Drop Rates of Legendaries

I'm puzzled... :confused:

Once upon a time, not too long ago, i managed to grab a good 4-5 Legendary weapons a week. Some in supply boxes others during mainly Incursions and Sieges. Although not every Legendary is usefull, it's always a joy to see such a reward pop up. Even if it ends up being given away to a clanmate that does use it. This had definitely been nerfed. The droprate is way lower and i am happy to 1 or 2 pop up. I'm at a point in the game where the Legendary reward is kinda like the only reward that really matters. I'm not saying i need 10 each week, that would take the joy away as it would become 'common'. But nerfing it the other way around makes playing the game, uhm... unrewarding.

But that's not all, that's not what's puzzling me!

Last week i played a good 15 Volge Sieges. I love the new score-system and figured out how to top the leaderboards. All Sieges ended with a top 5 ranking, half of them even at first place. All of them comfortably over 30k points (Tier 10 being 20k requirement). No Legendaries.

I played a good 10 Afflicted incursions, all way above the 27k requirement. Most even exceeding 150k scorepoints. No Legendaries.

Did about 10 major Arkfalls, good rankings. No Legendaries.

Now.. I hate the Warmaster! I only go in on special occassions, or an urgent invite from a friend. But most likely though, i'll skip it as i find it too bugged. Too big of a risk to be kicked of the server, and even if you make it in there are too many stupids that break the locks too early. Last week i did one, just one. And because i don't like it, i didn't adjust my load-out. Finished 21th out of the 21 people present, died 6 times, 4 extracts and at the end the WM got away leaving the event 'unfinished'. Guess what! You give me a Legendary Frontier Battle Rifle (AR) with Radiation Nano! Awesome!! But uhm... Wouldn't that be a better reward at one of my Sieges or Incursions? Is there any logic in who gets the Legendary rewards and who doesn't? I asked the #1 player of that WM what he got... You probably guessed it... Some purple thing that went into salvage straight away.

The 2nd Legendary i got this week came from a supply crate, not counting that as reward at an event since i've been grinding my azz of for that.

Could anyone explain what i'm missing and what's the trick? I seem to miss the logic in things and would love to know!

Stop whining. Buy yourself a higher mathematics textbook. Read about the theory of probability.

You could also choose not to reply if you don't have anything constructive to say m8. Sadly not every man on earth is born with some basic intelligence right?

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Originally Posted by Riz

I'm puzzled... :confused:

Once upon a time, not too long ago, i managed to grab a good 4-5 Legendary weapons a week. Some in supply boxes others during mainly Incursions and Sieges. Although not every Legendary is usefull, it's always a joy to see such a reward pop up. Even if it ends up being given away to a clanmate that does use it. This had definitely been nerfed. The droprate is way lower and i am happy to 1 or 2 pop up. I'm at a point in the game where the Legendary reward is kinda like the only reward that really matters. I'm not saying i need 10 each week, that would take the joy away as it would become 'common'. But nerfing it the other way around makes playing the game, uhm... unrewarding.

But that's not all, that's not what's puzzling me!

Last week i played a good 15 Volge Sieges. I love the new score-system and figured out how to top the leaderboards. All Sieges ended with a top 5 ranking, half of them even at first place. All of them comfortably over 30k points (Tier 10 being 20k requirement). No Legendaries.

I played a good 10 Afflicted incursions, all way above the 27k requirement. Most even exceeding 150k scorepoints. No Legendaries.

Did about 10 major Arkfalls, good rankings. No Legendaries.

Now.. I hate the Warmaster! I only go in on special occassions, or an urgent invite from a friend. But most likely though, i'll skip it as i find it too bugged. Too big of a risk to be kicked of the server, and even if you make it in there are too many stupids that break the locks too early. Last week i did one, just one. And because i don't like it, i didn't adjust my load-out. Finished 21th out of the 21 people present, died 6 times, 4 extracts and at the end the WM got away leaving the event 'unfinished'. Guess what! You give me a Legendary Frontier Battle Rifle (AR) with Radiation Nano! Awesome!! But uhm... Wouldn't that be a better reward at one of my Sieges or Incursions? Is there any logic in who gets the Legendary rewards and who doesn't? I asked the #1 player of that WM what he got... You probably guessed it... Some purple thing that went into salvage straight away.

