion about this when the Tier Score change was announced. We even layed back, not doing any more damage after 40k.

    We surmised, if you can't get 40k, aim better or get better weapons. Quite simple.
  • 02-18-2014, 02:13 PM
    rebtattoo
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chevota View Post
    *snip*
    P.S. ~ Some of us do show this "etiquette", but the fact is, the trolls are always out there, getting as much score as possible for no reason. Cap the reward without capping accumulative score = the Trolls win... Its a very simple fix, once Tier-10 is achieved, you no longer get points. Blame Trion, not the over-achievers of non-reward bonus scores.

    Or, in game competitions. There are several on the PS3 NA server currently competing.
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