The 2nd Legendary i got this week came from a supply crate, not counting that as reward at an event since i've been grinding my azz of for that.

Could anyone explain what i'm missing and what's the trick? I seem to miss the logic in things and would love to know!

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I don't think that's correct. The OJ Frontier Battle Rifle probably came from a supply crate. I don't think the WM dishes out faction weapons, or oranges when he's not defeated.

They did nerf the OJ rate from sieges about a week ago. I haven't seen any since, but the original rate was pretty low until they borked it up not too long ago.

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Originally Posted by Riz

Could anyone explain what i'm missing and what's the trick? I seem to miss the logic in things and would love to know!

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There's no trick to it. The apparent way random number generation works in this game is to apply it over the entire player population rather than player by player. The way probabilities work in general is that percentage chance to drop trues up as the number of rolls increases, so if the percentage chance reconciled at 10,000 loot drops for the Warmaster that would mean that 600 of them would drop a Legendary Arkbreaker weapon.

The thing to bear in mind however is that those 600 drops could be allocated among the players that incurred them in any number of ways which is why zero of them might end up going to a player that's been in successful kill groups 60 times and 4 of them could end up in the inventory of a player who has only been in 20 successful kill groups. This is why there are players that never receive a single Legendary drop until they are past an EGO rating of 2500 or greater and there are others that receive over dozen before they break EGO rating 1000. It also means you can have an awfully long dry run in terms of getting Legendaries.

I have had runs of dozens of Volge Sieges without a single legendary drop for me and in general I simply don't get them even though I break Tier 10 around 90 plus percent of the time I do Volge Sieges. My drop rate for all the Dark Matter Arkfalls have been pretty bad with less than a half dozen orange drops. On the other hand, so far this week I've received 5 Legendary drops from various sources. It's simply luck of the draw.

You're right the Rifle came from the supply crate, the BMG from the WM. Sowwy lol. However, i did got it at an unfinished WM event.

I agree, the drop rate is lacking. More so for the average gamer. I am at best an average gamer and play for rewards. This game is lacking in the ability to retain the average gamer and convince them to continue spending money. I ma not the person that could hope for the number one place in any pursuit/ incursion/ Ark fall/ arena. The standards for GOLD in some arena's are unachievable for the average or below average gamer to the point of placing the game on the shelf or reselling it to Game Stop and move on to something more rewarding. I recently tried the gunslinger arena's and very disappointing in the set up and goal requirements and the rewards are not even worth a replay. 101 Keys is a prime example, The best I can achieve is bronze and X3 multiplier while the reward is basically nothing. It is not worth trying to get gold. So yeah I agree with the horrific drop rate of better weapons and the lack of rewards for anything.

Yeah, ive been pretty let down, have not got a legendary since the gunslinger dlc came out....not 1, easily 50+ boxes, tons of incursions/sieges, warmasters, dark falls, and heck even those 7th legion and gunslinger caches that supposedly had the drop rates increased! Almost every time, its all blues, even the aformentioned dlc rep boxes, from those ive gotten all blue items and 6 hats....wtf am i gonna do with 6 hats. So thats $20 for 6 hats and about 42 blue items, great way to let me get my hands on those new weapons i paid to use, so glad i made those purchases. The hurtful thing is that i have friends that pull legendarys from these boxes almost every time, it makes me sick to my stomach to grind so hard to get a few blues to salvage and hats that i wont wear. Ive pretty much had to buy every legendary i use. Longer chase? yes. More satisfying? no.

After latest dlc you know server lagfest dlc they ninja nerfed oj drops from all sources
before dlc you can run 5 incursions get neded points and got 3 oj from 5 incursions no problems
now i got 0 ojs from boxes and sieges and incursions all this hapened after dlc launch
but now you can buy oj bmg in shop for 50$ thats why they nerfed all oj drops so all can go and buy
so 1 month already without ojs for mee and im hardcore grinder